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Stakanov 2023 年 12 月 5 日 上午 10:27
GTA VI will be a woke game
When you look closely at the details on the trailer and also on the leaks, there are plenty of warning signs that the game might be woke.

I'm going to predict something, in GTA VI we'll play a big ole beta under the orders of his lady, if the subject isn't censored please post when the game comes out and you'll see that I was right as usual I feel like saying...

EDIT :

引用自 Belgian Problem
Gamers really be allergic to women, huh?

Because it's not realistic, I'm going to take the risk of saying 3% of what I think... and hope I don't get censored for it.

To start talking about women as if that's where the problem comes from is ridiculous, woke doesn't necessarily mean woman, all serious people point the finger at wokism, not women. Saying this kind of thing or even talking about sexism/incels is just a stunt aimed at breaking down the argument put forward by many players...

There are many games that have women as protagonists, and they're good ones, like Resident Evil 3 on Playstation 1, my favorite game, which has a woman as protagonist...

In this game we play Jill and at one point a giant bell, if I remember correctly, blocks our way, and it's written that only a Herculean force could push this thing, when we take control of the character Carlos he'll be able to push the bell with the strength of his muscles, at the time everyone thought it was normal, because it's realistic and wokism didn't exist yet.

The problem with games that promote wokism is that they denature realism while trying to look realistic - it's an aberration that makes no artistic sense.
A woke woman in a video game is bound to be smarter than all the men, especially if they're white, and she'll be much braver and physically stronger. She'll be a leader, she'll talk, she'll dominate, she'll make all the decisions and the man will obey as shown in the trailer.

Even if they change and decide to put a man as the protagonist, it'll be just as bad because wokism promotes men being weak, vulnerable, feminine, crying and all...

Why are more and more games promoting wokism?
Promoting an ideology in a video game should be banned, it's an attempt to corrupt young people.
Wokism is in a lot of media, it's huge and often saying "bad things" about wokism ends up with censorship. If Wokism is everywhere, does that mean there are plenty of people who agree with it?

The answer is no, wokism and other Lgbt stuff is very much in the minority.

yet there is a constant promotion to believe that certain forces would like to see more and more men follow this ideology. In reality, if GTA VI does indeed create a woke game with this woman as the protagonist, we will be entitled to observe extremely uncomfortable scenes, probably a lot of LGBTQ - non-binary quest givers.
A story that has no connection with the real world and will be very bland.

A woke fantasy where wokism would be accepted in a world of crime while any serious person knows that the world of crime and criminals is very violent, masculine, it's just reality
最后由 Stakanov 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 5 日 下午 11:11
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The Mastermind 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:56 
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi
Wouldn't a male character with breasts be more woke?
The complaint is games having a cookie cutter protagonist who's a woman, instead of "john everyman" who, also happens to be a Mary Sue/Gary Stue. When the male protagonist outshines everyone, and is better than everyone else, nobody bats an eye. When it's a female protagonist, everyone loses their mind, screaming "woke."
I may be kinda behind on this topic but I don't get how people thing that having female protagonist in game means that the game is "woke". Like imo there isn't anything woke about it. Or maybe I am just boomer idk.
Leonardo Da Pinchi 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:56 
I mean, one could simply just not purchase the product. There's no need to pitch a fit over it in the first place.
gugnihr 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:58 
引用自 Stakanov
we will be entitled to observe extremely uncomfortable scenes, probably a lot of LGBTQ - non-binary quest givers.

You talk like any other theme that GTA games usually have is not uncomfortable. You hve no problems with that other garbage but you have problems with this? If you don't want to watch uncomfortable stuff then don't play GTA games. I hoped that people in general were sane enough to consider typical GTA themes uncomfortable but I was too optimistic I guess

引用自 Stakanov
the world of crime and criminals is very violent, masculine, it's just reality

Thank you for the random sexist insult against men and masculinity btw

GTA games are garbage, at least this time wokeism didn't ruin anything of value.
最后由 gugnihr 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 2:00
Leonardo Da Pinchi 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:58 
引用自 The Mastermind
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi
The complaint is games having a cookie cutter protagonist who's a woman, instead of "john everyman" who, also happens to be a Mary Sue/Gary Stue. When the male protagonist outshines everyone, and is better than everyone else, nobody bats an eye. When it's a female protagonist, everyone loses their mind, screaming "woke."
I may be kinda behind on this topic but I don't get how people thing that having female protagonist in game means that the game is "woke". Like imo there isn't anything woke about it. Or maybe I am just boomer idk.
It's not about really having female protagonists (admittedly, a portion of the anti-woke troglodytes are upset women even exist in media), it's they're upset when a female protagonist outdo men in the game.

Not seeing how ridiculous the outrage is when the same standard is held in games THEY play, with male protagonists.
👾 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:58 
引用自 The Mastermind
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi
The complaint is games having a cookie cutter protagonist who's a woman, instead of "john everyman" who, also happens to be a Mary Sue/Gary Stue. When the male protagonist outshines everyone, and is better than everyone else, nobody bats an eye. When it's a female protagonist, everyone loses their mind, screaming "woke."
I may be kinda behind on this topic but I don't get how people thing that having female protagonist in game means that the game is "woke". Like imo there isn't anything woke about it. Or maybe I am just boomer idk.

They don't, that's just what the wokies will make of it. Either as a sealioning tactic or maybe because they actually don't get it.
最后由 👾 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 1:59
The Mastermind 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 2:01 
引用自 lankaras
引用自 The Mastermind
I may be kinda behind on this topic but I don't get how people thing that having female protagonist in game means that the game is "woke". Like imo there isn't anything woke about it. Or maybe I am just boomer idk.

They don't, that's just what the wokies will make of it. Either as a sealioning tactic or maybe because they actually don't get it.
Yeah, something tells me it's the second...
👾 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 2:02 
引用自 The Mastermind
引用自 lankaras

They don't, that's just what the wokies will make of it. Either as a sealioning tactic or maybe because they actually don't get it.
Yeah, something tells me it's the second...

Both happens I think. Some of these people are prolly like 12 years old and just utterly naive.
最后由 👾 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 2:03
Not Big Surprise 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 Pumpkin
引用自 Iggy Wolf
*sighs* I miss when the most controversial thing was Jack Thompson jerking off about GTA causing real world violence. Now it's "woke this, woke that". Someone WAKE ME up when gaming returns to sanity and people stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and moaning about irrelevant ♥♥♥♥ that has no effect on their personal life.

It's starting to sound like a broken record. I swear, the trolls are out in full force. Can't imagine what they'll say if Bioshock 4 ever releases and the protagonist is a woman.
Until you have kids, then they are force fed to transition for looking at a barbie doll by the states teachers.
things that don't happen for one dollar and forty-six cents

引用自 Pumpkin
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi
Talk about nothingburger, you can't FORCE someone to be trans. Lol.
Want a bet on that?
are you into forcefem or something

引用自 lankaras
引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi
Talk about nothingburger, you can't FORCE someone to be trans. Lol.

Didn't John Money, one of the founding fathers of today's trans movement, essentially do exactly that? Probably don't look him up, people don't like to be reminded of where their so called ideology actually came from.
no he didn't lol
being trans isn't having your genitals butchered and getting abused for the sake of "experiments"
though i guess if you wanna see it some way, it does show that people's inner sense of self includes a semblance of gender

still, if you think john money is the "origin" of "this ideology", then i recommend you look back, way back
you might find a fella called elagabalus

引用自 Pumpkin
引用自 Iggy Wolf

Really? Please, do show me where that happens as opposed to using anecdotal evidence cherry-picked to prove your point. Btw, I don't actually care for you presenting me with any actual evidence because I won't take it seriously anyway.

It's not a serious question. It's a mockery of people complaining about a problem that doesn't exist. If I thought people were arguing in good faith, they wouldn't be here complaining on Steam forums. Go to Reddit for that.
You are the same as the other poster, asking questions to not get an answer back, no grasp on how logic even works.
with how hard it can be to actually get gender affirming care, i can only wish there were actual people forcing transitions
not really, it's not something i'm saying in a literal sense, it's figure of speech
👾 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 3:37 
引用自 Not Big Surprise
still, if you think john money is the "origin" of "this ideology"

Why do you pretend to quote me, while replacing my words with those of your own? Seriously.
THat game will suck even if it isnt so its not like it matters.
Not Big Surprise 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 3:59 
引用自 lankaras
引用自 Not Big Surprise
still, if you think john money is the "origin" of "this ideology"

Why do you pretend to quote me, while replacing my words with those of your own? Seriously.
fair
if you think john money is a "founder" of whichever movement you're referring to, whether it is the push for trans rights or something made up in the minds of people who think there are elites out there going out to trans your kids... you should probably know that trans people have existed as far as the concept of gender
👾 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 4:02 
引用自 Not Big Surprise
引用自 lankaras

Why do you pretend to quote me, while replacing my words with those of your own? Seriously.
fair
if you think john money is a "founder" of whichever movement you're referring to, whether it is the push for trans rights or something made up in the minds of people who think there are elites out there going out to trans your kids... you should probably know that trans people have existed as far as the concept of gender

Ok sure he had nothing to do with it at all. Is that the truth? No it isn't. You can nitpick my words all you want to try and get around it, doesn't change anything.
Not Big Surprise 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 4:14 
引用自 lankaras
引用自 Not Big Surprise
fair
if you think john money is a "founder" of whichever movement you're referring to, whether it is the push for trans rights or something made up in the minds of people who think there are elites out there going out to trans your kids... you should probably know that trans people have existed as far as the concept of gender

Ok sure he had nothing to do with it at all. Is that the truth? No it isn't. You can nitpick my words all you want to try and get around it, doesn't change anything.
see that's the thing, the one, sole, only way in which he affected the topic at all, is by giving a scapegoat to chuds with zero knowledge about trans history
👾 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 4:28 
引用自 Not Big Surprise
引用自 lankaras

Ok sure he had nothing to do with it at all. Is that the truth? No it isn't. You can nitpick my words all you want to try and get around it, doesn't change anything.
see that's the thing, the one, sole, only way in which he affected the topic at all, is by giving a scapegoat to chuds with zero knowledge about trans history

Sure bud I'm not surprised at all that that is how you are going to put it. kthxbai.
Candyy 2023 年 12 月 6 日 下午 4:29 
So if the protagonista is female is bad now? I am not understanding...
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