Why does the "woke" culture bother so many people?

[Franklin]

What's wrong with the "woke" culture?

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lankaras a écrit :

Bomb Shot a écrit :

Don't hate different if it's not harmful.

It is, in many ways. I've seen teens on reddit asking questions because they became confused about their gender for example. And the woke will even encourage this and say that it is a good thing.

In society that people can get along. They don't have to ask, anti or against anyone.

Sound like it's a difficult society.

[ZZZZZ]

people hate woke cause they get told to.. theres no rational reason

[GloriousZote]

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ratpuke a écrit :

it's retarded

Don't hate different if it's not harmful.

And if it is...?

[GloriousZote]

This thread shows you why, one side of the argument brings logic to the table, the other only brings assumptions, pretend they can read minds, or simply gives an answer with no argument to back it up.

[Pocahawtness]

There is nothing wrong with woke. On the contrary, any reasonable person should be woke - considerate to the thoughts and beliefs of others.

The problem is that some politicians and companies have gone too far and the meaning of the word has now changed. Many now associate it with "overly considerate of others, to the expense of Western 'normality'". And there definitely is something wrong with that.

It always happens with extremists. There is nothing wrong with feminism until the extremists got their hands on it and turned it in to a hatred of men. Now the extremists turn woke in to a hatred of middle aged white CIS men.

It's all just crazy.

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GloriousZote a écrit :

This thread shows you why, one side of the argument brings logic to the table, the other only brings assumptions, pretend they can read minds, or simply gives an answer with no argument to back it up.

I don't know about your politic. But one day I may understand.

[Tex]

Woke crap is just fantasy crap. These people who push woke-ism do not live in reality, are mentally ill, and belong in an asylum for the rest of their lives.

[Locke]

Its fundamentally based on lies about nature.

Its why it has to become ever more forceful beating people over the head as it is completely against nature and logic.

And as it fails they double down as it is a warped religion.

And they never argue in bad faith, "why do you care" they say when you notice, well it matters enough for them to beat you over the head with it.

And fundamentally they don't build anything, they just steal something and then wear its skin. Whether its movies or anything else.

They don't care if its good, because the motivation is revenge.

[gugnihr]

For me:

1) it is hypocrite and manipulative. It is not fair and it just want to exploit past injustices to do even more unfair injustices and / or scams (often activists are just scammers trying to gain money and power and don't care about the things they obsessively talk about: it is just work for them)

2) it uses methods thatr are uneffective and stupid. For example trying to indoctrinate kids and teens at school. Teachers at that age are generally seen as enemies, pathetic losers and so on. They tell something to students and the students just think "shut up yoo stupid fool and let me go home and play games". You don't "edicate" kids that way, you only annoy them. Or they try to indoctrinate kids making "woke" movies... well, too bad that movies made that way are incredibly annoying, boring and unbearable... people just hate those movies (and therefore their message too), you don't change their mind that way, you only annoy them and create pointless and stupid controversy.

Just to make a practical example, think about the comparison between LGBT contents in games like Mass Effect or Last of us 2 and what Skyrim do instead.
Have you ever heard anybody complain about Skyrim or the homosexual options in Skyrim? No? You know why not? Because Bethesda did it the right way.
Skyrim is not woke, it is just a good game that give people more choices without bothering those who do not care about those choices. This is a good thing to do, this is what "woke" media always do wrong instead, their priority is to bother everybody who is not 100% exactly their target audience (and also some of those who would be supposed to be their target audience too, believe me). This is why I personally hate woke media.

[Azza ☠]

Tex a écrit :

Woke crap is just fantasy crap. These people who push woke-ism do not live in reality, are mentally ill, and belong in an asylum for the rest of their lives.

The same can be said about the 'anti-woke' however...

There's two separate extremes, just as bad as each other, to be aware of. Just don't be blinded into a mob mentality of not even questioning it on one side to be against the other, because they are just as bad, if not worst.

The 'anti-woke' is currently more of a drama increasing issue for clickbait views and sideshow distractions, compared to the actual 'woke' culture itself.

Given saying that a few 'woke' individuals can actually be nuts too, it's mostly just a stereotype.

I personally like to mock both stereotyped stupidity, but most assume I'm woke, not that I could care less.

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Pirate☠️Pocah a écrit :

considerate to the thoughts and beliefs of others.

Woke is exactly the opposite of this, you MUST fall in line with THEIR way of seeing things or you are a "bigot". How deeply hypnotized you must be to not see this.

[Violeta]

America has never been more woke, and its never been more corrupt. And the other countries like china and russia that are not woke, are speeding ahead like a rocket.

Wokeism, progressivism, destroyed my country on the altar of equality, thats about making some more equal than others. And now thanks to it, fears of a civil war are looming, and a default/hyper inflation from the welfare system thats bankrupt the country because wokism told people to not have kids.

Wokism aka communism always comes back because its free money. And that lasts until the money runs out.

[EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ]

ratpuke a écrit :

EpirusWarriorμολὼνλαβέ a écrit :

All warfare is based on deception. - Sun Tzu

The mantra of the those in charge on the left and the great masses. Propaganda and indoctrination is needed in order to convert and nullify.

Want to not question anything you do as "outsider" thats can raise a brow on questionable ways how you maintain wealth? Thats how you do it get the power/ money and maintain power/ money among your peers. Subversion, propaganda, indoctrination and when you on top have the money and power and network the rest is easy.

what the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about

Subversion and propaganda in case you missed.

[Titus]

"MD" a écrit :

Idiocracy.

It told us what would happen if we let it spiral.

We're too late.

Idiocracy is not close to being realistic, if there were no more educated people then society would end, not just spiral.

[Azza ☠]

Bomb Shot a écrit :

Azza ☠ a écrit :

The same can be said about the 'anti-woke' however...

There's two separate extremes, just as bad as each other, to be aware of. Just don't be blinded into a mob mentality of not even questioning it on one side to be against the other, because they are just as bad, if not worst.

I still don't know what the core of the problem is.

The label 'woke' was just used originally as waking to actual reality. To insult being 'woke' is to suggest you are living an alternative reality.

In issue with a stereotype of being 'woke' is that they assume if you are such and such, then you get more privileges than the others. If you are black, then you get employment over a white person, as such. Complete bs.

Most 'anti-woke' however are driving drama on topics which don't even affect them, to drive click-bait topics and drama on purpose for either profit or as a side-show distraction to cover up something else more important yet corrupted.

Both extremes can be as cringe as each other, but anti-woke actually takes the cake being about 1000 times more than actually required and will slowly kill itself off over time, due to the increased amount of it's stupidity. If it wasn't for the 'anti-woke' forcing it upon you, wouldn't even notice nor really care about the 'woke' culture that doesn't even affect you directly.