zaporizhia nuclear power plant

[76561198836691314]

is it going to explode? when? there is suspiciously no info.

[Vertigo]

I still remember when russian troops were controlling chernobyl and were digging trenches in the radioactive soil...

They were told by the ukranians, that this would be a very bad Idea.

Unsurprisingly they all got radiation sickness.

[Xautos]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Auckes:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Pieshaman:

why keep tell fairytales that not happening.
is this cause all you have is russian tv?

Russian news are banned in europe and the "free" world.

just those who broadcast propaganda and putin's twisted nonsense. those journalists and media companies that aren't in putin's corner and have to be careful what they write are welcomed, unfortunately the majority of those are political opponents and dissidents and most of those have been locked up or not in Russia any more.

[Auckes]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Xautos:

just those who broadcast propaganda and putin's twisted nonsense. those journalists and media companies that aren't in putin's corner and have to be careful what they write are welcomed, unfortunately the majority of those are political opponents and dissidents and most of those have been locked up or not in Russia any more.

Whatever helps you sleep easy at night. And god forbid, never bother to inspect whether or not the other side tells the truth or not; we only need to swallow whatever our local TV-set reports!

Easy, scripted, premade, others doing the thinking and the picking FOR us, WITHOUT us. "Free" World my @ss

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

From what I could find, the power plant has been shutdown since last year and the only functioning unit in the entire facility is one of the reactors running in Hot Shutdown to vent steam, apparently the invasion and shelling on both sides has caused damage to the building including a hole punched in the roof of one of the buildings (idk which one tho)

So its safe, especially with the confirmation that one reactor is the only part running in Hot Shutdown to vent steam from the rest of the facility

[L1qu1dator]

Another Chernobyl would be the new peak of human stupidity, and frankly I can't wait for it to happen.

[Xautos]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Auckes:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Xautos:

just those who broadcast propaganda and putin's twisted nonsense. those journalists and media companies that aren't in putin's corner and have to be careful what they write are welcomed, unfortunately the majority of those are political opponents and dissidents and most of those have been locked up or not in Russia any more.

Whatever helps you sleep easy at night. And god forbid, never bother to inspect whether or not the other side tells the truth or not; we only need to swallow whatever our local TV-set reports!

Easy, scripted, premade, others doing the thinking and the picking FOR us, WITHOUT us. "Free" World my @ss

what ever makes me sleep at night? i'm providing a potential point of view, if i agree with it or not i don't care. so shoving your nonsense on me is what makes you sleep at night? if not, then what are you doing?

[davidb11]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Vertigo:

I still remember when russian troops were controlling chernobyl and were digging trenches in the radioactive soil...

They were told by the ukranians, that this would be a very bad Idea.

Unsurprisingly they all got radiation sickness.

THat sounds like Russia back in the 80s.

So, i'm a bit out of the loop here. A nuclear power plant where?
They're really hard to break and destroy, for obvious reasons.

And there's no gain for blowing them up ever.
ALso, might technically trigger the Nuclear/biological/chemical warfare ban.
Which automatically triggers a limited form of MAD. Which is something everyone avoids.
Nuclear war is bad for the economy. :P

[76561198836691314]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Auckes:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Xautos:

just those who broadcast propaganda and putin's twisted nonsense. those journalists and media companies that aren't in putin's corner and have to be careful what they write are welcomed, unfortunately the majority of those are political opponents and dissidents and most of those have been locked up or not in Russia any more.

Whatever helps you sleep easy at night. And god forbid, never bother to inspect whether or not the other side tells the truth or not; we only need to swallow whatever our local TV-set reports!

Easy, scripted, premade, others doing the thinking and the picking FOR us, WITHOUT us. "Free" World my @ss

i told you to get out of my thread and you did exactly the opposite.
this is russian slave mentality, people, look and learn.
he thinks himself a rebel or something, but in reality he is 100% gullible.

now keep barking, Auckes, i want to read more russian propaganda.

[Ulfrinn]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Auckes:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Pieshaman:

why keep tell fairytales that not happening.
is this cause all you have is russian tv?

Russian news are banned in europe and the "free" world. OUR media used to bash ukraine, back in the day (2014); they even tried to link our alt-right parties with ukranian neonazis, to besmear far right wingers, because they had been on a rise. OUR media hosted the very recent, Zelenski-Zaluzny interviews and try to cover their infight. As i asked many time to various adamant ukranian "defenders" before: "Where were you in 2014, how old had you been then and why you weren't watching western news, at the time"?

Ursprungligen skrivet av steven1mac:

Could the plant be targeted by either side, yes, as the destruction dam has showed previously. However I do not expect it, since that would make a significant chunk of land unusable and draw the rest of the major powers into the war.

Russians occupy it. Attacking it would be akin to suicide. Common logic dictates as much as that. Also, in the 4 annexed regions, russian ancestry ex-ukranian civilians reside, the now known as "russian autonomists". Wouldn't it be pretty stupid to make their habitat radioactive?

I'm not sure if banning outside media is something to be proud of though. Seems North Korea and China do the same thing and people criticize them for it.

[xDDD]

No. Bad things never happen to Nuclear Power Plants.
Especially not in Ukraine and ESPECIALLY not in Chernobyl.

[MinionJoe]

The Zaporizhia nuclear power plant is a pressurized water reactor. They don't explode. Not that the media seems to care in their reporting.

[davidb11]

Ursprungligen skrivet av MinionJoe:

The Zaporizhia nuclear power plant is a pressurized water reactor. They don't explode. Not that the media seems to care in their reporting.

Nuclear reactors now no longer explode?
What are you saying now exactly?

Because every nuclear reactor ever made has a very minute chance of having a meltdown.
And said meltdown is basically going to be bad.
And if someone fires explosives at the reactor, it will explode...

So, eh?
Things tend to explode when someone blows them up. :P
it doesn't matter what material it's made out of, or the type of reactor.

[Ulfrinn]

Heck, y'all should see fast sodium reactors that are cooled by liquid sodium. They don't even need water. You can bury them underground in bedrock and never need to worry about coolant. Too bad you can't actually build those in most western countries because of strict regulations enforced by people who do not want you to have access to cheap, clean energy, and the disinformation they spread to keep you from wanting it.

Some more info about new reactors... Current reactors can only use about 2% of the energy contained within a nuclear fuel rod. New reactor technology can actually use about 95% of that energy. That means we have more energy in those "spent" rods currently stored underground to power most the western world for the next 1000 years just going to waste. And the way they work is when they do fail, they fail in a way that stops fission without meltdown. A reactor small enough to fit in a 2-car garage can power a city of 20K. This means you could replace a lot of smaller plants, relay stations, and power lines of an aging infrastructure which also makes it more robust from attacks and disasters since power can be localized. A utility pole going down 40 miles away won't kill power for a 20,000 people.

[Birds]

Wow so as soon as we've upgraded the infrastructure we'll be having wars over...deposits of nuclear waste.

[davidb11]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ulfrinn:

Heck, y'all should see fast sodium reactors that are cooled by liquid sodium. They don't even need water. You can bury them underground in bedrock and never need to worry about coolant. Too bad you can't actually build those in most western countries because of strict regulations enforced by people who do not want you to have access to cheap, clean energy, and the disinformation they spread to keep you from wanting it.

Some more info about new reactors... Current reactors can only use about 2% of the energy contained within a nuclear fuel rod. New reactor technology can actually use about 95% of that energy. That means we have more energy in those "spent" rods currently stored underground to power most the western world for the next 1000 years just going to waste. And the way they work is when they do fail, they fail in a way that stops fission without meltdown. A reactor small enough to fit in a 2-car garage can power a city of 20K. This means you could replace a lot of smaller plants, relay stations, and power lines of an aging infrastructure which also makes it more robust from attacks and disasters since power can be localized. A utility pole going down 40 miles away won't kill power for a 20,000 people.

Please don't spread misinformation.
No one is against cheap or clean energy, and those nuclear reactors, thorium or otherwise, are available to be made as soon as the technology allows it at a reliable way. I don't know of a currently made Thorium reactor.

Also, not how nuclear fuel rods work, the 2% thing.
If it was that small, they'd be very little of the bad kind of radiation in them when they are stored for their initial 20 years underwater.
:P

It's a specific isotope of Uranium that a nuclear reactor requires.