Is it normal to have no ambition in life ?

[ian]

I was really unsure about posting this but I needed some opinion's besides that of my family.

I honestly don’t know what do in my life I’m 24 and going to be 25 in august, I’ve done lots of work experience but have never had a proper job and I think the reason why is that I have no direction in life but my Mum says this is normal what do you think ?

[Tux]

SLanted Edge eredeti hozzászólása:

in your story with the office manager, I'm sure its cute now, but when the office manager and the lawyers are both 45yr old...you see a staggering difference. Lawyer will still have that nice car, nice house, work less hours, easy wife, and take his family on 10-20k vacations a few times a year.

Office manager will still have a modest home, honda accord, wife that may work entirely too hard, and take trips that are just close by. If the office manger didn't make some good investment decisions he'll just forever be on the grind. While those high priced overworked lawyers have a chance at something more.

I have tried multiple times (uber life and simple life) an each time the simple life has been more satisfying for me

[Spiffer]

Nah, just means you'll be a YouTuber or a Uber Driver.

[Mr. Shaggnificent]

Tux eredeti hozzászólása:

SLanted Edge eredeti hozzászólása:

in your story with the office manager, I'm sure its cute now, but when the office manager and the lawyers are both 45yr old...you see a staggering difference. Lawyer will still have that nice car, nice house, work less hours, easy wife, and take his family on 10-20k vacations a few times a year.

Office manager will still have a modest home, honda accord, wife that may work entirely too hard, and take trips that are just close by. If the office manger didn't make some good investment decisions he'll just forever be on the grind. While those high priced overworked lawyers have a chance at something more.

I have tried multiple times (uber life and simple life) an each time the simple life has been more satisfying for me

I found the type of people you interact with socially in those two are quite different too. The "upper class" ones were often kind of scummy, while the "lower class" ones were much more sincere.

In my youth I was pretty much in the middle, so I was able to move between them fairly easily. The "rich" kids were often very stingy and selfish, while the "poor" kids were much more generous. I first noticed this when I went to two parties in one weekend durring my late teens. At the "rich" kid party it was BYOB, and they were very strict about it. At the "poor" kid party it was bring what you can and we'll all share. Guess which ones I'm still friends with 20yrs later.

[Tux]

Mr.Shaggnificent eredeti hozzászólása:

Tux eredeti hozzászólása:

I have tried multiple times (uber life and simple life) an each time the simple life has been more satisfying for me

I found the type of people you interact with socially in those two are quite different too. The "upper class" ones were often kind of scummy, while the "lower class" ones were much more sincere.

In my youth I was pretty much in the middle, so I was able to move between them fairly easily. The "rich" kids were often very stingy and selfish, while the "poor" kids were much more generous. I first noticed this when I went to two parties in one weekend durring my late teens. At the "rich" kid party it was BYOB, and they were very strict about it. At the "poor" kid party it was bring what you can and we'll all share. Guess which ones I'm still friends with 20yrs later.

same here exactly. similar background which is why I had a good view of both lifestyles. The ubers are far to judgmental for me and to be flat out blunt dont have as much fun.

[SLanted Edge]

Mr.Shaggnificent eredeti hozzászólása:

SLanted Edge eredeti hozzászólása:

in your story with the office manager, I'm sure its cute now, but when the office manager and the lawyers are both 45yr old...you see a staggering difference. Lawyer will still have that nice car, nice house, work less hours, easy wife, and take his family on 10-20k vacations a few times a year.

Office manager will still have a modest home, honda accord, wife that may work entirely too hard, and take trips that are just close by. If the office manger didn't make some good investment decisions he'll just forever be on the grind. While those high priced overworked lawyers have a chance at something more.

Or that lawyer is twice divorced with much more paid in alimony than what he keeps, and worthless scumbag entitled brats for kids who hate him because he was never around when they were growing up.

And the office manager lives in his modest home with the same wife(who approaches working in the same way), and has kids who love and respect him and are decent human beings who contribute to society.

Hypotheticals are fun.

Hypotheticals are fun, but mine are more likely to happen. Divorce rates in America are roughly 50%, while high priced lawyers and other 1% people do not make up 50% of the population so its safe to say that office managers are getting divorced at the same rate.

Are you arguing all lawyers have kids that hate them? While the lawyer might have missed a lot of big events in the younger years, he has the financial freedom to provide for his family. Can the office manager even afford 3+kids? and what if someone falls ill or he loses his job, the lawyer can more easily ride these bad times out.


So yea, if all controls are held equal, the lawyer is gonna have a better life in the long run. Your argument is liken to why finish hs, get a job changing tires. You work on a few cars a day, then you get to go home at like 5pm on the dot and not worry about anything till you clock back in at 8am. LIfe is easy, you wife will love you, your kids will love you are home early, and you give back to society cause everyone needs tires.

[Ailes]

I have no direction in life but a job. Part of it is probably that I don't want to end begging for money or whatever. I do my job, I try to do it well (because I want to, but it's not a job I feel genuinely attached to or whatever, even it's not the worst I can imagine), and then I try to just play games or sleep or whatever and forget all the ♥♥♥♥ that happens outside. I'm not genuinely happy, but sometimes some things still make me smile, and if it's just the little ones. I try to value things that aren't as self-evident as people sometimes think. You don't need a direction or anything, just something to keep yourself occupied with (or else you would go mad I reckon). And maybe that's fair enough. What's the point in striving for high goals when you could get shot down on the street just like that? Or if cancer kills you down like it apparently does to so many people? You need to know what you want (or not) and do it (or not) if you can and with as little regrets as possible and that's it.

[Tux]

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Mr.Shaggnificent eredeti hozzászólása:

Or that lawyer is twice divorced with much more paid in alimony than what he keeps, and worthless scumbag entitled brats for kids who hate him because he was never around when they were growing up.

And the office manager lives in his modest home with the same wife(who approaches working in the same way), and has kids who love and respect him and are decent human beings who contribute to society.

Hypotheticals are fun.

Hypotheticals are fun, but mine are more likely to happen. Divorce rates in America are roughly 50%, while high priced lawyers and other 1% people do not make up 50% of the population so its safe to say that office managers are getting divorced at the same rate.

Are you arguing all lawyers have kids that hate them? While the lawyer might have missed a lot of big events in the younger years, he has the financial freedom to provide for his family. Can the office manager even afford 3+kids? and what if someone falls ill or he loses his job, the lawyer can more easily ride these bad times out.


So yea, if all controls are held equal, the lawyer is gonna have a better life in the long run. Your argument is liken to why finish hs, get a job changing tires. You work on a few cars a day, then you get to go home at like 5pm on the dot and not worry about anything till you clock back in at 8am. LIfe is easy, you wife will love you, your kids will love you are home early, and you give back to society cause everyone needs tires.

well that depends on a lot of factors namely of which money doesnt create happyness by default but how one uses it can.

if the lawyer gets himself into debt, if the lawyer takes up a coke habit, if the lawyer discovers the reason he became a lawyer in the first place was to please his parents who where never happy with him, if he has a heart attack from working so hard. the list of 'maybes goes on for a long time.

I am not a lawyer and yet I say 75% of my wages and I can work pretty much any where in the country I want to or take a few years off if I want to ....i win! ha!

[Richard I]

No, you should have started an important career buy the time you hit 18 unless you were in college.

[SLanted Edge]

Tux eredeti hozzászólása:

SLanted Edge eredeti hozzászólása:

Hypotheticals are fun, but mine are more likely to happen. Divorce rates in America are roughly 50%, while high priced lawyers and other 1% people do not make up 50% of the population so its safe to say that office managers are getting divorced at the same rate.

Are you arguing all lawyers have kids that hate them? While the lawyer might have missed a lot of big events in the younger years, he has the financial freedom to provide for his family. Can the office manager even afford 3+kids? and what if someone falls ill or he loses his job, the lawyer can more easily ride these bad times out.


So yea, if all controls are held equal, the lawyer is gonna have a better life in the long run. Your argument is liken to why finish hs, get a job changing tires. You work on a few cars a day, then you get to go home at like 5pm on the dot and not worry about anything till you clock back in at 8am. LIfe is easy, you wife will love you, your kids will love you are home early, and you give back to society cause everyone needs tires.

well that depends on a lot of factors namely of which money doesnt create happyness by default but how one uses it can.

if the lawyer gets himself into debt, if the lawyer takes up a coke habit, if the lawyer discovers the reason he became a lawyer in the first place was to please his parents who where never happy with him, if he has a heart attack from working so hard. the list of 'maybes goes on for a long time.

I am not a lawyer and yet I say 75% of my wages and I can work pretty much any where in the country I want to or take a few years off if I want to ....i win! ha!

You make poor arguments. I already said we should keep all factors relevant and equal. If you are talking about a coke habit, the office manager can have the same coke habit (that he can't afford).

maybe the office manager wakes up and realizes his trap, he can't make enough to retire and has a heart attack there.

The argument is easy...if all things held equal being the lawyer is always better than the office manager. Sure school was harder for the lawyer, school was longer, you have more debt, you worked hard in ur late 20s, but once your mid 30s roll around you are doing significantly better than your office manager counter part.