How much of a boob must be covered

[Fajita Jim]

to be publicly decent?

It seems pretty arbitrary at this point, doesn't it?

[Stellar Remnant]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fake:

All joking aside, if you have moobs, cover them up.

*jiggles moobs*

[Fajita Jim]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Morkonan:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fajita Jim:

Some of them. Ever heard of Egypt? Or Rome? Far older than the US of A. Hell, most of antiquity allowed most classes of women to go topless or in the case of the upper classes transparent fabrics.

Then the puritanical religions happened.

Do you think it's within the realm of probability that when breast support was discovered, to give support and more comfort for certain sized chesticles... that women just ignored those and said "No, sorry, we're going to wait to be persecuted by the puritanicals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_bras

Lookit all dem puritanicals...

You're saying that there were Minoan "puritanical" religions that ran around and made women cover up their breasts in 1400 BC? Did they make "most" women do that?


Where did you learn this? Who's teaching this stuff?

Support is one thing, but especially higher class women would wear fashion revealing the breasts. It came into vogue many times throughout medieval Europe and The Renaissance, even. There was a rush of high-class women around the last days of the French monarchy who rushed to get their portraits done with their breast exposed. I believe this style is called “a la grecque” or “gaulle”. Hold on lemme look...

Most were later censored of detail, including both I'm posting here, so nothing NSFW.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7e/0f/78/7e0f786cc819f0969e76340cd6a84013--painting-portraits-a-lady.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcwBwLvX0AAXuMz.jpg

Like the detail in those paintings, these facts have been purposely obscured.

You know what, let's get away from the Euro-centrism line of thought for a moment.

Most Native American tribes, especially here in the Cherokee region and the Iroquois Confederacy a bit further north, women (who often went topless) were the ultimate deciders. Men did most of the administration, but women made the decisions like who to ally with, who to go to war with, and so on.

[Stranger]

alright, alright, maybe just a small potato sack.

like a crop top.

[kilésengati]

Well, since nude beaches and greens are public here, I guess none. ;P

[steven1mac]

A hand's worth should be sufficient.

[kilésengati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fajita Jim:

How much of a boob must be covered to be publicly decent?

Also, the creators of this advertisment must have thought about this question alot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBgUTOP8lEg


On the other hand, the creators of the Fa advertisements didn't gave a flying toss at all.

[Apollo702]

Point 1:

Virtually all of the girls that choose me are a minimum of a D cup- or more. More than once I posted the only image of my 5th fiancee'(who was a physical clone of my deceased wife(Fiancee' 1.) It was the only picture of her that I ever took.

The picture was at most PG- and yet the dumb robots or mods deleted it- twice. There was no warning. There was no notice. It just vanished- twice. Apparently they think that any amount of female skin has got to go- but then again, with their loser audience I get it...


Point 2:

When I go out I always show my man boobs. When I set foot out of the house it's expected that something is going to happen. If I go to stores I expect to be followed or approached. If it's some place like the strip or clubs the only reason I go is to get picked up.

My chest is one of the first things to get the girls activated- and if the other guys don't like it; perfect!

[Capt Spack Jarrow]

Hijabs and coveralls.

[sleeps]

depends on place and culture i suppose

[Xautos]

just short of a very large and puffy areola. prevents any accidental spillage. the bra can support the breasts and help the back out as well.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

I remember I watched this video where hot women in Sweden would flash their tits to slow down traffic.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7C5A5p_or8

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

I think the cleavage can go as far down to just not reveal the nipple area. Strippers can just put those hearts on their boobs though.

[Morkonan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fajita Jim:

Support is one thing, but especially higher class women would wear fashion revealing the breasts. It came into vogue many times throughout medieval Europe and The Renaissance, even. There was a rush of high-class women around the last days of the French monarchy who rushed to get their portraits done with their breast exposed. I believe this style is called “a la grecque” or “gaulle”. Hold on lemme look...
..

This is over a thousand years later than what I addressed - Women had been covering and or supporting their breasts for over a thousand years. (Edit: Before that time. In total, for well over 3000+ years of human history.)

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/248309

This is a contemporaneously produced funerary figure of a typically clothed Greek woman of around 300+ BC.

That some women at certain times may have bared their breasts isn't disputed. What is disputed is you implying that it was puritanical religions that forced women to cover their breasts... which is just outrageously, badly, wrong. (When it comes to making the general statement you made, that is.)

And, that you note this might have been some kind of fad among upper-class women... simply points to the fact that they would have had to have normally covered their breasts for it to be so very risque' in the first place.

That puritan ideals or some otherwise extremely conservative form of dress, exist is not disputed.

That you're seeming to insist that women would not have covered their breasts if not forced to do so by puritanical religion is absurd.

Most Native American tribes, especially here in the Cherokee region and the Iroquois Confederacy a bit further north, women (who often went topless) were the ultimate deciders. Men did most of the administration, but women made the decisions like who to ally with, who to go to war with, and so on.

And?

I've often pointed out that there is evidence to suggest female leadership of tribal societies was likely common, but my commentary addresses evidence for that in Europe. It stands to reason that could have been common.

The "switch" to a mostly male-dominated hierarchy is thought to surround the evolution of a smaller society into a larger one and growing need for massed warfare in which the largest gains of prosperity, and protections for basic survival, begin to be more male-centric. Strong warriors and strong, trusted, war leaders more often rise to prominence as such interactions become much more critically important to the survival of the society.

But, this isn't about any of that...


This is about the fact that women wore coverings over their chesticles for many reasons throughout human history. It's not disputed that there are exceptions. What is disputed is that puritanical religions are to "blame" for such a thing. Did religios/culture pressure come into play somewhere, sometime? Sure - Different cultures are different. But, practical sense demonstrates that they are no causal factor relevant to human history.

[Candyy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von kilésengati:

Well, since nude beaches and greens are public here, I guess none. ;P

But that is only the beach ,a very specific área...