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Elon Musk says DEI must DIE
Super smart genius and rich billionaire Elon Musk says "DEI must DIE"

DEI = Diversity, Equity and Inclusion

Musk suggests that they are just propaganda words!

Tesla however supports DEI and even highlighted it's efforts for it back in the Impact Reports for 2022.

Does this confirm that Elon Musk is attempting to kill off his own Tesla company? That he isn't satisfied just killing off xTwitter and has a strong lust to destroy even more businesses?
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xDDD 2023年12月19日 18時40分 
Lokaror の投稿を引用:

Being honest the few jobs i have gotten has been due to programs like DEI (but for folks with disabilities and who need help getting jobs) and i was still not hired for many of the job applications because of my issues. Employers didn't say that's why but after so many applications you figure when you are just not a good fit and when employers who say they want to hire all equally believe you'd be a burden without trying you out. So while i understand what you are saying, i don't think i'd agree with it unless i saw each policy as written. I'm sure there are many who would say i was hired in those jobs and took them from abled people and that would be discrimination. Naturally i disagree. Regardless i'd look at each policy as presented and judge it on its own merits than support or throw out the idea entirely.
How do you know that your disability is isn't why you were hired?
Are you aware that pretty much everybody sends in dozens of applications nowadays before even getting an interview? I don't want to say you're making an excuse but all I'm saying is everyone has this same issue disabled or not. If these are jobs you can do as a disabled person and you are qualified for them then it is irrelevant whether you are disabled or not.

And I mean there's situations where certain disabled people cannot do certain jobs. Like clearly if you are a paraplegic then you will never get a job as a roofer. Is this discrimination? Should roofing companies be forced to hire paraplegics if those paraplegics wanted to be roofers?
Azza ☠ 2023年12月19日 18時40分 
swillfly の投稿を引用:
never twitter so don't care

Can be related to SpaceX or Tesla as well. Pretty sure Elon Musk was actually referring to one of them rather than xTwitter itself, yet all of them seem affected in a related way.

Now given one had the issue, you could perhaps let it slide as a mistake, but all three? Something clearly wrong needs to be address. That's not even including the animal-welfare and privacy violations of Neuralink. Equal animal rights?
Birds 2023年12月19日 18時42分 
So does he support UBI or euthanasia?

Any kind of alternative plans for its removal, or just 'this is inconvenient go away' kind of stuff?
Lokaror 2023年12月19日 18時58分 
:D の投稿を引用:
Lokaror の投稿を引用:

Being honest the few jobs i have gotten has been due to programs like DEI (but for folks with disabilities and who need help getting jobs) and i was still not hired for many of the job applications because of my issues. Employers didn't say that's why but after so many applications you figure when you are just not a good fit and when employers who say they want to hire all equally believe you'd be a burden without trying you out. So while i understand what you are saying, i don't think i'd agree with it unless i saw each policy as written. I'm sure there are many who would say i was hired in those jobs and took them from abled people and that would be discrimination. Naturally i disagree. Regardless i'd look at each policy as presented and judge it on its own merits than support or throw out the idea entirely.
How do you know that your disability is isn't why you were hired?
Are you aware that pretty much everybody sends in dozens of applications nowadays before even getting an interview? I don't want to say you're making an excuse but all I'm saying is everyone has this same issue disabled or not. If these are jobs you can do as a disabled person and you are qualified for them then it is irrelevant whether you are disabled or not.

And I mean there's situations where certain disabled people cannot do certain jobs. Like clearly if you are a paraplegic then you will never get a job as a roofer. Is this discrimination? Should roofing companies be forced to hire paraplegics if those paraplegics wanted to be roofers?

I know my own personal circumstances much better than you do, and believe it or not i know how the job market and my place in it works. And believe it or not, i never claimed that a parapalaegic should roof.

You say you are not saying im making excuses and then try to point out things i know very well. I actually know i have not been considered for a role or two around town, but legally i cannot prove it.

I can also tell when an interviewer learns im disabled and they only continue the interview out of obligation. Again, has happened once or twice (not often compared to other interviews for jobs i've just not got.)

Can i ask you why you assumed i didnt know what i was talking about? I think thats actually rather intresting. You say you dont want to say im making excuses but you were rather quick to make them for the companies you don't know.

Interesting, isn't it?
Bamford 2023年12月19日 19時07分 
Imagine being so butthurt about their ideology not being able to withstand scrutiny on X that they become apologists for the soft totalitarianism of the EU.

Just look at the face of their censorship czar, the Karen of dystopian fiction/
https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1736701607553692020
swillfly 2023年12月19日 19時11分 
Azza ☠ の投稿を引用:
swillfly の投稿を引用:
never twitter so don't care

Can be related to SpaceX or Tesla as well. Pretty sure Elon Musk was actually referring to one of them rather than xTwitter itself, yet all of them seem affected in a related way.

Now given one had the issue, you could perhaps let it slide as a mistake, but all three? Something clearly wrong needs to be address. That's not even including the animal-welfare and privacy violations of Neuralink. Equal animal rights?

SpaceX & Tesla are for wealthy folks with plenty of time on their hands.

If Elon came out as a goose-stepping fascist - would it change anything?
Nope.
Because $$$$$$$$$ = power to do & say whatever one wishes.

Just wait until 2024 'Murica campaign starts.
I predict jackalopes galore.
Birds 2023年12月19日 19時12分 
swillfly の投稿を引用:
Azza ☠ の投稿を引用:

Can be related to SpaceX or Tesla as well. Pretty sure Elon Musk was actually referring to one of them rather than xTwitter itself, yet all of them seem affected in a related way.

Now given one had the issue, you could perhaps let it slide as a mistake, but all three? Something clearly wrong needs to be address. That's not even including the animal-welfare and privacy violations of Neuralink. Equal animal rights?

SpaceX & Tesla are for wealthy folks with plenty of time on their hands.

If Elon came out as a goose-stepping fascist - would it change anything?
Nope.
Because $$$$$$$$$ = power to do & say whatever one wishes.

Just wait until 2024 'Murica campaign starts.
I predict jackalopes galore.

he's a part of the establishment now and has requirements to behave in a certain way if he wants that relationship to continue.
xDDD 2023年12月19日 19時19分 
Lokaror の投稿を引用:
I know my own personal circumstances much better than you do, and believe it or not i know how the job market and my place in it works. And believe it or not, i never claimed that a parapalaegic should roof.

You say you are not saying im making excuses and then try to point out things i know very well. I actually know i have not been considered for a role or two around town, but legally i cannot prove it.

I can also tell when an interviewer learns im disabled and they only continue the interview out of obligation. Again, has happened once or twice (not often compared to other interviews for jobs i've just not got.)

Can i ask you why you assumed i didnt know what i was talking about? I think thats actually rather intresting. You say you dont want to say im making excuses but you were rather quick to make them for the companies you don't know.

Interesting, isn't it?
Because we live in a world of people constantly making excuses for themselves both for things within and outside of their control.
Many just as often say "Oh I didn't get hired because I was _____" but there's no way of knowing what the interviewer was actually thinking they are just assuming that is what they were thinking.

The fact is that job interviews are absolute BS for everyone. There's about a million irrelevant things that could cost you the job during the interview, anything from not "clicking" with the interviewer to the interviewer literally just having a bad day.
Nobody likes getting rejected, but we gotta just keep pushing forward.

Is your disability actually relevant to the job? Are you actually required to disclose it? Genuine questions.


I guess the main thing I'm wondering is: What is the end game here? Because I don't see a real solution in DEI.
Acetyl 2023年12月19日 19時25分 
Elon is a frontman. People were getting tired of NASA so they brought in a superficial private sector apparatus to launder money through. The media propped him up as a Tony Stark figure. Most of his "innovations" are highly hyped spectacle oriented 1960's tech. Werner Von Braun's book dubbed the Martian ruler "Elon" and so he was positioned in such a way to associate him with Mars, Elon Musk's father and grandfather were both prominent in the early Technocratic movement.
https://archive.org/details/TheTechnocrat-September1937/page/n2/mode/1up
Everything the guy does is fluff and run by the numbers, including the 44 billion buyout of twitter. None of this ♥♥♥♥ is real, it's all smoke and mirrors and an attentional sink, anything real is either highly obfuscated or just drip fed in for narrative control while the power structure treads water and sets things up behind the scenes.

They probably lesioned his brainstem or something. Have you ever looked at his mother? Reminds me of a more twisted version of Cruella, Cruella, de Vil. Seriously?
Lokaror 2023年12月19日 19時27分 
:D の投稿を引用:
Lokaror の投稿を引用:
I know my own personal circumstances much better than you do, and believe it or not i know how the job market and my place in it works. And believe it or not, i never claimed that a parapalaegic should roof.

You say you are not saying im making excuses and then try to point out things i know very well. I actually know i have not been considered for a role or two around town, but legally i cannot prove it.

I can also tell when an interviewer learns im disabled and they only continue the interview out of obligation. Again, has happened once or twice (not often compared to other interviews for jobs i've just not got.)

Can i ask you why you assumed i didnt know what i was talking about? I think thats actually rather intresting. You say you dont want to say im making excuses but you were rather quick to make them for the companies you don't know.

Interesting, isn't it?
Because we live in a world of people constantly making excuses for themselves both for things within and outside of their control.
Many just as often say "Oh I didn't get hired because I was _____" but there's no way of knowing what the interviewer was actually thinking they are just assuming that is what they were thinking.

The fact is that job interviews are absolute BS for everyone. There's about a million irrelevant things that could cost you the job during the interview, anything from not "clicking" with the interviewer to the interviewer literally just having a bad day.
Nobody likes getting rejected, but we gotta just keep pushing forward.

Is your disability actually relevant to the job? Are you actually required to disclose it? Genuine questions.


I guess the main thing I'm wondering is: What is the end game here? Because I don't see a real solution in DEI.

It can be relevant to the job. And at times i do have to disclose it. And those times it *has* counted against me even though its illegal to do so. Believe me or not, i do not care. There have absolutely been times where it *should* not count against me and it does, and times it should count against me and it has, and times it has. You are free to believe i'm lying. To get needed things that make it so i can do the job, (accomidations that are legally required) i have had to disclose. And once again, i'm, not saying its always the case. I'd say 9/10 its not.

You are free to believe i'm making excuses the 1/10 times. I just am saying that with my experiences with this, i'm not ready to condemn DEI as a concept. You take care, i'm checking out this thread. I've got other things to do tonight.
Majestic Turkey の投稿を引用:
Ops favored world is war crimes, crime, decay and corruption, and they just want to silence you for noticing.

(blah, blah, blah)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO7Q1wKp5co

I couldn't even understand the point of your post related to the topic, till the last one, which is confused about what is "Free Speech" vs "Hate Speech".

It's assuming they are censoring what is really going on...

The EU is actually investigating Elon Musk's X over the possible spread of terrorist and violent content, and hate speech, after Hamas' attack on Israel.

If you have a very short term memory lost like Trump supporters also did, Elon Musk went out of his own way to promote antisemitism content upon a "Hitler was right" topic related to the "Replacement theory" being and I quote Elon Musk himself "You have said the actual truth".

xTwitter has already said had removed hundreds of Hamas-affiliated accounts from the platform. Elon Musk did that censorship himself... it's not what the investigating is actually about.

As for what is the disinformation part, xTwitter had fake and manipulated images and video clips even from computer games, such as Arma 3, being used as so-called 'facts' about the war.
最近の変更はAzza ☠が行いました; 2023年12月20日 9時20分
Azza ☠ の投稿を引用:
As for what is the disinformation part, xTwitter had fake and manipulated images and video clips even from computer games, such as Arma 3, being used as so-called 'facts' about the war.

LOL! BASED!

ARMA 3 players like myself love seeing our game fool journos. Its become such a fun meme. ♥♥♥♥♥ been happening for years. Up there with classified documents leaking in War Thunder.
最近の変更はSir Seanicus, Esq.が行いました; 2023年12月20日 9時28分
Plaid の投稿を引用:
From the...

That statement is considered as being anti-Semitic and a call to wipe out the Jewish race.

From Israel and the Jewish point of view: “To Jewish Israelis what this phrase says is that between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, there will be one entity, it will be called Palestine – there will be no Jewish state – and the status of Jews in whatever entity arises will be very unclear”

From Hama's terrorists point of view: “It’s important to remember this chant is in English and it doesn’t rhyme in Arabic, it is used in demonstrations in Western countries. The controversy has been fabricated to prevent solidarity in the West with the Palestinians.”
最近の変更はAzza ☠が行いました; 2023年12月20日 9時31分
Azza ☠ の投稿を引用:
Plaid の投稿を引用:
From the...

That statement is considered as being anti-Semitic and a call to wipe out the Jewish race.

From Israel and the Jewish point of view: “To Jewish Israelis what this phrase says is that between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, there will be one entity, it will be called Palestine – there will be no Jewish state – and the status of Jews in whatever entity arises will be very unclear”

From Hama's terrorism point of view: “It’s important to remember this chant is in English and it doesn’t rhyme in Arabic, it is used in demonstrations in Western countries. The controversy has been fabricated to prevent solidarity in the West with the Palestinians.”
From Biden Voters-Palestine/Hamas Supporters point of view: "Its' an anti-semitic call to wipe out not just the Jews in Israel but all Jews everywhere, as evidence by them attacking Jewish Americans and sometimes forcing them to hide in attics.
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