I don't get it.

[ZOMBIECRUNCH]

If fiberglass can cause you to have lung disease just like asbestos. Then whats the point of using fiberglass in the firs place for insulation. I see fiberglass dust blowing when ever I open a door to a crawl space. And you better be wearing a full body suit if you are getting anywhere near that stuff.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLInU31fY_w

[Your_White_Knight]

Escrito originalmente por ZOMBIECRUNCH:

I don't get it.

If fiberglass can cause you to have lung disease just like asbestos. Then whats the point of using fiberglass in the firs place for insulation. I see fiberglass dust blowing when ever I open a door to a crawl space. And you better be wearing a full body suit if you are getting anywhere near that stuff.

Just like Asbestos they didn't know it did until way too late.

Just another example of science thinking it's smarter then it actually is... mankind's folly.

[xDDD]

Fiber glass isn't as bad as asbestos was.
And they use it as insulation because it is a very good insulator.

[ZOMBIECRUNCH]

Escrito originalmente por :D:

Fiber glass isn't as bad as asbestos was.
And they use it as insulation because it is a very good insulator.

You can use wool as insulation. Pretty sure you need to seal that stuff in the wall tight like a tiger. But doesn't insulation need to have airflow? Not a fan of that eco insulation crap that's just sprayed wood pulp.

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Fibreglass fibres are different than asbestos. Asbestos fibres are smaller and somewhat barbed which allows them to float in the air longer and latch onto lung tissue. Fibreglass can be much more easily coughed out but dust masks should still be worn when handling it in enclosed environments as it can still cause irritation.

[Pieshaman]

im still amazed usa is a developed country and still not did total ban on asbestos.
they should really know better by now don't you think?
the glass fibre you refer to as dangerous is glass wool, which is old stuff we used but replaced with rockwool over the years. fibre glass is not the same as glass wool. I think you just confused of words being used.
usa is like 100 years behind on all this compared to the rest of modern world, which is kinda weird cause I don't know why that is exactly.

[[FOAD]Iron]

The same reason the put fluoride in your water and toothpaste: because the people that run the world want you to be sick and die young.

[Under there]

why is everyone so obsessed with living as long as possible?
have you seen people at 70+?

[kilésengati]

Please don't confuse fibreglass with glasswool. Glasswool is made from fibreglass, but they are different products. Also not to be confused with mineral wool, which is another type of insulation commonly used in construction that has similar properties.

Yes, if you inhale it, it can have similar effects, but fibreglass particles are way larger than asbestos, making it easier to filter and less likely for you to develop fibrosis if you happen to inhale it. Glasswool is safer to produce, as asbestos is usually mined from open pits polluting everything around it with asbestos. And fibreglass on its own isn't considered carcinogenic.

The biggest issue with asbestos, besides being some of the nastiest things known to man kind, is they started putting it into everything during the post-war era, because it is a cheap and versatile material combining properties of various other more expensive alternatives into a lighter and more workable package.
If they would've used it only for insulation, it would be an easy fix, but they used it in literally everything back then, bonded and unbonded, even in bloody toothpaste. And in construction and the automotive industry it continued to be a popular material all the way into the 2000s.

There still have to be precautions taken when working with glasswool, and there are many less harmful alternatives available, but it's far from the devil that asbestos is.
By the way, if you are working with fine wool, down, wood, cellulose fibre or other materials that produce fine particles when worked with, you'll have to wear protection, too.
They now start insulating houses with some type of sprayable wood fibre cement thing. It's basically a modernised version of the hay-and-clay insulation used in timber-framed houses. But they go in there fully-clad.

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im still amazed usa is a developed country and still not did total ban on asbestos.
they should really know better by now don't you think?
the glass fibre you refer to as dangerous is glass wool, which is old stuff we used but replaced with rockwool over the years. fibre glass is not the same as glass wool. I think you just confused of words being used.
usa is like 100 years behind on all this compared to the rest of modern world, which is kinda weird cause I don't know why that is exactly.

I recently received a parcel packed in X-Board, should I be concerned?

[Ice Robertson]

Escrito originalmente por 240p Enjoyer:

why is everyone so obsessed with living as long as possible?
have you seen people at 70+?

I wanna live long enough to collect the pension but they wanna raise the qualifying age.

I don't believe I'll live that long.... I hate governments.

[Kobs]

Fiberglass is tiny glass fibers, of course it's not good to breathe. Now days most insulation in homes are sprayed foam and organic cotton like stuff in the attic.
If you do have loose fiberglass in your attic it's a good idea if you go in there to be protected specially a full face breathing mask

[kilésengati]

Escrito originalmente por Kobs:

Fiberglass is tiny glass fibers, of course it's not good to breathe. Now days most insulation in homes are sprayed foam and organic cotton like stuff in the attic.
If you do have loose fiberglass in your attic it's a good idea if you go in there to be protected specially a full face breathing mask

Interesting, spray foam was never widely used here in Europe. Only for filling gaps and in mechanical application.

Traditionally, it's mostly only roofs that received insulation anyway. Insulating walls only became popular once energy prices started to skyrocket and environmentalism became mainstream politics. Besides, a thick hollow-brick wall is pretty good at insulating on its own.

It was either loose or sheet glass or mineral wool and sometimes polymers (which are still used today). These increasingly get replaced by wood wool, some sort of cotton and also sometimes real wool. Porous, sprayable wood-cement mixes and prefab board equivalents also grow in popularity. And since many houses are now build with ytong bricks, which have very good insulation properties on their own, not as much extra insulation is needed anymore anyway.


In Europe, it's a common joke that American houses are basically oversized garden sheds. ;P

[MinionJoe]

Escrito originalmente por ZOMBIECRUNCH:

You can use wool as insulation.

Well, if you want to pay $130,000 just to insulate your house, that's always an option.

That price is for 10 tons of wool at April 2023 prices. Ten tons is the average amount of fiberglass insulation required to insulate a house.

[Morkonan]

Escrito originalmente por ZOMBIECRUNCH:

If fiberglass can cause you to have lung disease just like asbestos. Then whats the point of using fiberglass in the firs place for insulation. I see fiberglass dust blowing when ever I open a door to a crawl space. And you better be wearing a full body suit if you are getting anywhere near that stuff.

As above, there's all sorts of lung diseases related to inhaling all sorts of things.

If you see "fiberglass dust" when going into a crawl-space, that's "bad." But, how do you know it's fiberglass dust? Again, as above, "fiberglass insulation" is different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_wool

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiberglass

Frequently inhaling particulates in quantity can cause lung diseases.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/popcorn-lung

Mmmm... Microwave Popcorn! (Don't worry, it's not likely to cause anyone who isn't working around the fumes longterm any issues. :))