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Lambros (Banned) Dec 25, 2023 @ 9:39pm
Amazon drought: 'We've never seen anything like this'
Amazon drought: 'We've never seen anything like this'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-67751685

The Amazon rainforest experienced its worst drought on record in 2023. Many villages became unreachable by river, wildfires raged and wildlife died. Some scientists worry events like these are a sign that the world's biggest forest is fast approaching a point of no return.

In a matter of weeks they found 276 dead dolphins. Dr Marmontel believes it's the temperature of the water that is killing them. It reached 40.9C in places, nearly 4C higher than dolphin - and human - body temperature.
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Heitor Villa-Lobos Dec 26, 2023 @ 10:56am 
Hi, Brazilian here,

The crisis was definitely horrible. The capital of Amazonas state, Manaus, woke up daily to very heavy smoke everywhere, for months.
https://g1.globo.com/am/amazonas/noticia/2023/11/07/encoberta-desde-agosto-manaus-teve-pico-de-fumaca-na-segunda-6-aponta-inpe.ghtml

The average temeprature was in the low 40ºC, while the lack of winds drove the termal sensation to around 50ºC:
https://www.portaldoholanda.com.br/manaus/manaus-ferve-nesta-quarta-feira-com-calor-e-sensacao-termica-de-49

Many people in the cities were dying of heat and of asfixiation, specially the eldery.

But the worst of it all was that it was all very poorly notified to the rest of the country and to the world. Probably because of a fear of a comparisson with Bostonaro, who intentionally destroyed many of our environments (Amazon, Pantanal, Cerrado), or a fear of criticism of the early Lula government. Some leftist news outlets have been publishing then erasing news that denounce the environmental situation.

I find the hypocrisy even more dangerous: there are thousands of criminal (intentional) wildfires occuring. May they be retaliation of the fall of Bostonarism, or a practice that has been set in place during the past degovernment, they still need to be fought with strong measures.

The governors of the states involved, Pará, Amazonas, and Mato Grosso, kept poiting fingers at the other while denying all responsability themselves.

The resolution is that the situation was not dealt with, and the rain season came to save everyone in the region.
GloriousZote Dec 26, 2023 @ 10:59am 
You guys should check up on Nestlé, wouldn't be the first time these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tried to steal water.
Acetyl Dec 26, 2023 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by GloriousZote:
Ah yes, more people buying into the climate change hoax...
It's not 100% one or the other. That's what they want you saying.
Acetyl Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by Breathe:
Originally posted by GloriousZote:
Ah yes, more people buying into the climate change hoax...
So even the plethora of environmental organizations that are --not-- funded by government entities are wrong as well? You have an interesting blind eye there. Or a strong conspiracy theorist eye.
NGOs are created by the wealthy to spread propaganda. They get their data from compromised sources as well. Don't involve them in anything.

The conspiracy theorist command is a dogwhistle. You were conditioned to say that and have an emotion.
Last edited by Acetyl; Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:01am
Heitor Villa-Lobos Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:
Places like the Amazon rain forest should come under a separate organisation not fixed to any country for its protection due to its global importance.
That's extreme racism, xenophobia and colonialism.

Do you even know anyone from the region?
GloriousZote Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Breathe:
Originally posted by GloriousZote:
Ah yes, more people buying into the climate change hoax...
So even the plethora of environmental organizations that are --not-- funded by government entities are wrong as well? You have an interesting blind eye there. Or a strong conspiracy theorist eye.
Maybe it's got something to do with us being told for.. what, 60 years or something that we're all gonna be dead "in the next 10 years" and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ has happened..
Acetyl Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by GloriousZote:
Originally posted by Breathe:
So even the plethora of environmental organizations that are --not-- funded by government entities are wrong as well? You have an interesting blind eye there. Or a strong conspiracy theorist eye.
Maybe it's got something to do with us being told for.. what, 60 years or something that we're all gonna be dead "in the next 10 years" and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ has happened..
When was the last time your windshield was spattered with insects.
GloriousZote Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Heitor Villa-Lobos:
Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:
Places like the Amazon rain forest should come under a separate organisation not fixed to any country for its protection due to its global importance.
That's extreme racism, xenophobia and colonialism.

Do you even know anyone from the region?
Do you even know what racism, xenophobia and colonialism mean?
GloriousZote Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Acetyl:
Originally posted by GloriousZote:
Maybe it's got something to do with us being told for.. what, 60 years or something that we're all gonna be dead "in the next 10 years" and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ has happened..
When was the last time your windshield was spattered with insects.
I can't drive due to poor eyesight.
SirKnechtalot Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:04am 
After each of the last El-Nino events temps spiked up. The one right now´s the strongest ever recorded. We´re allready at 1,5°C pre industrial so of course the current drought´s caused by climate change. Pretty much all weather extremes of the last years have been warming signs. I doubt even flooding of majory urban centers´ll silence the illiterate crew though. A few weeks ago a "Look snow! Therefore climate change doesn´t exist!" idiot was allowed on our TV and instead of puting this jackass in the booby-hatch everyone acted as if the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ had something to say.
Heitor Villa-Lobos Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:
People will need to unite again on big issues and not just do a protest but a really big shout on boycotting goods that come from the land that was the amazon forest.
You are extremely xenophobic.

The good you should boycott is meat.
Meat production is the sole responsible for the criminal fires and the destruction of the forest. Doesn't matter if you boycott meat from JBS (the largest international company, that buys cattle from invasions and slavery), or if you boycott meat from elsewhere that is fed with the grains from invasions.

Everyone should *value* products from the forest. The ribeirinhos need to make money to keep living.

Everyone should *value* art from the Amazon, culture from the Amazon, and so on.

There are millions of hard working human beings there, trying to make a living. Many people manage to make a living out of extraction that does not destroy the forest. We need to make those productions economically sustainable so big farms of soy (grains for livestock worldwide) and meat (JBS) don't take over the region.
OoOoOoooOOoOoorgle Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by Heitor Villa-Lobos:
Bostonaro

I knew he was wicked, but I didn't realize it went so far as wicked retahded :P
Acetyl Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by GloriousZote:
Originally posted by Acetyl:
When was the last time your windshield was spattered with insects.
I can't drive due to poor eyesight.
What a reply.

Yeah, you're done. Never mind.
GloriousZote Dec 26, 2023 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by Heitor Villa-Lobos:
Originally posted by Hobbit XIII:
People will need to unite again on big issues and not just do a protest but a really big shout on boycotting goods that come from the land that was the amazon forest.
You are extremely xenophobic.

The good you should boycott is meat.
Meat production is the sole responsible for the criminal fires and the destruction of the forest. Doesn't matter if you boycott meat from JBS (the largest international company, that buys cattle from invasions and slavery), or if you boycott meat from elsewhere that is fed with the grains from invasions.

Everyone should *value* products from the forest. The ribeirinhos need to make money to keep living.

Everyone should *value* art from the Amazon, culture from the Amazon, and so on.

There are millions of hard working human beings there, trying to make a living. Many people manage to make a living out of extraction that does not destroy the forest. We need to make those productions economically sustainable so big farms of soy (grains for livestock worldwide) and meat (JBS) don't take over the region.
How to tell everyone you're a vegan without telling them you're a vegan.
And stop calling everyone xenophobic, people like you is why these words lose their meaning.
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