if trump leaves nato..

[De Hollandse Ezel]

-> trump is insane but lets say he gets reelected. and does the unthinable : usa leaves nato.

what would be the fallout.. would russia attack the baltics if nato losts it's strongest member?
and could the rest of nato even defeat russia?
->
provided europe could... would russia start using it's nukes.. knowing that europe has few nukes (only france and uk have a few).. and without usa nukes.. it has thousands of nukes vs europes only a handfull..

[Hobbit XIII]

Col. W. T. Philmore původně napsal:

Sherasonni původně napsal:

If we abandon and lose our allies, then we'll realize how much we need them. Meanwhile, the countries on the other side cooperate and supply each other.

They are not ur allies, they are ur vassals, and u already sucked em dry, so it is safe and even benefical for u to drop em already.
Countries on the other side work in different way.

Hobbit XIII původně napsal:

don't include me in your sick justification.

Why not if u include us in ur sick propaganda?

I do not do propaganda as can be seen by my comment history.

As I said before did Ukraine have a bad case of termites?
Or was it part of Russian military doctrine to target civilians specifically in war as can be seen with its fire bombing in Syria.

-I will not respond to you further.

[Spirit]

i'm sure poland alone could go 1v1 with russia and win as russia has been weakened a lot by ukraine.

russia is not super strong but they also have allies

[DrummerJacob]

De Hollandse Ezel původně napsal:

-> trump is insane but lets say he gets reelected. and does the unthinable : usa leaves nato.

what would be the fallout.. would russia attack the baltics if nato losts it's strongest member?
and could the rest of nato even defeat russia?
->
provided europe could... would russia start using it's nukes.. knowing that europe has few nukes (only france and uk have a few).. and without usa nukes.. it has thousands of nukes vs europes only a handfull..

Hes not really insane at all, youre just out of touch, and thats your issue, not his, which is also why hes on your mind all the time and you have extreme views of someone you probably never heard speak for more than a MSM news clip length of time.

[Pieshaman]

even if usa leaves nato, then nato is still a pretty strong alliance of 30 countries.
but trump only says stuff like that cause it gives his dumb followers a boner.

Behelit původně napsal:

i'm sure poland alone could go 1v1 with russia and win as russia has been weakened a lot by ukraine.

russia is not super strong but they also have allies

im sure they can take at least belarus in 3 days with the army they have now. well, in summer at least. now is quite muddy xd

[Ice Scream]

Plaid původně napsal:

Hobbit XIII původně napsal:

Against all sense and reasoning I will answer this.

Russia targets civilians specifically.
It is part of Russian warfare.

You think Ukraine had a bad case of termites?

If you want to see what targeting civilians looks like, look to Ukraine bombing their own civilians for the last 10 years. Or look at what Israel is doing to Palestinians.
You really are overexposed to U.S. propaganda, as ПЕPНЯШ stated, but this was already obvious.

spreading putler propaganda. How much did they paid for this?

[𝑨𝒎𝒂𝒛𝒐𝒏𝒂 ~]

Trump is love, Trump is life.

[Sigma957]

No one needs NATO except the bankers.

[Sigma957]

Hobbit XIII původně napsal:

Col. W. T. Philmore původně napsal:

They are not ur allies, they are ur vassals, and u already sucked em dry, so it is safe and even benefical for u to drop em already.
Countries on the other side work in different way.

Why not if u include us in ur sick propaganda?

I do not do propaganda as can be seen by my comment history.

As I said before did Ukraine have a bad case of termites?
Or was it part of Russian military doctrine to target civilians specifically in war as can be seen with its fire bombing in Syria.

-I will not respond to you further.

Talk about propaganda. Russia targeting civilians is such a b/s story. You probably fell for all the ARMA 3 footage passed off as Ukraine war footage as well. Slap yourself.

The only civilians being targeted are by USA Corp are the civilians in Donbas region. Being killed by HIMARs you helped fund. Nice job propagandist.

[Hobbit XIII]

Sigma957 původně napsal:

Hobbit XIII původně napsal:

I do not do propaganda as can be seen by my comment history.

As I said before did Ukraine have a bad case of termites?
Or was it part of Russian military doctrine to target civilians specifically in war as can be seen with its fire bombing in Syria.

-I will not respond to you further.

Talk about propaganda. Russia targeting civilians is such a b/s story. You probably fell for all the ARMA 3 footage passed off as Ukraine war footage as well. Slap yourself.

The only civilians being targeted are by USA Corp are the civilians in Donbas region. Being killed by HIMARs you helped fund. Nice job propagandist.

Well I'll be going over there later this year I'll be sure to pass your thoughts onto the people who got bombed the ♥♥♥♥ out of in hospital.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Why the hell would Donald Trump pull out of NATO? where did you even get this idea in your head?

[vkobe]

Hobbit XIII původně napsal:

vkobe původně napsal:

maybe because putin thought he could take ukraine intact instead to use the hammer at beginning and also i alway thought it was stupid idea to launch attack at 24 february when spring coming, the guy thought he could take ukraine in 2weeks

if he planned more seriously his war, i say ukraine would be in harder difficulty, for me first june or first december were better time, because not Rasputitsa

look the geography you expect india do what with himalaya ? and with pakistan in their back ?

ok so mostly japan, south and taiwan against china

it is why ukraine and western politician complaint they are unable to produce one million 155 mm shell

i dont deny iran going to suffer, but the scenario is usa stay away nato, it could mean 2 things, usa withdraw world affair and dont care anymore about middle east or usa are busy in their major war against china to defend taiwan

except ukraine war show you also need cheap quantity to win a war, it is what west lack reliable cheap quantity production

obviously you didnt read OP, the subject it is not an alliance eurasia vs west in a full war, but a limited war russia invade baltic state and usa withdraw nato

Most of what I say is in response to what you were stating / asking.

and I am beyond bored of answering you.

so dont answer me

[Soft Wumbo]

the usa is nato itself

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Wumbo ✔ původně napsal:

the usa is nato itself

To be fair....not entirely. It's mostly about staging locations and basis. The U.S can take russia 1v1....if they have basis and supply lines to get there from both sides. From sea we're mostly good, from land...well unless some allies naitons offer to let us land and gather in their basis, that gets difficult.

[Voroff]

videomike_Ultimate_Plushie původně napsal:

Wumbo ✔ původně napsal:

the usa is nato itself

To be fair....not entirely. It's mostly about staging locations and basis. The U.S can take russia 1v1....if they have basis and supply lines to get there from both sides. From sea we're mostly good, from land...well unless some allies naitons offer to let us land and gather in their basis, that gets difficult.

Hahahahahaha. No, alone the US is not able to do that.
Crush the russian army and infrastructure ? Yes. Take russia ? Nope, not a chance. If the US try to invade russia, every fu****g citizen will happily transform into a suicide bomber with 80ish years of (arguably) justifiable griefs fuelled by propaganda, a good recette for something fiercely rabid real fast. Afghanistan and the vietnam will be remembered as vivifiying strolls in comparison.

For quick reminder, the USA have won exactly ONE war without allies. It was the civil war. So, the US alone ? Nah.
Anyway, "the average american" is bad at basic geography. Find a way to fry their GPS and they will not be able to find their way out a wet paper bag - proven.

[MEGA MAN]

would love to chill with trump from time to time, he seems like a super based funny cool chad and i just like him