Why follow Abrahamic faiths?

[apathy]

Are Western people in denial about how absolutely insane they are?

Jesus hated us. He called us gentiles, a bunch of dogs, unfit for anything but the crumbs that fall off the master's table. He didn't come to bring peace, but a sword from his Abba. He wants us all in Hell.

Muhammad hated us. He called us infidels, idolaters, and waged his jihad, his holy war against us. He didn't come for peace, but to force everyone to submit to the will of his Allah. He wants us all in Hell.

Why worship and follow, someone who hates you?
For the West, the choice is an easy one to make: Reject Abraham. Return to Pagan.

[Tonepoet]

Eh? I doubt Jesus Love thy Enemies as Thyself Parable of the Good Samaritan Christ hated anybody. Not even the people who murdered him. He begged God to forgive them while on the cross. If he called non-jews Gentiles, that's 'cause that's what they are. Plus he said it in another language 2023 years ago, so some leeway needs to be afforded on that basis.

Also, you can't exactly choose what you believe, because what's true is true regardless of what you would prefer to be true. Sometimes the truth ain't so pretty, and can sometimes even be described as the ugly truth. Most people seem to choose their religion at a time when they are young, impressionable and taught the oral and written traditions coming from people they trust. Mostly family members and neighbors. That is kind of what the words belief and faith mean. Taking information given to you by others for granted.

Something does not even have to be true in order for you to believe it, and similarly you can disbelieve the absolute truth. Just ask any child who has been blamed for something another child did.

[xDDD]

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Pagans were really just worshiping fallen angels (and demons) described by the true faith.

what makes christianity more true than the other religions ??

Personally I believe that Christianity has it right due to Jesus, but I think most religions get some things right. That's why there are so many completely-equivalent parallels between all the religions.
They literally describe the same thing in different ways.

[Enigmatic]

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in the end times you can either die by the sword or the plague.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2010&version=ESV

Jesus and his army of disciples changed the world.
They were also persecuted and chased to the edge of the known world.
Just look at John. I'd recommend going to Damascus to see his resting place.

Have you heard of dying by "Euthanasia" in this modern time?

Zaraza

[Spirit]

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what makes christianity more true than the other religions ??

Personally I believe that Christianity has it right due to Jesus, but I think most religions get some things right. That's why there are so many completely-equivalent parallels between all the religions.
They literally describe the same thing in different ways.

romans crucified criminals. to them jesus was just another crazy criminal

[Incarnate]

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Pagan gods arent all that great tho, just look at the Greek Gods

Gods reflect the biases, worldview, and knowledge of the groups that worship them. What a coincidence, huh?

[Bomb Shot]

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Have you heard of dying by "Euthanasia" in this modern time?

Zaraza

I meant to die painless by medical care from severe disease or injury.

Like an injection that can put you to sleep and stop your life system without pain.

[apathy]

Amazing, the character is telling you what they think of you, and you won't accept it.


When Jesus sent out the Twelve, He said, “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:5)

Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”
But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to dogs.” (Matthew 15:25)

A racist man is your saviour? Wow, Heaven truly is collapsing in on itself like Laputa: Castle in the Sky.

[gugnihr]

Religions in general are bad. I don't know much about pagan cults, I imagine them to be more intriguing and interesting than Abrahamic faiths but I don't really know for sure. As fairy tales maybe they are more interesting, which would be nice, but religionsare bad and what we really nee is to get rid of religions in general.
People can believe what they want individually but just don't let them organize in groups because they always become arrogant and try to oppress other people when they do that. We need to leave organized religions behind.

[Bomb Shot]

All religions are made up. No dead people can tell you anything.

No one know before birth. No one know after death. No one know god.

[Your_White_Knight]

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Amazing, the character is telling you what they think of you, and you won't accept it.


When Jesus sent out the Twelve, He said, “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:5)

Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”
But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to dogs.” (Matthew 15:25)

A racist man is your saviour? Wow, Heaven truly is collapsing in on itself like Laputa: Castle in the Sky.

As usual... gaslighting and pure up propaganda... there's more then just 15:25 one needs to read the ~ENTIRE~ thing rather then just try to spin a lie..

" "But she came and knelt before him, saying 'Lord, help me.' He answered, 'It is not fair to take the children's food and throw it to the dogs.' She said, 'Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master's table.'

Then Jesus answered her, 'Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.' And her daughter was healed instantly"

(Matthew 15:25-28)

[apathy]

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As usual... gaslighting and pure up propaganda... there's more then just 15:25 one needs to read the ~ENTIRE~ thing rather then just try to spin a lie..

Then why call a non-Jew a dog to start with?

He called her what he thought of her, unclean, unworthy, material, a hylic without a soul.

It doesn't matter how it ends, what mattered was what he thought of us. And what a sh*tty opinion of other peoples he had.

Why call yourselves followers of Christ when you're actually followers of Saul/Paul?

[Enigmatic]

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I don't know much about pagan cults, I imagine them to be more intriguing and interesting than Abrahamic faiths

All Hail Christ Ahn Sahng-hongnim.
Prepare to be intrigued.

[Hobbit XIII]

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Religions in general are bad. I don't know much about pagan cults, I imagine them to be more intriguing and interesting than Abrahamic faiths but I don't really know for sure. As fairy tales maybe they are more interesting, which would be nice, but religionsare bad and what we really nee is to get rid of religions in general.
People can believe what they want individually but just don't let them organize in groups because they always become arrogant and try to oppress other people when they do that. We need to leave organized religions behind.

Ignoring any supernatural elements to them.

They served in ancient times a way of passing down knowledge and group bonding a must have for survival.

Stars had names and adventures about them so people could navigate.
Everything had a spirit / tale to it so we would learn to respect it and know what it is good for.
Mistletoe being a famous lesson.
It was also entertainment, imagine being around aroaring fire with everybody in head dresses they had spent much free time making and at the night of the big party you get a song / tale about an eagle taking flight and the actions going with it a sort of dance that catches on.

Religions are in theory what separated humans from animals, it gave our evolving brains something to think of beyond immediate survival an exercise as they say the brain is a muscle that must be exercised, this with cooked food helped grow our intellect.

[Bomb Shot]

Religion is not a useful tool to cause racism and war.

[xDDD]

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Religion is not a useful tool to cause racism and war.

Racism and war happens naturally. A Secular society would not be free of either.