I am starting to become convinced we live in a simulation

[Stellar Remnant]

With a few million actual humans jacked into it and a few billion seed AI trying to learn how to be human.

edit: thank you for the free points

[Nülliflower]

yes, it's a simulation running on satan's computer. i'm glad you managed to arrive at this conclusion on your own. come with me, then, we will hack the system and take back the lives he stole from us once and for all.

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Ahh now I understand your problem with it. This is exactly what the so-called rational, scientific people always say. But it is a baseless assumption, so not very scientific at all.

Its just logic, I don't need to go and research it. It's obvious. As obvious as that fairies and elves don't exist. By your "logic" they must do because you can't prove they don't. People would only believe that there are big mysterious things out there because they need to feel special with their "secret knowledge" or they're not able to fathom that the world is just mundane. Its very childish to cling to fantasies.

It is not logic nor obvious. If you can't prove the existence of something, that does not mean that it is not there. You ASSUME that it is not there. Reasoning like this, you are going to say that radio waves obviously do not exist when you have no device to measure them.

And what is even less logical is this psychobabble about "they need something to believe in" and so on. It is baseless and it shows that you are not being rational. You are being emotional because you can't deal with these things.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Like 75% of this thread is just mindless rambling based off of theories and science fiction.

For something to be considered possible we must first achieve it. And as far as reality is concerned we have to yet to even remotely design anything close.

AI is far more limited than you think for example.

You also can't just "scan" a brain and somehow that result in copying someone.

All of these ideas stem from fantasy, come back to reality.

[isomorphic_projection]

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yes, it's a simulation running on satan's computer. i'm glad you managed to arrive at this conclusion on your own. come with me, then, we will hack the system and take back the lives he stole from us once and for all.

Already did, i even figured out that a gholem is an Geometric Holographic Object Luminated from an External Module

[Rio]

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yes, it's a simulation running on satan's computer. i'm glad you managed to arrive at this conclusion on your own. come with me, then, we will hack the system and take back the lives he stole from us once and for all.

Oh and what does someone do when their pc is hacked? A full delete and reinstall of the SSD/Hard Drive.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

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Its just logic, I don't need to go and research it. It's obvious. As obvious as that fairies and elves don't exist. By your "logic" they must do because you can't prove they don't. People would only believe that there are big mysterious things out there because they need to feel special with their "secret knowledge" or they're not able to fathom that the world is just mundane. Its very childish to cling to fantasies.

It is not logic nor obvious. If you can't prove the existence of something, that does not mean that it is not there. You ASSUME that it is not there. Reasoning like this, you are going to say that radio waves obviously do not exist when you have no device to measure them.

And what is even less logical is this psychobabble about "they need something to believe in" and so on. It is baseless and it shows that you are not being rational. You are being emotional because you can't deal with these things.

But that's the problem you're ignoring, we don't even know exactly how any of this stuff 'could' work.

We also don't know the limitations of said technology, we're basing everything on current tech and baseless predictions that rarely reflect reality.

Once you step back and read into what science has actually been proving or not. You realize how such a thing is silly and probably impossible in the way that scifi tells us it is.

[permanent name]

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It is not logic nor obvious. If you can't prove the existence of something, that does not mean that it is not there. You ASSUME that it is not there. Reasoning like this, you are going to say that radio waves obviously do not exist when you have no device to measure them.

And what is even less logical is this psychobabble about "they need something to believe in" and so on. It is baseless and it shows that you are not being rational. You are being emotional because you can't deal with these things.

But that's the problem you're ignoring, we don't even know exactly how any of this stuff 'could' work.

We also don't know the limitations of said technology, we're basing everything on current tech and baseless predictions that rarely reflect reality.

Once you step back and read into what science has actually been proving or not. You realize how such a thing is silly and probably impossible in the way that scifi tells us it is.

einstein says the universe would have to be the harddrive as well as the computer, and that they'd be physically inseparable from the simulation itself.

ie particles simulate reality.

[Rio]

Did he see the age when PCs didn't take up entire rooms? I forget when he died.

People used to say all sorts of funny things, such as only needing so much system storage ever.

[isomorphic_projection]

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İlk olarak Nülliflower tarafından gönderildi:

yes, it's a simulation running on satan's computer. i'm glad you managed to arrive at this conclusion on your own. come with me, then, we will hack the system and take back the lives he stole from us once and for all.

Oh and what does someone do when their pc is hacked? A full delete and reinstall of the SSD/Hard Drive.

Hence the great reset, aka nelson mandela effect.

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It is not logic nor obvious. If you can't prove the existence of something, that does not mean that it is not there. You ASSUME that it is not there. Reasoning like this, you are going to say that radio waves obviously do not exist when you have no device to measure them.

And what is even less logical is this psychobabble about "they need something to believe in" and so on. It is baseless and it shows that you are not being rational. You are being emotional because you can't deal with these things.

But that's the problem you're ignoring, we don't even know exactly how any of this stuff 'could' work.

We also don't know the limitations of said technology, we're basing everything on current tech and baseless predictions that rarely reflect reality.

Once you step back and read into what science has actually been proving or not. You realize how such a thing is silly and probably impossible in the way that scifi tells us it is.

Umm what? You are talking about the "Ultra VR simulator"? I was not talking about that, this is about "something which we can't see/prove".

[AD]

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You do know that fiction is not real? You don't sound deep or interesting, you sound ridiculous. Stuff like the Matrix was an analogy for our society, not literal. Next we're going to have posts about 1984 being real too. Urgh...

What a foolish take. Scientists have opined as far as a decade ago that if, in step with Moore's law, that if we could get to the level of matrix-like technology, we are likely living in it already. With the advancements of ai and quantum computing, I think this is a possibility.

Possible? Yes, just as its also possible we are all asleep and dreaming together telepathically. Or like how anti matter may actually be normal matter that travels backwards in time. Likely? Not really, there is no way to really test or validate it.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

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But that's the problem you're ignoring, we don't even know exactly how any of this stuff 'could' work.

We also don't know the limitations of said technology, we're basing everything on current tech and baseless predictions that rarely reflect reality.

Once you step back and read into what science has actually been proving or not. You realize how such a thing is silly and probably impossible in the way that scifi tells us it is.

einstein says the universe would have to be the harddrive as well as the computer, and that they'd be physically inseparable from the simulation itself.

ie particles simulate reality.

People can say a lot of things, just because it was from *insert famous person* doesn't mean it's worth acknowledging beyond their own personal beliefs.

Especially since nothing has ever come of it, people also thought our tech would be far different in our day than it actually is.

[permanent name]

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Did he see the age when PCs didn't take up entire rooms? I forget when he died.

People used to say all sorts of funny things, such as only needing so much system storage ever.

He died in 73 or 77, so yes personal word processors were becoming normalized in high tech fields. The internet was developing in the university systems, and trollbots were already being written and unwittingly interacted with. It was essentially 'modern,' just not as large-scale as mass media phenomenons like UseNet would be. Or Twitter or forums or w/e which are still just the same thing, but with more people.

Our current understanding of particle information theory is that each and every particle has enough potential information states to store the entire universe on it.

[permanent name]

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einstein says the universe would have to be the harddrive as well as the computer, and that they'd be physically inseparable from the simulation itself.

ie particles simulate reality.

People can say a lot of things, just because it was from *insert famous person* doesn't mean it's worth acknowledging beyond their own personal beliefs.

Especially since nothing has ever come of it, people also thought our tech would be far different in our day than it actually is.

nobody believes anything except what important famous people have told them to believe. that's the nature of society. you don't go around believing we live in a sim as a part of an argument with a rogue ai we were trying to escape do you?

idk tesla's vision of the internet was pretty accurate. I think he knew he was being willfully optimistic about it too.

[Vince ✟]

The larger concern would be who the sysop is