Is Morality subjective?

[Xero_Daxter]

It seems like people can’t agree on what’s right or wrong. Even the law can be subjective because the judge might rule in favor for the bad guy instead of the good guy.

Your thoughts? Can we ever be objectively moral? If so then why people disagree so much on what’s moral or not moral?

Edit: If you want an answer from me, I believe it’s subjective but that’s just me. Let me hear everyone’s thoughts.

[apathy]

Yes it depends on the whims of the person, and general consensus of what everyone else thinks of them and their actions.

We all agree the God of the Bible is a morally repugnant tyrannical b@st@rd, and apologetic theists who say he's the moral standard, and decides what is morality, are 100% full of $hit.

[Haiku's Knife]

Yes, because morality is entirely based on feelings. "Stealing makes me feel bad, so it's bad" "Helping people makes me feel good, so it's good".

But objectively, stealing has always been part of civilization building and therefore integral to the advancement of mankind. And if you help people too much, that can contribute to overpopulation and the destruction of the environment or a lack of independence on their part. Good and evil don't exist. Everything is just a matter of context and utility.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Usually it's what the majority agrees upon so it is subjective in a sense.

[Basarab Laiota]

it depends on your culture.. people across the world will never agree on anything because their entire lives are different
here's an example.. the hijab.. most see it as a form of oppression, women have to cover themselves in certain cultures.. so you assume that in western cultures these ladies who were forced to wear one will be happy to throw it off.. well i know a lady who always wears a hijab because she likes it. doesn't care about what others say.. its her choice and in her eyes she is making the moral correct choice, but passerbys look at her and think "omg that poor woman is probably being forced fo wear that by someone in her family, that is morally incorrect"
tl;dr just b urself and don't tell other ppl what to do if they aren't harming anyone

[L1qu1dator]

No. Just listen to me, cause I know what's morally objective :P

[Morkonan]

Publicado originalmente por Xero_Daxter:

...Your thoughts? Can we ever be objectively moral? If so then why people disagree so much on what’s moral or not moral?

I believe it is possible. I've always been a "the ends do not justify the means" sort of guy.

The key is the principles which are used and what they're based on. A "Love thy neighbor" and "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you" kind of approach is a very good start.

On disagreement - Some disagree without principle, saying there are none. Some disagree in principles that favor their choices which others would see as immoral. Some disagree based on "the ends justify the means," saying that to be moral one may have to be immoral.

Prepare for the flood of Internet Philosophers...

[Tristin]

Publicado originalmente por Xero_Daxter:

Is Morality subjective?

It seems like people can’t agree on what’s right or wrong. Even the law can be subjective because the judge might rule in favor for the bad guy instead of the good guy.

Your thoughts? Can we ever be objectively moral? If so then why people disagree so much on what’s moral or not moral?

This probably will take time. Once we become "one" with the world, just like the gravity pulls all in to make another big bang, we are destined to become perfect, and then to be scattered, and repeat again.

The process of playing in the sandbox is just an experiment, which we figure things out on the way. What we consider good or bad, or "moral" is just made up word for us to become "one" in the end. Its a inevitable process. Those who go against it are eliminated soon as possible by other entities, by the world as seeing unfit to the program.

Gg. Hope this answers your headache. Oh, did I just made it worse?

[Walach]

I'd say, in general terms that no, morals aren't subjective. Taken to extremes, then everything becomes subjective or rather, becomes none static. Reading too much into something really doesn't do much more than "muddying the waters" in my opinion. :P

[Haiku's Knife]

Publicado originalmente por Morkonan:

I believe it is possible. I've always been a "the ends do not justify the means" sort of guy.

The key is the principles which are used and what they're based on. A "Love thy neighbor" and "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you" kind of approach is a very good start.

On disagreement - Some disagree without principle, saying there are none. Some disagree in principles that favor their choices which others would see as immoral. Some disagree based on "the ends justify the means," saying that to be moral one may have to be immoral.

Prepare for the flood of Internet Philosophers...

I don't see anything here that supports the notion of objective morality.

[Knee]

only to nihilists

[Candyy]

Mostly yeah...

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Yes, if you've seen Joker (2019) you feel bad for the Villain

[Xautos]

morality is just a concept we come up with to justify our actions. i mean we don't need it, but to those who don't use it and they see others who do use it, those people look like a special snowflakes. where as those who follow the morality concept would see those who don't follow it as barbaric, even insane.

funny thing is, if there was a mirror, both sides saw each other exactly the same way from the same point of view.

[chewbachman]

“ The Moral Law isn't any one instinct or any set of instincts: it is something which makes a kind of tune (the tune we call goodness or right conduct) by directing the instincts. (...) The most dangerous thing you can do is to take any one impulse of your own nature and set it up as the thing you ought to follow at all costs. There's not one of them which won't make us into devils if we set it up as an absolute guide. You might think love of humanity in general was safe, but it isn't. If you leave out justice you'll find yourself breaking agreements and faking evidence in trials 'for the sake of humanity,' and become in the end a cruel and treacherous man.”

[Hobbit XIII]

yes its subjective / cultural.