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Bomb Shot 29. dec. 2023 kl. 8:22
All religions are man made
Because religion is a human's word.

Including god, Allah and Buddha.
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apathy 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:28 
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Look at the design of that nature. Plants give us air, we give them air. Look at the weather, the ecosystems. The sun give you vitamins! We have a voice to speak, brain to think, hands to grab, feet to walk, heart to pump blood, sex organs, etc. We make art, understand what morals are, invent, etc. The earth is speeding through space, in a perfectly aligned system that allows for you. It's a god dude.
That 99.99999% (recurring) of the universe is hostile and dangerous to life?

That 80% of the universe's volume is void of matter and empty?

That 99.9999999% of your body is empty space between the electrons of your atoms to their nucleus?

That's not Intelligent Design!
🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:31 
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Only one true religion is Christianity. Atheists have religion, too. They believe people in lab coats and pieces of paper that tell them they are smarter than them. They are generally okay with drug use and are liberal. They don't know what a boy or a girl use (pronouns etc) and the absence of christian morals makes them rationalize incorrectly. IE "Life was found on mars. A human in the womb is not life and can be aborted."

wrong

science is not a religion , it is a vast collection of knowledges that we accumulated throught history with repeated questioning and experimentations.



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Oprindeligt skrevet af 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋:
yes , all religions are man made and self induced logical fallacy in order to comfort ourselves in believing that there is an afterlife which reward good peoples and punish those who deserve it.

peoples just simply refusing to accept that things just exist without any meaning and purpose.

the universe existing by itself is not a proof that it's been created by something that can be considered as intelligent or have a will of it's own.

god might exist but there is no way to fully prove or disprove it's existence without any doubt purely based on mere arguments.
You know the difference between right and wrong inherently

wrong , ethic is something that you learn from the world around yourself , either with words or repeated examples.

you go in a different culture , what you consider as wrong might be considered as Right by them.
Sidst redigeret af 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋; 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:31
BLOOD ASYLUM 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:32 
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Thanks for telling me you're an atheist :)
Agnostic Theist, but believe what you wanna, as you do with everything else!
Agnostic theist wow
BLOOD ASYLUM 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:34 
Oprindeligt skrevet af 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋:
Oprindeligt skrevet af BLOOD ASYLUM:
Only one true religion is Christianity. Atheists have religion, too. They believe people in lab coats and pieces of paper that tell them they are smarter than them. They are generally okay with drug use and are liberal. They don't know what a boy or a girl use (pronouns etc) and the absence of christian morals makes them rationalize incorrectly. IE "Life was found on mars. A human in the womb is not life and can be aborted."

wrong

science is not a religion , it is a vast collection of knowledges that we accumulated throught history with repeated questioning and experimentations.



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You know the difference between right and wrong inherently

wrong , ethic is something that you learn from the world around yourself , either with words or repeated examples.

you go in a different culture , what you consider as wrong might be considered as Right by them.
You know you don't want to be killed
You know you don't like being lied to
You know you don't want people to sexually assault you
You know you don't want people to steal from you
You know you don't want people to call you names

You know right from wrong inherently.
apathy 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:37 
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Only one true religion is Christianity.
Gee, let me guess why you think that. You're a Christian that hasn't bothered to read any book other than the Bible? You're a Christian that hasn't bothered to explore the world and discover its full of different cultures and beliefs? You're a Christian that hasn't bothered to talk to anyone of a different faith?


Atheists have religion, too.
Wow another theist on Steam who has no clue what atheism is. To the surprise of nobody.
Not Big Surprise 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:38 
Oprindeligt skrevet af BLOOD ASYLUM:
Oprindeligt skrevet af 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋:

wrong

science is not a religion , it is a vast collection of knowledges that we accumulated throught history with repeated questioning and experimentations.





wrong , ethic is something that you learn from the world around yourself , either with words or repeated examples.

you go in a different culture , what you consider as wrong might be considered as Right by them.
You know you don't want to be killed
You know you don't like being lied to
You know you don't want people to sexually assault you
You know you don't want people to steal from you
You know you don't want people to call you names

You know right from wrong inherently.
if people knew right from wrong inherently, then there simply would be no room for moral disagreements
BLOOD ASYLUM 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:41 
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You know you don't want to be killed
You know you don't like being lied to
You know you don't want people to sexually assault you
You know you don't want people to steal from you
You know you don't want people to call you names

You know right from wrong inherently.
if people knew right from wrong inherently, then there simply would be no room for moral disagreements
People know what's wrong, they just like doing what they know is wrong
Out Of Bubblegum 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:41 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Bomb Shot:
Because religion is a human's word.
Including god, Allah and Buddha.

Correct. Mankind has always had gods. The Sun and the Moon were gods. Then they were objects moved around by gods. The latest versions are no more real than the Moon being a god.
Out Of Bubblegum 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:44 
Oprindeligt skrevet af ZZZZZ:
what about elephants and their graveyards? isnt what they do some sort of religion

I hope this was satire. That is just a myth. No more true than the idea of gods.
BLOOD ASYLUM 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:53 
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Agnostic theist wow
Yeah, as an Agnostic Theist, I can worship/praise God without:
1. Pretending I have 100% incontrovertible proof that God exists
2. Making people hate religion by imposing my views on others
3. Giving God a "son" and turning him into a human man for some reason 🤷🏻‍♀️
4. Annoying anybody
5. Living by arbitrary rules that no longer have/never had consequences

It's certainly nice for me :csd2smile:
Well when you figure out what agnostic is let me know
Not Big Surprise 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:56 
Oprindeligt skrevet af BLOOD ASYLUM:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Midori:
Yeah, as an Agnostic Theist, I can worship/praise God without:
1. Pretending I have 100% incontrovertible proof that God exists
2. Making people hate religion by imposing my views on others
3. Giving God a "son" and turning him into a human man for some reason 🤷🏻‍♀️
4. Annoying anybody
5. Living by arbitrary rules that no longer have/never had consequences

It's certainly nice for me :csd2smile:
Well when you figure out what agnostic is let me know
it's the belief that the existence of a god is unknown
❤ Sly Succubus ❤ 29. dec. 2023 kl. 14:57 
Religion, Science, Goverment, Peace, War, Violence, Love, Construction, Demolition. Honestly yes, its all manmade, anything you look at besides the planet itself is man made because man has yet to discover the means of terraforming, and even if we do it will be a long time before we start factory producing planets.
mai72 29. dec. 2023 kl. 15:02 
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Only one true religion is Christianity. Atheists have religion, too. They believe people in lab coats and pieces of paper that tell them they are smarter than them. They are generally okay with drug use and are liberal. They don't know what a boy or a girl use (pronouns etc) and the absence of christian morals makes them rationalize incorrectly. IE "Life was found on mars. A human in the womb is not life and can be aborted."

Disagree.

For one, the bible has major issues. Take John for example, which many secular and yes even Christian NT scholars now believe to be forged. No where in the first 3 gospels is Jesus calling himself a god. Its only when we get to John that we notice the change in Jesus tone. He is using phrases like "before Abraham was I am" he is basically calling himself God all throughout John, but in our earlier gospels this is absent. Is it any wonder why Christians love to go to John so much? In addition, we have forgeries in John. The adulterous woman FORGED. In the KJV 5.7-5.9 "There are 3 that bear witness in heaven. The father, the word and the holy spirit. Those 3 are 1." FORGED. In fact, that verse is a 16th century forgery that has been omitted in the NIV. Now why was that forged? Easy..

Two: The trinity is no where to be found in the NT. Church fathers desperately wanted to make Jesus 3:1. because Christians were being accused as being polytheist. As so, they put that little verse John 5:7- 9 in the KJV. Also, Timothy 3:16 is in the same vein. A forged verse by church fathers because they wanted desperately to show Jesus as 3:1. I'll finally add that many NT scholars believe the ending of John to be tacked on as well. The further we go away from the original source, the more likely it isn't correct or forged. John is a much later gospel, and strays seriously away from the earlier 3 gospels.

Three: I'm not going to spend a lot of time here, but there are major contradictions in the gospels. Take Jesus resurrection story. Who saw Jesus when he resurrected? Well that depends on what gospel you read. They all contradict each other, and can't even get the simple things right. Its clearly MAN MADE.

Four: Do we have any 1st person accounts of Jesus resurrection? No we don't. The 500? Who were they? Not a clue. No names are given. Nothing. We know nothing about them. Just one person who recorded that 500 people saw Jesus after death. Well we have thousands of people who saw Elvis after his passing. Was Elvis actually alive? Anyway, the other people in the bible who saw Jesus after his passing are all told in 3rd person. We have NOT ONE individual tell us in the bible who saw Jesus after his passing.

Five: And finally, Jesus predicted that the end was near and was going to come during his life time. Mark 9.1 and Mark 13.30 bear this out. The earliest source material of the bible is very apocalyptic. Our very earliest sources" M, L and Q are dripping with apocalyptic messages and sayings from Jesus. The disciple Paul thought the end was near. He addressed this in his letters. He even tells church leaders and followers to not get married, to not have children, and to not start businesses because he also thought the end was coming soon. And Jesus was going to return. Its been over 2000 years and we are all still waiting.
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Out Of Bubblegum 29. dec. 2023 kl. 15:06 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Mischievous Sly Succubus:
Religion, Science, Goverment, Peace, War, Violence, Love, Construction, Demolition. Honestly yes, its all manmade, anything you look at besides the planet itself is man made because man has yet to discover the means of terraforming, and even if we do it will be a long time before we start factory producing planets.

Disagree. All those exist independent of man. Even packs of animals form something like a government. They definitely create societies and violence and wars. And exhibit love. The forces that run the universe exist outside of any discovery of them.
🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 29. dec. 2023 kl. 15:11 
Oprindeligt skrevet af BLOOD ASYLUM:
Oprindeligt skrevet af 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋:

wrong

science is not a religion , it is a vast collection of knowledges that we accumulated throught history with repeated questioning and experimentations.





wrong , ethic is something that you learn from the world around yourself , either with words or repeated examples.

you go in a different culture , what you consider as wrong might be considered as Right by them.
You know you don't want to be killed
You know you don't like being lied to
You know you don't want people to sexually assault you
You know you don't want people to steal from you
You know you don't want people to call you names

You know right from wrong inherently.

empathy is the result of both social and genetic evolutions that has been happening for thousands upon thousands of years of human existence.

it's also not a proof of god existence.
Sidst redigeret af 🍋 Lemonfed 🍋; 29. dec. 2023 kl. 15:13
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