All religions are man made

[Bomb Shot]

Because religion is a human's word.

Including god, Allah and Buddha.

[Not Big Surprise]

ezekiel 23:20

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Автор сообщения: mai72

Автор сообщения: BLOOD ASYLUM

Only one true religion is Christianity. Atheists have religion, too. They believe people in lab coats and pieces of paper that tell them they are smarter than them. They are generally okay with drug use and are liberal. They don't know what a boy or a girl use (pronouns etc) and the absence of christian morals makes them rationalize incorrectly. IE "Life was found on mars. A human in the womb is not life and can be aborted."

Disagree.

For one, the bible has major issues. Take John for example, which many secular and yes even Christian NT scholars now believe to be forged. No where in the first 3 gospels is Jesus calling himself a god. Its only when we get to John that we notice the change in Jesus tone. He is using phrases like "before Abraham was I am" he is basically calling himself God all throughout John, but in our earlier gospels this is absent. Is it any wonder why Christians love to go to John so much? In addition, we have forgeries in John. The adulterous woman FORGED. In the KJV 5.7-5.9 "There are 3 that bear witness in heaven. The father, the word and the holy spirit. Those 3 are 1." FORGED. In fact, that verse is a 16th century forgery that has been omitted in the NIV. Now why was that forged? Easy..

Two: The trinity is no where to be found in the NT. Church fathers desperately wanted to make Jesus 3:1. because Christians were being accused as being polytheist. As so, they put that little verse John 5:7- 9 in the KJV. Also, Timothy 3:16 is in the same vein. A forged verse by church fathers because they wanted desperately to show Jesus as 3:1. I'll finally add that many NT scholars believe the ending of John to be tacked on as well. The further we go away from the original source, the more likely it isn't correct or forged. John is a much later gospel, and strays seriously away from the earlier 3 gospels.

Three: I'm not going to spend a lot of time here, but there are major contradictions in the gospels. Take Jesus resurrection story. Who saw Jesus when he resurrected? Well that depends on what gospel you read. They all contradict each other, and can't even get the simple things right. Its clearly MAN MADE.

Four: Do we have any 1st person accounts of Jesus resurrection? No we don't. The 500? Who were they? Not a clue. No names are given. Nothing. We know nothing about them. Just one person who recorded that 500 people saw Jesus after death. Well we have thousands of people who saw Elvis after his passing. Was Elvis actually alive? Anyway, the other people in the bible who saw Jesus after his passing are all told in 3rd person. We have NOT ONE individual tell us in the bible who saw Jesus after his passing.

Five: And finally, Jesus predicted that the end was near and was going to come during his life time. Mark 9.1 and Mark 13.30 bear this out. The earliest source material of the bible is very apocalyptic. Our very earliest sources" M, L and Q are dripping with apocalyptic messages and sayings from Jesus. The disciple Paul thought the end was near. He addressed this in his letters. He even tells church leaders and followers to not get married, to not have children, and to not start businesses because he also thought the end was coming soon. And Jesus was going to return. Its been over 2000 years and we are all still waiting.

Mark 9.1 and 13.30 do not state that. Luke, Jesus makes it known in the end days Israel will be destroyed because they never accept him as the Christ. See Revelation. What I notice with a lot of Atheists is they try to find passages and make the contradiction, when there is none.I listened to all of the New Testament last month and was shocked that it was so consistent. I suggest rather than dissect the book and create your contradictions, you read or listen to the new testament.

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ezekiel 23:20

She liked big weens

where it comes from btw
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2023&version=NIV

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Автор сообщения: BLOOD ASYLUM

I listened to all of the New Testament last month and was shocked that it was so consistent. I suggest rather than dissect the book and create your contradictions, you read or listen to the new testament.

It should be consistent. The writers made sure it would be. When the humans that wrote it were all together under the leadership of some counsel to create the New Testament. Using the previous writings they knew about and picking and choosing the parts they wanted to include. A god was never involved in it's creation. Nothing it says is a gods words.

[apathy]

Автор сообщения: BLOOD ASYLUM

Mark 9.1 and 13.30 do not state that. Luke, Jesus makes it known in the end days Israel will be destroyed because they never accept him as the Christ. See Revelation. What I notice with a lot of Atheists is they try to find passages and make the contradiction, when there is none.

A lot of non-Catholic orthodox Christians refuse to accept Revelation is canon to the Biblical scripture as well. That doesn't make them atheists.

You do realize there's over 45,000 denominations of Christianity globally?

You have no chance to prove the NT when you are all already contradicting each other. You are a divided house that cannot stand, but surely expect to fall. This is probably why Christianity is on the decline.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Автор сообщения: apathy

Автор сообщения: BLOOD ASYLUM

Mark 9.1 and 13.30 do not state that. Luke, Jesus makes it known in the end days Israel will be destroyed because they never accept him as the Christ. See Revelation. What I notice with a lot of Atheists is they try to find passages and make the contradiction, when there is none.

A lot of non-Catholic orthodox Christians refuse to accept Revelation is canon to the Biblical scripture as well. That doesn't make them atheists.

You do realize there's over 45,000 denominations of Christianity globally?

You have no chance to prove the NT when you are all already contradicting each other. You are a divided house that cannot stand, but surely expect to fall. This is probably why Christianity is on the decline.

"Some people believe," "Some people say," "Some people think."

[Hobbit XIII]

Автор сообщения: Out Of Bubblegum

Автор сообщения: BLOOD ASYLUM

I listened to all of the New Testament last month and was shocked that it was so consistent. I suggest rather than dissect the book and create your contradictions, you read or listen to the new testament.

It should be consistent. The writers made sure it would be. When the humans that wrote it were all together under the leadership of some counsel to create the New Testament. Using the previous writings they knew about and picking and choosing the parts they wanted to include. A god was never involved in it's creation. Nothing it says is a gods words.

the spirit of courage and good will is within it.

They were taken from various sources people writing letters as an example in reply.

Jesus was a decent guy he was not setting out the law of the land he was going against the structured laws of oppression and selfishness and his way was of being free from those kind of shackles. To explore and greet people with joy and God as a child would in an open and trusting manner not a way that speaks like a lawyer or deceiver.
Be free and be good to each other.

saw revelations being talked about , i'll say my view it is what happens when we forget ourselves and put our unlimited wants ahead of everything and it is destruction that occurs.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Автор сообщения: Out Of Bubblegum

Автор сообщения: BLOOD ASYLUM

I listened to all of the New Testament last month and was shocked that it was so consistent. I suggest rather than dissect the book and create your contradictions, you read or listen to the new testament.

It should be consistent. The writers made sure it would be. When the humans that wrote it were all together under the leadership of some counsel to create the New Testament. Using the previous writings they knew about and picking and choosing the parts they wanted to include. A god was never involved in it's creation. Nothing it says is a gods words.

Tell me about your mom and dad

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Автор сообщения: Hobbit XIII

Автор сообщения: Out Of Bubblegum

It should be consistent. The writers made sure it would be. When the humans that wrote it were all together under the leadership of some counsel to create the New Testament. Using the previous writings they knew about and picking and choosing the parts they wanted to include. A god was never involved in it's creation. Nothing it says is a gods words.

the spirit of courage and good will is within it.

They were taken from various sources people writing letters as an example in reply.

Jesus was a decent guy he was not setting out the law of the land he was going against the structured laws of oppression and selfishness and his way was of being free from those kind of shackles. To explore and greet people with joy and God as a child would in an open and trusting manner not a way that speaks like a lawyer or deceiver.
Be free and be good to each other.

Well ... that IS what some people wrote that he is and did. There is no way to know if any of it is true or if he even existed.

[Hobbit XIII]

Автор сообщения: Out Of Bubblegum

Автор сообщения: Hobbit XIII

the spirit of courage and good will is within it.

They were taken from various sources people writing letters as an example in reply.

Jesus was a decent guy he was not setting out the law of the land he was going against the structured laws of oppression and selfishness and his way was of being free from those kind of shackles. To explore and greet people with joy and God as a child would in an open and trusting manner not a way that speaks like a lawyer or deceiver.
Be free and be good to each other.

Well ... that IS what some people wrote that he is and did. There is no way to know if any of it is true or if he even existed.

There is historical Jesus accepted at least when i was in university long ago (and no i didnt stay too long did other stuff) .
And there is the Jesus the Son of God.
to me it does not matter if he was the son of God, if he had no supernatural ability then what he did was pretty good.
People are explaining stuff they do not understand so they explain it as they can.

Alexander if we lost all information on him and someone started talking about him would people believe it?
Would people believe there was a guy called Bruce Lee who could play ping pong with nunchakus? almost immediately after his death the doubters came in saying he wasnt that good he was a phoney and all that.
Yet eye witnesses saw his stuff.
Some say he was only a hollywood guy and this is funny because he was foremost a Martial Artist not a star because in his words thats just an illusion.
It is a way of expressing himself his martial arts.
He would have people challenge him all over even just walking down the street he would get challenged and fight.
But no the know it alls say he was not all that - the ones who did no real research on him and they spread that lie about him and people start believing it.

Another historical figure, could a 14 year old really hold out and command against an army three times his number on his first outing and fight them himself?
yes, you can figure out who that might be.

[livinggg]

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No one knows god because no god know one.

[apathy]

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"Some people believe," "Some people say," "Some people think."

Are you going to address my post or give up?

Honestly what is up with theists being lazy tonight?

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Автор сообщения: apathy

Автор сообщения: BLOOD ASYLUM

"Some people believe," "Some people say," "Some people think."

Are you going to address my post or give up?

Honestly what is up with theists being lazy tonight?

Nothing to address.

[Professor]

GODS words written by human hands, sounds like a little more mystery rather than history

[Max]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thats why they kill eatch other