Vegan diet is ultimately healthier

[Holografix]

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/11/twin-diet-vegan-cardiovascular.html

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Heitor Villa-Lobos a écrit :

Zebrant a écrit :

I bet this study is based on the same faulty science that demonized cholesterol.

Uhum... go eat some bacon fried on butter for a few decades and tell us then how that went.

Go ahead and consume zero cholesterol for a few decades and tell us then how it went.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Heitor Villa-Lobos a écrit :

WhiteKnight77 a écrit :

You missed the point, crowded cities often do not have enough space. Residents of a property with an apartment building on it might have no place to grow even a rose bush, much less romaine lettuce.

And, fact, most of the corn grown is what is known as dent corn. It is not for human consumption in its natural state, but for feed, or corn syrup.

I am sorry, but I'm pretty sure *you* missed the point:

We need many different approaches, not one single sollution. The existence of crowded spaces doesn't imply we shouldn't grow some of our food when we do have spaces.

Also, having shared gardens atop the buildings is a nice idea.

We can either try to see things as unviable, or we can shift our mentality to search and fit all solutions we can.

Its the coexistance of these ideas and implementations that will eventually bring regeneration and sustaintability.

Veganity, all on itself, can mean hyper-industrialized foods.

That said, I think we can also learn more from Japan, with its vertical and underground farms.

Thats not how industrialization of crop production works in any form, I hate to break it to you, Eco-Industry does not even remotely work like that as underground farms are mostly and still are, largely fictional things called Bio-Domes which while we have microscopic ones, the means to feed a city would require several hundred bio-domes of large size to sustain it with food regardless if its vegan or not.

Thats also ignoring the entirety of Eco-Industrialization is still in its extreme early stages of development and largely has not been pushed beyond what it is because the next step would require large scale terraforming of land which humanity does not have access nor the means to sustain for long periods of time for crop production, that is even if we do, soil erosion and actual farmable land would require massive alterations in several parts of the world just to proper grow there, some plants at that do not grow underground, most, and I do mean most, require UV light.

At this stage of human technology, the viability of actual full scale of Eco-industrialization and sustainability is a far-fetched dream that many are working on but until we manage to grow plants and crops underground without sunlight first, along with actual do proper soil-exchanges on automatic rotation and hell, if we must, actual large scale toxicity control as well for the soil then even the bio-dome idea is not going to bare fruit for a hundred years at best, maybe fifty if humanity can get its head out of the trash.

Worst bit is that I'm all for bio-domes, like the space they would save and allow us to grow food without occupying surface area is amazing idea but much like the Italy Floating City Project, an idea that sounds good is only as good as the effort and work put into it, and as far as I can tell the Italy Floating City Project lasted about a year before it was scrapped due to both funding and lack of materials to make large hexagonal shaped floating artificial islands.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Zebrant a écrit :

Heitor Villa-Lobos a écrit :

Uhum... go eat some bacon fried on butter for a few decades and tell us then how that went.

Go ahead and consume zero cholesterol for a few decades and tell us then how it went.

I wish!

My body stocks up on bad cholesterol and I have a hard time giving up cheese.

If I manage to, I'll let you know.
You know... if you don't actually do what I said. ; )

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Caldari Military Sly Succubus a écrit :

...

I don't know what you're on, or if its locally grown, but I want some.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

Heitor Villa-Lobos a écrit :

Caldari Military Sly Succubus a écrit :

...

I don't know what you're on, or if its locally grown, but I want some.

I'm high on logic and actual science, no need to be rude mate.

[hai, how are you :)]

Caldari Military Sly Succubus a écrit :

Heitor Villa-Lobos a écrit :

I don't know what you're on, or if its locally grown, but I want some.

I'm high on logic and actual science, no need to be rude mate.

Block him, that's what he does to others when he says something stupid and gets a response.

[xDDD]

Holografix a écrit :

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/11/twin-diet-vegan-cardiovascular.html

Also I just have to point it out:
Study released JUST IN TIME for the that UN Organization (FAO) to tell us to "urge" us to eat less meat. Wow what a coincidence and totally not part of an agenda.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Noxλ2 a écrit :

SlowMango a écrit :

Further proving my statement. Thank you.

Right, continue to corner yourself backwards with these combination of words and phrases that you choose to follow that only create the self delusion of superiority. And what you were told to think or tricked to think will be no different than a broken record.

I don't think I'm superior. That's the difference

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Caldari Military Sly Succubus a écrit :

Heitor Villa-Lobos a écrit :

I don't know what you're on, or if its locally grown, but I want some.

I'm high on logic and actual science, no need to be rude mate.

Oh, I was sure you were joking! I am sorry! Hahah

You don't need all of that futuristic things. We already produce more food than we can eat. We throw huge amounts away, while people starve.

The meat production is also extremely wasteful on resources. We have more than enough farmable lands and more than advanced enough distribution technology.

We lack a proper socioeconomic system that values all terrestrial life, including that of the starving human.

Like I said before: there are amazing agroflorestal models developed in Brazil, even in partnership with major European institutions, gathering dust on universities' shelves.

We have regenerative technology. We don't need to sci-fi it up. We need to break the incentives that the wasteful meat industry has to keep growing.

EDIT: To make clear, I've said many times there isn't one magical solution. I never said "lets grow all food underground". We can definitely grow things like seedlings in dark, packaged, environments. We can, and should, branch out our ways of producing crops for human alimentation.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Noxλ2 a écrit :

SlowMango a écrit :

I don't think I'm superior. That's the difference

You don't truly look deep within yourself

Uh huh.

Is the next reply sending me a link to a 'self-help guru'?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Noxλ2 a écrit :

SlowMango a écrit :

Uh huh.

Is the next reply sending me a link to a 'self-help guru'?

Would you rather write a work of fiction with your imagination instead?

I'm liking yours more.

[hai, how are you :)]

Noxλ2 a écrit :

cat staccs a écrit :

meat since 63% of animal species are carnivore 😳

Right, due to the fact animals don't know any better through the food chain. Yet, humans know better and should act as better humans for their planet. For all you know the misery and suffering that continues is from the karma and nature of eating animals.

Do I sense racism? All that talk about 'us' and 'them', and of one group of animals being superior to another....

Humans are predators just like tigers, and eat meat, vegans are gonna have to deal with that :)

[Under there]

thats nice
hamburger time

[hai, how are you :)]

240p Enjoyer a écrit :

thats nice
hamburger time

based

[hai, how are you :)]

Noxλ2 a écrit :

cat staccs a écrit :

but we know better which is why we cook meat, season it, etc... which shows that eating meat isnt a primitive act in itself, the meat industry is SICK but consuming meat is not necessarily, it can be done in a ethical way

Why would you rather consume a dead animal that offers no vitality and to think the fear and suffering of that dead animal isn't going to transfer over to you? Why not consume something that is known to be good for overall health? See the way you're going to look or continue to view it only shows humanity deserves the punishment.

That's some religious sh1eeet. I think the same when I eat a poor carrot tbh, that carrot had so much life and happiness left in it before it was yanked out of the ground just to satisfy a human's greedy vitamin A needs.