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Mr_Blank Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:11am
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There is no best decade for anything
A product’s quality is not decided by the technology or the status quo of its time, rather a products quality is dictated by talented people getting the time and effort they need to make the product good.

People say movies peaked in the 80s. While I agree that there are many a great film from the 80s, such as dead poets society, the untouchables (one of my favourite crime dramas ever, actually), raging bull, aliens, raiders of the lost ark, and so many others, that doesn’t mean that decades content is enjoyed by everyone other than me.

while a movies quality is objective (whether or not dialogue is good, whether or not cinematography is interesting, whether or not the music and score are appropriate for the scenes, etc.) a persons outlook on it is subjective. I could love the 1987 predator movie for its campy dialouge and imaginative monster design and action (for its time) many people can and are completely free to disagree with me, as there’s a lot wrong with the movie. Even if a decade has a lineup of quality movies, they may not be enjoyed by the viewers.

Here’s the worst part: this argument can be applied to any decade, so it’s not an objective fact that one decade is better than other in terms of a product, unless of course that product does not exist. I’ll explain that now.

The 80s are great for movies, yes, but how about silence if the lambs, schindlers list, the last of the mohicans, toy story, the fugitive, titanic, and Forrest Gump? All fantastic movies that all came out in the 90s. However of course, someone may love all these 80s movies and hate these 90s movies, or vice versa. And again, the quality is dictated by the people, because as good as these 90s movies are in terms of newer tech, it’s not like the 80s movies are any less relatable or enjoyable just because it’s dated technology.

The same can be applied to video games. The 2010s were fantastic decade for video games, with red dead 2, sekiro shadows die twice, Witcher 3, bloodborne, breath of the wild, GTA V, the last of us, Detroit become human, and so many other games: all having objective quality, but all having valid criticism toward them for someone to form their subjective opinion. And now let’s factor in the 2000s: halo: CE, half life 2, portal, uncharted 2, Metroid prime, knights of the old republic, metal gear solid 3, gta vice city, legend of Zelda majoras mask, elder scrolls oblivion, super Mario sunshine: all fantastic games as well with

So you see how easily this argument can be twisted and turned, how quickly someone’s defense of a decade can be ruined? The ten year span of a time that movies, games, music, art, car brands, and so much more has absolutley nothing to do with the individual products money. Even if you calculate how many objectively qualitative products came out each decade, it doesn’t matter because all of these products are valid for someone to make their own opinion on the product. In the end, the “decade” is most likely used to organize these products for historical and analytical purposes, not to compare what 10 years had the best of <product name here>.

TLDR: there is no best decade for music, movies, video games, etc. because while a products quality is objective (in some ways), a persons outlook on it is entirely their own to make. That and our profess of technology has to be utilized by talented people to actually make good products, so a talented people working with what they had in the 1960s can make something better or on par with something someone has made in the future as well.
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potato Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by Mr_Blank:
TLDR: there is no best decade for music, movies, video games, etc.
but there is
Last edited by potato; Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:13am
[ T h e B o s s ] Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:14am 
Whatever helps you sleep at night, i guess. :JoeySmile:
It doesn't matter. We're all going to die.
potato Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:21am 
Originally posted by Abaddon the Despoiler:
It doesn't matter. We're all going to die.
not me, potato is forever
Mr_Blank Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by Abaddon the Despoiler:
It doesn't matter. We're all going to die.
Is my take so good that your going off topic or if it that bad that you don’t care
Ruckman_Void Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:26am 
Han fired first
It was murder
He's a scoundrel after all

You don't get that in 2023 that's for sure!
Dutchgamer1982 Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:42am 
there are best decadea for any product including games.

ofcourse a decline is never instant and some good will come out after a peak even though the general trend is down.

for gaming the peak is seen as the late 90s.. likely 1998 with the decafe before and after the rise and fall.


first pc technology needed to advance enough to allow games.
but after the peak big capital came in..
that in turn changed what made profit. before a quality game release made or broke you.
today marketing is far more important than the product.

as such games declined.

depending on what genre of games you like the decline did happen sooner or later.

adventure games originaly the biggest game genre in the 80s?and early 00s dropped off the first.. relocating to childrens games in the late 90s and dying off arpund 2000..

RTS and TBS once the biggest genre essentually died around 2005.

RPG held on to around 2008.. before it effectively died..

even MORPG is on the decline

shooters and racing games I never cared for much at all..

true other genres rose like the minecraft influenced sandbox genre..
but it is not close to what we once had.


look to 1998 to 2002
look at RTS, TBS and RPG releases in those years.. look now.. you see a massive decline in number of releases AND quality.
gza Nov 29, 2023 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by Abaddon the Despoiler:
It doesn't matter. We're all going to die.

True.
TwisterCat Nov 29, 2023 @ 10:06am 
An advancement in technology or culture is rarely resisted, if it makes life easier.

Take for instance, AI art. You have a large wave of people who think it's the future.

The problem is, not all advancements are good. Sometimes, you'd need to go back to another decade to be free of said *improvements*

Styles also change, much more rapidly. Some older styles require a lot more effort, but achieve something wonderful. Why do you think people love to visit Venice?

So, I think there are best decades for *some* things. We may call each others' taste subjective, but there is a general medium on what was best, and when.

Most people would agree folk music was best in the 60's, for example. It's safe to agree on that. If I were to be a bit more prickly, name a better decade for Ponzi schemes than the 1910's? You can't! :winter2019joyfultearsdog:
Ruckman_Void Nov 29, 2023 @ 10:09am 
Well after a few other threads, I have come to the conclusion that there is

The best decade for Agadoo is the 80's

And I don't think there is any reasonable mind that can demonstrate a fallacy with this concept
Masque Nov 29, 2023 @ 12:55pm 
The best decade for bootleg moonshine was teh 1930s.

You can't deny this.
invision2212 Nov 29, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
90’s rock, metal, alternative, punk, was at its peak. Todays music is trash
craigsters Nov 29, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
I don't know, I'd like to live in 1976-77 again, my childhood, those were good years, fun at the beach and sand dunes and other stuff hard to explain that were fun!..
Your_White_Knight Nov 29, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Mr_Blank:
There is no best decade for anything

A product’s quality is not decided by the technology or the status quo of its time, rather a products quality is dictated by talented people getting the time and effort they need to make the product good.

People say movies peaked in the 80s. While I agree that there are many a great film from the 80s, such as dead poets society, the untouchables (one of my favourite crime dramas ever, actually), raging bull, aliens, raiders of the lost ark, and so many others, that doesn’t mean that decades content is enjoyed by everyone other than me.

while a movies quality is objective (whether or not dialogue is good, whether or not cinematography is interesting, whether or not the music and score are appropriate for the scenes, etc.) a persons outlook on it is subjective. I could love the 1987 predator movie for its campy dialouge and imaginative monster design and action (for its time) many people can and are completely free to disagree with me, as there’s a lot wrong with the movie. Even if a decade has a lineup of quality movies, they may not be enjoyed by the viewers.

Here’s the worst part: this argument can be applied to any decade, so it’s not an objective fact that one decade is better than other in terms of a product, unless of course that product does not exist. I’ll explain that now.

The 80s are great for movies, yes, but how about silence if the lambs, schindlers list, the last of the mohicans, toy story, the fugitive, titanic, and Forrest Gump? All fantastic movies that all came out in the 90s. However of course, someone may love all these 80s movies and hate these 90s movies, or vice versa. And again, the quality is dictated by the people, because as good as these 90s movies are in terms of newer tech, it’s not like the 80s movies are any less relatable or enjoyable just because it’s dated technology.

The same can be applied to video games. The 2010s were fantastic decade for video games, with red dead 2, sekiro shadows die twice, Witcher 3, bloodborne, breath of the wild, GTA V, the last of us, Detroit become human, and so many other games: all having objective quality, but all having valid criticism toward them for someone to form their subjective opinion. And now let’s factor in the 2000s: halo: CE, half life 2, portal, uncharted 2, Metroid prime, knights of the old republic, metal gear solid 3, gta vice city, legend of Zelda majoras mask, elder scrolls oblivion, super Mario sunshine: all fantastic games as well with

So you see how easily this argument can be twisted and turned, how quickly someone’s defense of a decade can be ruined? The ten year span of a time that movies, games, music, art, car brands, and so much more has absolutley nothing to do with the individual products money. Even if you calculate how many objectively qualitative products came out each decade, it doesn’t matter because all of these products are valid for someone to make their own opinion on the product. In the end, the “decade” is most likely used to organize these products for historical and analytical purposes, not to compare what 10 years had the best of <product name here>.

TLDR: there is no best decade for music, movies, video games, etc. because while a products quality is objective (in some ways), a persons outlook on it is entirely their own to make. That and our profess of technology has to be utilized by talented people to actually make good products, so a talented people working with what they had in the 1960s can make something better or on par with something someone has made in the future as well.

All that text wall just to be so very wrong... amazing
Your_White_Knight Nov 29, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by craigsters:
I don't know, I'd like to live in 1976-77 again, my childhood, those were good years, fun at the beach and sand dunes and other stuff hard to explain that were fun!..

:steamthis: I don't know about doing it again... but it was good times... :steamthumbsup:
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