kilésengati 21 DIC 2023 a las 3:32 p. m.
Rockstar Hacker sentenced to Life in Asylum.
The apparent lead hacker behind the infamous GTA VI leak effectively got sentenced to life in prison asylum (euphemistically dubbed "indefinite hospital order" to be sent to a "prison hospital"), after being found highly motivated to commit cyber-crime again. I suppose that means at least half of our elites should be sent to an asylum as well?
Another spicy detail: The hacker has been diagnosed with autism. I suppose hacking is his special interest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67663128

His companion, who according to the article is also on the hook for allegedly stalking twowomen, "only" gets 18 months of youth detention. What the actual ♥♥♥♥. He gets locked in an asylum loony murderers and such for life, because he is disabled, but his partner in crime can look forward to be released rather sooner than later. He gets treated like a second-class citizen, solely because he got born with a disability. Just, wow! The UK legal system has reached a new low.

I think it's fair to say he'll get drugged-up, physically abused and the keys thrown away. There are definitely more productive ways to steer his special interest, but I suppose this was the easy route for the authorities.
Yeah, he did bad ♥♥♥♥, and there needs to be a sentence for this, but this is straight up abuse of the disabled and has nothing to do with a just legal system. He didn't even physically hurt anyone.
I totally get why the 'Muricans threw a tea party.

Needless to say, given this cruel punishment, I won't buy any games from Rockstar anymore. Neither will I buy cards from Nvidia. Found their GPUs work crap with Linux anyway, due to their proprietary drivers.

What do you think about the sentence? Please keep it civil.
Última edición por kilésengati; 21 DIC 2023 a las 4:00 p. m.
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kilésengati 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:49 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Hobbit XIII:

Cutting it straight down to the cheese without expecting to be questioned on it repeatedly I will say :

Put him in GCHQ.

Yay, I've just learned another Bri'ish euphemism for enslavement.
Última edición por kilésengati; 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:51 a. m.
Birds 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:50 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:
Publicado originalmente por Mauserich:
Everyone is equal before the law. It makes no difference to the offence whether he acted deliberately or because of his lack of judgement. This only has an effect on the penalty, which is adapted to the particular circumstances of his disability.

What the heck? If he weren't disabled, he'd be looking towards a year or two in juvenile detention, now he's sent to prison asylum for life being subject to involuntary medication among other abuse "until his autism goes away" (it doesn't!). That has nothing to with a sentence adapted to his circumstances.

Well, see, this just comes across as screening a sociopathic Royal for signs of remorse, or if they can comprehend that their actions are harming the fabric of society and need to be stopped.

They might have some kind of condition which prevents them from seeing this, such as narcissism, which would be easier to screen for if they used an external foible to highlight the logic.

Publicado originalmente por videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:
Publicado originalmente por Mauserich:
Everyone is equal before the law. It makes no difference to the offence whether he acted deliberately or because of his lack of judgement. This only has an effect on the penalty, which is adapted to the particular circumstances of his disability.
I agree with you in the spirit of things but I think you missed something.
The man wasn't -sentenced- at all. Asylum isn't a punishment you are put into in sentencing, it's when the judge has found(in the U.K. at sole discretion, far as I know, in the U.S. through expert psychological review) that the person does not understand his own actions or the world around him. It be like a man hopped up on LSD so far that he has brain damage and doesn't know what a judge is. You can't really judge a man that unaware.

The Magistrate only has that kind of discretion when it's a case involving a conflict between the Civil and Crown authorities. Ultimately the Magistrate makes a decision, and things shake out from there.
☎need4naiim☎ 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:51 a. m. 
What did the hacker do? Did he cause billions of GTA 6 copies to be claimed by billions who didn't give a dime to Rockstar?


The scheme is that a giant company is doing controversial moves ON PURPOSE to remain as a "talking point", as if their game is like air & water for gamers worldwide.

If i had been the US President, i would have ordered a quick shutdown of anything related to GTA6. As a proper punishment for "trying to make colossal advertising by purposefully making controversies, even if that requires ruining a human being's life".

This IS serious stuff. Governments SHOULD take action against companies trying to artificially up the value of their products by trying multiple controversies related to their product(s).

That was the prime reason why i didn't touch GTAV (never bought nor played it in any machine nor accepted it as a gift). I am NOT joking.
Hobbit XIII 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:53 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por kilésengati:
Publicado originalmente por Hobbit XIII:

Cutting it straight down to the cheese without expecting to be questioned on it repeatedly I will say :

Put him in GCHQ.

Yay, I've just learned another Bri'ish euphemism for enslavement.

We are all enslaved into the concrete blocks away from the world we are truly made from and dedicate our lives to keeping that concrete block to bind us from reality.
Birds 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:53 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ☎need4naiim☎:
What did the hacker do? Did he cause billions of GTA 6 copies to be claimed by billions who didn't give a dime to Rockstar?


The scheme is that a giant company is doing controversial moves ON PURPOSE to remain as a "talking point", as if their game is like air & water for gamers worldwide.

If i had been the US President, i would have ordered a quick shutdown of anything related to GTA6. As a proper punishment for "trying to make colossal advertising by purposefully making controversies, even if that requires ruining a human being's life".

This IS serious stuff. Governments SHOULD take action against companies trying to artificially up the value of their products by trying multiple controversies related to their product(s).

That was the prime reason why i didn't touch GTAV (never bought nor played it in any machine nor accepted it as a gift). I am NOT joking.

Right, that's the exact kind of situation that might cause a sting to occur.

It's harming the whole country when they do this, especially if they do it under the legal protections of the Crown.

It makes EVERYONE look bad.
Pocahawtness 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:55 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Big NoyZ:
Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:

If you are just going to make stuff up then there is little point in even trying to have a conversation.
I find it funny these guys just criticise while throwing in the usual political IQ but don't actually come up with any ideas on the sentencing he should get.

No one on this forum can come up with a reasonable sentence for him. No one here has ever met him, has ever read any psychological report - nothing.

It all comes down to whether you trust the legal system or not. Clearly, there are some people who don't. The concerning thing, though, is how the same people are so misinformed about the UK. To say they have no idea what they are talking about is the understatement of the decade.

Personally, I know the UK well, and know, if anything, they have a remarkably lenient courts. Also, the aid that mentally ill people get is extremely sparse, so for anyone to get a recommendation that they need to be hospitalised for life is unusual. The lad must be seriously ill. He must be considered a severe threat to both himself and other people around him.

My own experience with this is that many people just have no clue how bad a seriously mentally ill person can be.

The idea that this sentence could be influenced by the monarchy or whatever, is just beyond ridiculous. Why not aliens? I mean, it's THAT ridiculous.
Última edición por Pocahawtness; 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:57 a. m.
Birds 22 DIC 2023 a las 4:58 a. m. 
One of the nice things about the UK legal system is that the opinion of the accused, and their motivations, factor heavily.

Outlining the circumstances of a Royal's crimes as plainly as possible for them to see, and then seeking their response, is an integral part of the legal system and of allowing them to defend themselves.

It's a very meticulous and careful process.

Whereas in the US this is basically thrown out the window, except in the case of Self Defense which is legally a type of insanity.
Birds 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:03 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:
The idea that this sentence could be influenced by the monarchy or whatever, is just beyond ridiculous. Why not aliens? I mean, it's THAT ridiculous.

Well, see, again, you're not really getting it are you?

If this were a simple Civil case, the Magistrate wouldn't be able to declare sentencing by fiat like that. That's not how laws work; you can't just have singular individuals doing that kind of thing.

However the Monarchy is essentially immune to prosecution under Civil process, so if there's any kind of conflict between the two branches the Magistrate has to decide what to do on their own. With advice from both sides.

Then the authorities ultimately use their control over the establishment to see how the issue shakes out from each angle.

Lots of famous cases like this that I frankly don't remember because the UK doesn't really beleive in public records regarding these kinds of conflicts for salient reasons (mostly French people, but also Germans and Russians and various colonial forces trying to get back at the empire.)
Última edición por Birds; 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:05 a. m.
Pocahawtness 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:08 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Birds:
Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:
The idea that this sentence could be influenced by the monarchy or whatever, is just beyond ridiculous. Why not aliens? I mean, it's THAT ridiculous.

Well, see, again, you're not really getting it are you?

If this were a simple Civil case, the Magistrate wouldn't be able to declare sentencing by fiat like that. That's not how laws work; you can't just have singular individuals doing that kind of thing.

However the Monarchy is essentially immune to prosecution under Civil process, so if there's any kind of conflict between the two branches the Magistrate has to decide what to do on their own. With advice from both sides.

Then the authorities ultimately use their control over the establishment to see how the issue shakes out from each angle.

Lots of famous cases like this that I frankly don't remember because the UK doesn't really beleive in public records regarding these kinds of conflicts for salient reasons.

Getting what? The argument makes no sense.

It doesn't matter what type of case this is, the Monarchy has absolutely nothing to do with it.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the UK legal system.
Birds 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:11 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:
Publicado originalmente por Birds:

Well, see, again, you're not really getting it are you?

If this were a simple Civil case, the Magistrate wouldn't be able to declare sentencing by fiat like that. That's not how laws work; you can't just have singular individuals doing that kind of thing.

However the Monarchy is essentially immune to prosecution under Civil process, so if there's any kind of conflict between the two branches the Magistrate has to decide what to do on their own. With advice from both sides.

Then the authorities ultimately use their control over the establishment to see how the issue shakes out from each angle.

Lots of famous cases like this that I frankly don't remember because the UK doesn't really beleive in public records regarding these kinds of conflicts for salient reasons.

Getting what? The argument makes no sense.

It doesn't matter what type of case this is, the Monarchy has absolutely nothing to do with it.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the UK legal system.

I'm afraid we're at an impasse; one of us can explain the correct process, and the other doesn't seem to be able to.

I encourage you to do your own research on the matter; it may be important one day.
Hobbit XIII 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:13 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Birds:
Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:

Getting what? The argument makes no sense.

It doesn't matter what type of case this is, the Monarchy has absolutely nothing to do with it.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the UK legal system.

I'm afraid we're at an impasse; one of us can explain the correct process, and the other doesn't seem to be able to.

I encourage you to do your own research on the matter; it may be important one day.

Do you ever get bored of pissing logical and rational people off?
Alliesaurus 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:13 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Pirate☠️Pocah:
Publicado originalmente por Birds:

Well, see, again, you're not really getting it are you?

If this were a simple Civil case, the Magistrate wouldn't be able to declare sentencing by fiat like that. That's not how laws work; you can't just have singular individuals doing that kind of thing.

However the Monarchy is essentially immune to prosecution under Civil process, so if there's any kind of conflict between the two branches the Magistrate has to decide what to do on their own. With advice from both sides.

Then the authorities ultimately use their control over the establishment to see how the issue shakes out from each angle.

Lots of famous cases like this that I frankly don't remember because the UK doesn't really beleive in public records regarding these kinds of conflicts for salient reasons.

Getting what? The argument makes no sense.

It doesn't matter what type of case this is, the Monarchy has absolutely nothing to do with it.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the UK legal system.
C'mon man, let him have his fun
Última edición por Alliesaurus; 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:14 a. m.
Birds 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:13 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Hobbit XIII:
Publicado originalmente por Birds:

I'm afraid we're at an impasse; one of us can explain the correct process, and the other doesn't seem to be able to.

I encourage you to do your own research on the matter; it may be important one day.

Do you ever get bored of pissing logical and rational people off?

I never get bored of squeezing rats no.

A lot of them like it.
Última edición por Birds; 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:14 a. m.
videomike_Ultimate_Plushie 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:16 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Birds:
One of the nice things about the UK legal system is that the opinion of the accused, and their motivations, factor heavily.

Outlining the circumstances of a Royal's crimes as plainly as possible for them to see, and then seeking their response, is an integral part of the legal system and of allowing them to defend themselves.

It's a very meticulous and careful process.

Whereas in the US this is basically thrown out the window, except in the case of Self Defense which is legally a type of insanity.
That's not a good thing. First self defense is not anything approaching an insanity plea. An insanity please is a claim by the defense the defendent is either currently or at the time unaware of their actions to the degree of functionally not be conscious. "I had taken a stupid amount of LSD and did no seen John, I saw a static demon screeching at me while its fingers were about to dig in my eyes." is a viable defense. What you're thinking of is called an affirmative defense, which is a legal concept meaning it's a defense which necessitates calling for the pity and understanding of the jury due to requiring one to admit to having done the action in question. It's usually ill advised because it's risky and doesn't work nearly as often as it should.

As for the second, a crime should only be judged on the intent and oppurtunity, not the motive. It should not matter WHY the defendant punched a guy in the face, robbed him, and/or stabbed him, it only matters he did it and the prosecution can prove he did so willingly and with knowledge he was doing one or all of those things. Whether he was motivated by personal dislike or not, should not matter, only what was done, exception being entrapment or self defense for obvious human rights reason. The U.S. not having this is why we don't have and can never have laws that say, punish someone because "the court believe you were motivated to harm X people," see Dankula.
Birds 22 DIC 2023 a las 5:19 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:
Publicado originalmente por Birds:
One of the nice things about the UK legal system is that the opinion of the accused, and their motivations, factor heavily.

Outlining the circumstances of a Royal's crimes as plainly as possible for them to see, and then seeking their response, is an integral part of the legal system and of allowing them to defend themselves.

It's a very meticulous and careful process.

Whereas in the US this is basically thrown out the window, except in the case of Self Defense which is legally a type of insanity.
That's not a good thing. First self defense is not anything approaching an insanity plea. An insanity please is a claim by the defense the defendent is either currently or at the time unaware of their actions to the degree of functionally not be conscious. "I had taken a stupid amount of LSD and did no seen John, I saw a static demon screeching at me while its fingers were about to dig in my eyes." is a viable defense. What you're thinking of is called an affirmative defense, which is a legal concept meaning it's a defense which necessitates calling for the pity and understanding of the jury due to requiring one to admit to having done the action in question. It's usually ill advised because it's risky and doesn't work nearly as often as it should.

As for the second, a crime should only be judged on the intent and oppurtunity, not the motive. It should not matter WHY the defendant punched a guy in the face, robbed him, and/or stabbed him, it only matters he did it and the prosecution can prove he did so willingly and with knowledge he was doing one or all of those things. Whether he was motivated by personal dislike or not, should not matter, only what was done, exception being entrapment or self defense for obvious human rights reason. The U.S. not having this is why we don't have and can never have laws that say, punish someone because "the court believe you were motivated to harm X people," see Dankula.

Oh, you're confusing the two systems. The UK doesn't recognize self defense via insanity; that's a US position that was enacted because the alternative was removing people's ability to defend themselves from anyone.

The UK system is more nuanced, and our opinions as forumgoes are literally irrelevant to it, and if any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid BIS agents were here their only real job would be to obfusificate the legal system.

Again, the country's a walking crime against humanity and needs to be torn down. The Crown itself recognized it when they made the BIS Labor faction official.

If I recall correctly Dankula was stripped of title and exiled, and it's the long-term opinion of everyone that he should have been hung instead. I'm not really sure who that is though, so.
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