You know in that scene in Terminator 2

[L1qu1dator]

where T-1000 is searching for John at the arcade and he asks John's friend if he saw him, and the dude lies that he doesn't know John...
Shouldn't T-1000 as a terminator be able to tell when a human is lying?

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I'm more worried about the scene in T1 when he's looking at the phone book and uses his finger to keep his place.

Would a robot need to do this?

Also, in T2, Arnold says the 1000 can only impersonate solid objects, nothing with moving parts, but when he's the cop you can see his handcuffs jangling at his side.

[potato]

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Anyway T-1000 was shapeshifting so concerns about attention were even more irrelevant.

but it was, say he would've said "you're lying, where is he?" the kid would've just run away and that's it, it wouldn't have benefited the t1000 at all

up until he found connor he didn't want to draw any unnecessary attention

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And why does he keep turning back into the cop?
After you see him the first time you know what to look for.

[Vox]

In the terminator (not sure which) but they use dogs to identify terminator infiltrators, yet in T2 the terminator cannot smile, why not just have people smile during the war.

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Even the most advanced lie detector to date cannot achieve 100% accuracy. The human body is such a mystery. Unraveling its secrets may take significantly longer than the speculative timeframe when the T-1000 existed. Or perhaps, that day will never come at all.

There are just far too many things that we still dont know about. for example, our mind and ability to reason that allowed us to dominate the earth :fuhrer_thinkingface:

There are telltale signs that are completely beyond one's control. Like brain needs to work harder to make up the lie than simply telling how it is. But that requires brain scan so something rather not accessible to T-1000.
But also temperature on the face of a liar slightly increases and that could be readable.

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I'm more worried about the scene in T1 when he's looking at the phone book and uses his finger to keep his place.

Would a robot need to do this?

Ha! Good one

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In the terminator (not sure which) but they use dogs to identify terminator infiltrators, yet in T2 the terminator cannot smile, why not just have people smile during the war.

Not to mention all the Terminators evidently look like Arnold.
Who needs the dogs!?

[Sidakte]

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In the terminator (not sure which) but they use dogs to identify terminator infiltrators, yet in T2 the terminator cannot smile, why not just have people smile during the war.

yes, german shepherds, on the 1st one. right before they get raided.

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Not to mention all the Terminators evidently look like Arnold.

nah, the t800s look different, you can tell from the scene

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just because the machine was built to infiltrate doesn't mean they were designed to be interrogators as well, since the purpose of infiltration is not to be caught.

Infiltrator should also gather information about the targets.

an infiltrator should already have the relevant information on hand so they can find the best way in to the target and kill them. The thing with skynet is that it had all that information because computers stored it all in the cloud and governmental servers and when skynet took over it gained all that right away. When it recognised a threat it send an assassin with the sole purpose to find and eliminate the target, not to make friends or gather further information, let alone deviate from the entire purpose it was designed for.

The original terminator was designed to hunt down and kill Sarah Conner to stop John Conner being born so he wouldn't rise up to take on skynet. The machine failed in its attempts to assassinate the target early on and when it was discovered, it quickly resorted to any means to murder the target.

In terminator 2, one of the infiltrator units was captured and re-programmed to find and protect John Conner from another skynet infiltrator, a far more advanced shapeshifting machine capable of changing into any form and mimic anyone along the way. you could tell it was only designed to infiltrate as it lacked any interrogation skills and left a considerable body count before it caught up. of course the older assassin machine detected the new version quickly and when it realised it was discovered, just like the previous t-1000 it too reverted to murder the target by any means possible.

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Anyway T-1000 was shapeshifting so concerns about attention were even more irrelevant.

but it was, say he would've said "you're lying, where is he?" the kid would've just run away and that's it, it wouldn't have benefited the t1000 at all

up until he found connor he didn't want to draw any unnecessary attention

He could just turn into a puddle (like in the mental asylum) and follow the dude and get to John much faster, then stabby stabby, mission complete, game over. :P

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Not to mention all the Terminators evidently look like Arnold.

nah, the t800s look different, you can tell from the scene

Every time they send a T800 back, and I've lost track how many, it looks like Arnold.
Did they lose all the other molds?

In Salvation John actually goes into the factory and sees them being made, and they all look like Arnold.

BTW, I love these movies, but I have a lot of fun with stuff. Good thread L1qu1dator.

[AustrAlien2010]

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I'm more worried about the scene in T1 when he's looking at the phone book and uses his finger to keep his place.

Would a robot need to do this?

Also, in T2, Arnold says the 1000 can only impersonate solid objects, nothing with moving parts, but when he's the cop you can see his handcuffs jangling at his side.

Its a classic. It has to be flawless.
By moving parts, it probably means parts that are not detached. Seeing how the handcuffs were still physically connected to the T-1000, its possible.
The T-800 using it's finger to keep track of the text is probably because it imitates whatever it is immitating as close as possible. And because its a robot, it doesn't think intelligently, and does not change this behaviour automatically.

There. Explained. It makes sense again. A classic has been saved.

[Vox]

Can the t1000 become a big breasted lady, I ask for a friend.

[potato]

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Every time they send a T800 back, and I've lost track how many, it looks like Arnold.
Did they lose all the other molds?

In Salvation John actually goes into the factory and sees them being made, and they all look like Arnold.

BTW, I love these movies, but I have a lot of fun with stuff. Good thread L1qu1dator.

well yea, it's a movie

there's also a funny reason why they sound like arnold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kayFrIR-Qfw

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Can the t1000 become a big breasted lady, I ask for a friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQKQ0V1o30M