Rockstar Hacker sentenced to Life in Asylum.

[kilésengati]

The apparent lead hacker behind the infamous GTA VI leak effectively got sentenced to life in prison asylum (euphemistically dubbed "indefinite hospital order" to be sent to a "prison hospital"), after being found highly motivated to commit cyber-crime again. I suppose that means at least half of our elites should be sent to an asylum as well?
Another spicy detail: The hacker has been diagnosed with autism. I suppose hacking is his special interest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67663128

His companion, who according to the article is also on the hook for allegedly stalking twowomen, "only" gets 18 months of youth detention. What the actual ♥♥♥♥. He gets locked in an asylum loony murderers and such for life, because he is disabled, but his partner in crime can look forward to be released rather sooner than later. He gets treated like a second-class citizen, solely because he got born with a disability. Just, wow! The UK legal system has reached a new low.

I think it's fair to say he'll get drugged-up, physically abused and the keys thrown away. There are definitely more productive ways to steer his special interest, but I suppose this was the easy route for the authorities.
Yeah, he did bad ♥♥♥♥, and there needs to be a sentence for this, but this is straight up abuse of the disabled and has nothing to do with a just legal system. He didn't even physically hurt anyone.
I totally get why the 'Muricans threw a tea party.

Needless to say, given this cruel punishment, I won't buy any games from Rockstar anymore. Neither will I buy cards from Nvidia. Found their GPUs work crap with Linux anyway, due to their proprietary drivers.

What do you think about the sentence? Please keep it civil.

[Triple G]

Publicado originalmente por Big NoyZ:

Someone as severely autistic as that is a danger to the public surely? The fact u guys can't see the potential danger and threat he poses is scary too.

Which potential danger was shown? If going by that, anyone is potentially dangerous. I don´t think many people would just say "Okay" if they´re sentenced into some asylum, for a reason they can´t understand - which probably also includes to get certain medication against Your will, if You´re for example too unhappy with the general situation and the result.

Which is what the topic is about. Or was there something, which was missing? I asked for that before...

[Birds]

Well, cartoonish discrimination from brainlets aside,

basically Rockstar wanted to manipulate their stock with press releases right? And he messed up the timing for that.

If it was litigated it might make them kinda look like, y'know, inside traders? Really hard to litigate that situation!

So they had him locked up instead.

[kilésengati]

Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:

I believe that what really influenced the court here was his behaviour after he had been arrested.

He was violent, and repeatedly said that he wanted to return to hacking as soon as he was free.

Perhaps most worrying, he also stalked and harassed women online.

You have to remember that this guy did tens of millions worth of damage to companies and individuals.

A judge in the UK will not take this sort of decision lightly. It is extremely rare that they will sentence anyone as harshly as this. The psychologists who assessed him must have been truly worried about his behaviour and his inability to show any sense of remorse or control.

That's like locking up someone with Down syndrome for sexual assault over hugging strangers.

According to the article, his partner allegedly stalked and harassed women, and got a much lesser sentence for it.

And from what I've heard thus far, judges in the UK take themselves lots of... "liberties", when it comes to respecting human and civil rights. Differently put, they don't give a flying toss.

Nobody deserves a life sentence (and such a cruel one at that) over such a crime.

Publicado originalmente por Big NoyZ:

Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:

It looks like he had a series of meltdowns after being arrested, which is what is to be expected when such an extreme situations happens to someone deemed "severely autistic" and has nothing to do with their behaviour in day-to-day life.
But the actual hacking, which is what the case is about, didn't caused any physical harm.
The authorities definitely just used the meltdowns to lock him up for life without trial. I wouldn't even be surprised if they cooked him off on purpose.

Someone as severely autistic as that is a danger to the public surely? The fact u guys can't see the potential danger and threat he poses is scary too.

By that logic, we'd preemptively lock up everyone with autism because they could suffer a meltdown someday, and every career criminal for intending to do crime again. 🤮🤮🤮

[Alliesaurus]

Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:

Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:

I believe that what really influenced the court here was his behaviour after he had been arrested.

He was violent, and repeatedly said that he wanted to return to hacking as soon as he was free.

Perhaps most worrying, he also stalked and harassed women online.

You have to remember that this guy did tens of millions worth of damage to companies and individuals.

A judge in the UK will not take this sort of decision lightly. It is extremely rare that they will sentence anyone as harshly as this. The psychologists who assessed him must have been truly worried about his behaviour and his inability to show any sense of remorse or control.

That's like locking up someone with Down syndrome for sexual assault over hugging strangers.

According to the article, his partner allegedly stalked and harassed women, and got a much lesser sentence for it.

And from what I've heard thus far, judges in the UK take themselves lots of... "liberties", when it comes to respecting human and civil rights. Differently put, they don't give a flying toss.

Nobody deserves a life sentence (and such a cruel one at that) over such a crime.

Publicado originalmente por Big NoyZ:

Someone as severely autistic as that is a danger to the public surely? The fact u guys can't see the potential danger and threat he poses is scary too.

By that logic, we'd preemptively lock up everyone with autism because they could suffer a meltdown someday, and every career criminal for intending to do crime again. 🤮🤮🤮

Only the ones that break the law, which he did, it's a serious crime regardless of who the victim was, which is why he is potentially very dangerous and the sentence reflects that. There was nothing to stop him from hacking something that could endanger the public. You don't seem to be factoring the public's safety into this at all. Yes barf emojis, very good.

[Birds]

So we should lock up anyone with a programming degree?

[kilésengati]

Publicado originalmente por Big NoyZ:

Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:

That's like locking up someone with Down syndrome for sexual assault over hugging strangers.

According to the article, his partner allegedly stalked and harassed women, and got a much lesser sentence for it.

And from what I've heard thus far, judges in the UK take themselves lots of... "liberties", when it comes to respecting human and civil rights. Differently put, they don't give a flying toss.

Nobody deserves a life sentence (and such a cruel one at that) over such a crime.






By that logic, we'd preemptively lock up everyone with autism because they could suffer a meltdown someday, and every career criminal for intending to do crime again. 🤮🤮🤮

Only the ones that break the law, which he did, it's a serious crime regardless of who the victim was, which is why he is potentially very dangerous. There was nothing to stop him from hacking something that could endanger the public. You don't seem to be factoring the public's safety into this at all. Yes barf emojis, very good.

That is some Minority Report ♥♥♥♥. Everybody has the potential to do crime. The prospect of locking someone up over that potential is outright Orwellian.

[Birds]

"oh but it's a proven track record, look he committed a crime"

...that he wasn't tried for.

[Pocahawtness]

Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:

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That's like locking up someone with Down syndrome for sexual assault over hugging strangers.

According to the article, his partner allegedly stalked and harassed women, and got a much lesser sentence for it.

And from what I've heard thus far, judges in the UK take themselves lots of... "liberties", when it comes to respecting human and civil rights. Differently put, they don't give a flying toss.

Nobody deserves a life sentence (and such a cruel one at that) over such a crime.

Absolutely incorrect. The judges in the UK are very lenient, even with serious crime. Besides, a judge would not have made that decision by himself. The moment the boy showed any strange behaviour, the psychiatrists would have been called in and the judge would have followed their recommendations. And, before you say it, you have to be a serious danger to others to be locked up in the UK on medical grounds.

You can not judge this sort of guy until you have met him and spent some time with him. Honestly, making light of his illness just shows to me that you have never met any seriously, mentally ill people, and have no idea how hopeless an individual can be.

[Birds]

Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:

Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:

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That's like locking up someone with Down syndrome for sexual assault over hugging strangers.

According to the article, his partner allegedly stalked and harassed women, and got a much lesser sentence for it.

And from what I've heard thus far, judges in the UK take themselves lots of... "liberties", when it comes to respecting human and civil rights. Differently put, they don't give a flying toss.

Nobody deserves a life sentence (and such a cruel one at that) over such a crime.

Absolutely incorrect. The judges in the UK are very lenient, even with serious crime. Besides, a judge would not have made that decision by himself. The moment the boy showed any strange behaviour, the psychiatrists would have been called in and the judge would have followed their recommendations. And, before you say it, you have to be a serious danger to others to be locked up in the UK on medical grounds.

You can not judge this sort of guy until you have met him and spent some time with him. Honestly, making light of his illness just shows to me that you have never met any seriously, mentally ill people, and have no idea how hopeless an individual can be.

oh they can just evaluate him in jail. worst case scenario he learns a harsh lesson from 3 months in a mental institution having his sense of reality stripped away.

[ZZZZZ]

oh, a person that is a danger is getting locked up! Oh, how tragic

[Alliesaurus]

Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:

Publicado originalmente por Big NoyZ:

Only the ones that break the law, which he did, it's a serious crime regardless of who the victim was, which is why he is potentially very dangerous. There was nothing to stop him from hacking something that could endanger the public. You don't seem to be factoring the public's safety into this at all. Yes barf emojis, very good.

That is some Minority Report ♥♥♥♥. Everybody has the potential to do crime. The prospect of locking someone up over that potential is outright Orwellian.

He hacked and broke the law, the potential is clearly there...

[Alliesaurus]

Publicado originalmente por Birds:

So we should lock up anyone with a programming degree?

Are they breaking the law? I'm sure that someone that has a programming degree will know how serious a crime hacking is.

[Birds]

"well if we tried everyone for potential we'd be short a metropolitan police force"

[Birds]

Publicado originalmente por Big NoyZ:

Publicado originalmente por Birds:

So we should lock up anyone with a programming degree?

Are the breaking the law? I'm sure that someone that has a programming degree will know how serious a crime hacking is.

i am absolutely positive most have decompiled at least one software package, and thus have broken the law.

it's pretty much a standard component of the curriculum.

[Hobbit XIII]

Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:

The apparent lead hacker behind the infamous GTA VI leak effectively got sentenced to life in prison asylum (euphemistically dubbed "indefinite hospital order" to be sent to a "prison hospital"), after being found highly motivated to commit cyber-crime again. I suppose that means at least half of our elites should be sent to an asylum as well?
Another spicy detail: The hacker has been diagnosed with autism. I suppose hacking is his special interest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67663128

His companion, who according to the article is also on the hook for allegedly stalking twowomen, "only" gets 18 months of youth detention. What the actual ♥♥♥♥. He gets locked in an asylum loony murderers and such for life, because he is disabled, but his partner in crime can look forward to be released rather sooner than later. He gets treated like a second-class citizen, solely because he got born with a disability. Just, wow! The UK legal system has reached a new low.

I think it's fair to say he'll get drugged-up, physically abused and the keys thrown away. There are definitely more productive ways to steer his special interest, but I suppose this was the easy route for the authorities.
Yeah, he did bad ♥♥♥♥, and there needs to be a sentence for this, but this is straight up abuse of the disabled and has nothing to do with a just legal system. He didn't even physically hurt anyone.
I totally get why the 'Muricans threw a tea party.

Needless to say, given this cruel punishment, I won't buy any games from Rockstar anymore. Neither will I buy cards from Nvidia. Found their GPUs work crap with Linux anyway, due to their proprietary drivers.

What do you think about the sentence? Please keep it civil.

there is so much misunderstood about autism and it is frustrating especially when the authorities do not / cannot understand.
It is a doorway to excellence in some things and a throwback to the stone age in others and the very word auto can play the part too.
that guy could be given purpose and be an asset to the state instead that happens to him.