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Optimism vs realism vs pessimism
Which one you think is better and why?
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I'm positive that this thread is really pessimistic.
Автор сообщения: Holografix
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Because being realistic is a thing...
lol

it isn't. people are using the word 'realism' like it ties to reality but what they really mean is that they constrain the probable outcomes of every action based on a pessimistic mindset.

Look at post #21 realism is a thing.
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why u habe a f16 on u avatar.....
did have russia has air conduct too has u?

I love fighter jets.

Although this is the only fighter jet avatar that I found on Steam...
pessimism = realism.

(a pessimist generally has a very realistic outlook on the real situation.. while an optimist looks with rose tainted glasses)

however.... while optimism IS delusional...it has health benefits to be ilusional to thing tomorrow everything will be better even if the chance it actually is is near zero it can help people take that 1 in a million gamble pessimists never take..

so while pessimist are realists.
optimists get in the end more done.. even if 99/100 times they won't.
Автор сообщения: Holografix
Автор сообщения: L1qu1dator

Because being realistic is a thing...
lol

it isn't. people are using the word 'realism' like it ties to reality but what they really mean is that they constrain the probable outcomes of every action based on a pessimistic mindset.

Except that I don't constrain anything, It is what it is.
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pessimism = realism.

(a pessimist generally has a very realistic outlook on the real situation.. while an optimist looks with rose tainted glasses)

however.... while optimism IS delusional...it has health benefits to be ilusional to thing tomorrow everything will be better even if the chance it actually is is near zero it can help people take that 1 in a million gamble pessimists never take..

so while pessimist are realists.
optimists get in the end more done.. even if 99/100 times they won't.

People do say that pessimists are more realistic, Realism and pessimism are two different concepts that are often confused with each other.

I think in some situations being an optimist is the best. It depends on the situation though.

I always joke about the "health benefits" thing by saying "well we pessimists don't care about the "health benefits" because we don't want to live in this world anyways". :steammocking:
A lot of what people term the “realist mindset” often comes off as simply apathy, to me.

And I think apathy is often just as a destructive a force as the energy a pessimist might put out into the world.
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Автор сообщения: Holografix
lol

it isn't. people are using the word 'realism' like it ties to reality but what they really mean is that they constrain the probable outcomes of every action based on a pessimistic mindset.

Except that I don't constrain anything, It is what it is.
The rock doesn't talk, neither does the TV. It's your mind that sees it. And sad thing is, TV can parasitize so reality is warped. Viewpoints, perspective, that's the reality. And if you think you can reduce your perceptions to 'actual bedrock' reality, let me tell you, these words you're reading, they're not real.

so in order to cope, people say 'i'm realistic,' and suddenly constrain their world to remove the affect of 'rocks,' or 'TV' to shield themselves from the effects of those affects. That ain't reality buddy. That's constraining your perceptual capacity for coping capabilities.
Отредактировано Holografix; 29 дек. 2023 г. в 19:51
A lot of people are hating realists here, which is surprising...

Now of course people hating pessimists is as expected, but wow I didn't expect so much hatred for realists...
depends on your situation. you should ideally be optimistic, but not all situations allow for meaningful optimism. being able to adapt your behavior when necessary is better than being able to maintain a behavior when it should be changed, we're able to change our outlook on the fly for a very good reason.
Отредактировано 20 hotpockets in my femur; 29 дек. 2023 г. в 22:06
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depends on your situation. you should ideally be optimistic, but not all situations allow for meaningful optimism. being able to adapt your behavior when necessary is better than being able to maintain a behavior when it should be changed, we're able to change our outlook on the fly for a very good reason.
Reality breaks everyone. But for some reason people are brainwashed into believing that their trauma is the 'bedrock' reality. Get a grip people and find some joy in your lives.
Optimism is based. Be the indomitable human spirit the indifferent cruel universe fears. Keep on truck, friends. We're all gonna make it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZooYTwgEo
Most 'optimists' I know are just people who don't want to change, really.
Their mindset is 'everything is gonna be alright' in the sense of 'someone else will fix that someday'... They run along and nothing changes.
Some even hold me back trying to make a change.
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Most 'optimists' I know are just people who don't want to change, really.
Their mindset is 'everything is gonna be alright' in the sense of 'someone else will fix that someday'... They run along and nothing changes.
Some even hold me back trying to make a change.

Yeah, a lot of "optimists" just decide to not fix anything and when someone else points out problems they just shame them and tell them to "be positive", and when someone feels unhappy they like to blame them for being unhappy as if it's their fault for being unhappy. This pisses me off a lot honestly.

It's those types of people that hinder progress actually, because they're the ones that don't try to fix anything.
Отредактировано FighterSoldier; 30 дек. 2023 г. в 9:56
None of them are better or worse than the other.
They are all admirable and show us a way to deal with life's shortcomings

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I’m realistically optimistic about how horrible everything is.
FPBP, as always
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