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Heatblizzard Nov 22, 2023 @ 12:23am
What is the fastest CPU's for speed sensitive Windows 98/98 NON Dos games before reaching their upper limits?
My question is based on NON DOS Windows games that are still CPU sensitive meaning games that have bad programming where the faster the CPU is the worst the controls will be till perhaps the game crashes to desktop or maybe outright refuses to run at all. One such game was Gus's Adventure where birds chirp too fast and you can't control the mouse very well.
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Tristin Nov 22, 2023 @ 2:19am 
Your question is very weird because you'd first have to find a game that'd run in OS 98 that would do just that. Certainly nothing that is incompatible to OS 98. And... what developer aims to create such thing?

But my guess is when CPU speed exceed RAM's threshold it would crash. I'm not going to do the math for you.

What, you trying to run modern games in a relic? Likely will have difficult time even to start it due compatibility issues.
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オナニー Nov 22, 2023 @ 2:22am 
i like your funny words
kilésengati Nov 22, 2023 @ 2:40am 
According to Wikipedia, Windows 98 starts having issues with CPUs above 2.1 GHz, doesn't really like more than 512 MB of RAM and generally has issues with larger hard drives. Also you can run dual-core processors at best, but the RAM limit is crippling them.
But realistically, you'd never run that OS with such recent CPUs. The few programs that need Windows 98 because they run neither on DOS (Box) nor NT-based systems (or on Linux through WINE) likely couldn't really take advantage of such CPUs anyway, as they were made during a time were CPUs usually were still sub-GHz.
If your PC is powerful enough, maybe you can spare yourself a dime on retro hardware and emulate a PC running Windows 98 instead.

There are also plenty of sources on the web. Like this video for example:
https://youtu.be/7D01We2aAu8
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Heatblizzard Nov 26, 2023 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by Cadillac V-Series.R LMDh 5.5L V8:
i like your funny words

That's because I don't speak nor type smart phone language doing U instead of You. Look at different people's form posts from 2015 and earlier. you'll be shocked at how different people spoke like an internal brain switch occurred. Actual sentences and not rushed one liners.
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Heatblizzard Nov 26, 2023 @ 5:03am 
Originally posted by Tristin:
Your question is very weird because you'd first have to find a game that'd run in OS 98 that would do just that. Certainly nothing that is incompatible to OS 98. And... what developer aims to create such thing?

But my guess is when CPU speed exceed RAM's threshold it would crash. I'm not going to do the math for you.

What, you trying to run modern games in a relic? Likely will have difficult time even to start it due compatibility issues.

One such game is Sim Copter where there is tons of inability problems depending on CPU speed.
There's a patch to make it work on Windows 10 or above called Sim Copter X but you can't do career mode on it. It's that bad but on Players Choice mode you can fly imported cities from Sim City and Sim City 2000 and have free adjustments over emergency calls.

In fact having a CPU too fast even if career mode didn't panic crashed you'd have too many emergency calls happening at once since the timing is tied again to CPU speed and good luck keeping control of your helicopter.
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Pieshaman Nov 26, 2023 @ 5:21am 
long time ago I had pentium mmx 166 mhz with 98/ME
it had 4mb S3 virge chip + a voodoo2 3dfx card
played lot of games on this.
Heatblizzard Nov 26, 2023 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
long time ago I had pentium mmx 166 mhz with 98/ME
it had 4mb S3 virge chip + a voodoo2 3dfx card
played lot of games on this.

PCEM will be a match made in heaven for you then!
Pieshaman Nov 26, 2023 @ 5:28am 
Originally posted by Heatblizzard:
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
long time ago I had pentium mmx 166 mhz with 98/ME
it had 4mb S3 virge chip + a voodoo2 3dfx card
played lot of games on this.

PCEM will be a match made in heaven for you then!

yes i used emulators to play tie fighter and wing commander again xd
Heatblizzard Nov 26, 2023 @ 5:31am 
Originally posted by Pieshaman:
Originally posted by Heatblizzard:

PCEM will be a match made in heaven for you then!

yes i used emulators to play tie fighter and wing commander again xd

PCEM can emulate those exact configs if your host PC is powerful enough. I can emulate up to PII at 260mhz constantly but certain games (ironically they aren't even graphically demanding) will cause inconsistent stutters while some demanding games work just fine)

Edmark games for some reason are a massive resource hog.despite no 3D acceleration at all!
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kilésengati Nov 26, 2023 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by Heatblizzard:
Originally posted by Pieshaman:

yes i used emulators to play tie fighter and wing commander again xd

PCEM can emulate those exact configs if your host PC is powerful enough. I can emulate up to PII at 260mhz constantly but certain games (ironically they aren't even graphically demanding) will cause inconsistent stutters while some demanding games work just fine)

Edmark games for some reason are a massive resource hog.despite no 3D acceleration at all!

I wouldn't be surprised if they ran like rubbish on original hardware as well and were only saved by the CRTs afterglow somewhat.

For example, the original Test Drive Unlimited suffered from massive stutters on my parent's Pentium turd, on my Core 2 Quad + 8800 GTS, on my i5-meh + GTX 660 and still does on my i7-bling + RTX 3080 - and if we could emulate period-correct high-end hardware, it would still stutter like hell. It doesn't matter on what hardware you run it, they messed up frame timing in the development process and there are only some fixes that reduce this, but it never goes away entirely. The PS2 version is the better game imho anyway.

And sometimes, we remember our favourite childhood games better than they actually were.
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