How many races are there?

[GunsForBucks]

Growing up many years ago in one part of the world I was basically taught that humans began in three places on Earth.
Getting jobs as a kid I would only see three options on applications. I just figured that is how it worked.

As a grew older and moved to the USA I started to see more and more added. Like Hispanic was a new option I never saw before I moved to Southern California.

I figure what people consider "race" seems to be very different depending on how/where/experience from being raised a certain way.

Over the years I have seen more and more added to the list of races along with "other".

Now it seems the list is shorter and has the more basic local options and "other".

So the question becomes ...

Just what do people in different places call a "race"?

I have even seen Puerto Rican as a race.
Do Chinese consider themselves a different race from Japanese? There are certainly different characteristics. Different from Korean?

Should we consider Irish a different race from Scottish? They also have distinct characteristics. Even classic Roman features are different from classic Greeks.

Where do we draw the line? Are we back to the original 3 or has race become like gender and anything goes?

I just don't know. What is considered "normal" today? Is this even taboo to ask about or am I insulting someone by asking?

ANSWER - Apparently races do not exist. There is only one Race <human> and many Nationalities. Any mention of physical difference is considered bad and racist.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

Europeans drank more molk than asians and have developed lower dairy intolerance over thousands of years but its not a racial divide just subgroup uniqueness

[Triple G]

Originally posted by Yavin Coyote:

I will make a hard guess but I believe due the climate conditions they faced.

Like in Asia it was very windy, so they had to squint their eyes all the time. Else i´d say it´s just normal evolution. Some features stay, and some don´t, while the people for sure live under different conditions, and aren´t really in touch with each other all the time.

And here - outside of laymen use to distinguish between certain dog and cat breeds - the term "race" isn´t really used for anything. In biology it´s "Art" like "species". And there´s only one human species. Race is about race theory and racism, so it´s used by these people - or actual sports.

[Moogal™]

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[Downtown DK Company ✅]

Originally posted by Yavin Coyote:

Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:

Stupid question but why did Asians and Europeans evolved differently? I tried googling it but no answers.

I will make a hard guess but I believe due the climate conditions they faced.

It’s because evolution is selective but also random. And when separated by hundreds and hundreds of miles some random evolved traits have no way of spreading from one side of Asia to Europe and vis versa.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

threre ate 72 races.

each decending from 1 of the 72 grandchildren of noah

[GunsForBucks]

OK
Just read through the replies and what I am seeing is there is the opinion that there is only one race and all the differences evolved from there?

So basically what I learned about Whites, Africans and Asians all springing up individually at the same time was a lie. I thought at the time I was taught there were genetic identifiable differences that could ID ones source.. so to speak.

I can accept all that is a lie though. We learn we are told so many lies as life goes on so I know I don't know anything.

Originally posted by Eidolon:

I'm a Malaysian of Chinese ethnicity. I'm curious as to what you mean about different characteristics from Japanese and Koreans. Please explain them if you can. To me, the difference is less about physical characteristics and more about popular and common hairstyles, clothing, etc. The kind of hairstyles people have in Japan and China and Korea are different, but the people themselves often have the same types of characteristics in my opinion.

Even with those who are Chinese, there are differences depending on the region. Chinese from China and from Taiwan like different clothes and hairstyles, same for Chinese from Malaysia, or Singaporean Chinese, etc.

As for race itself, it's arbitrary and if you go outside your own bubble and see other parts of the world you come to realize that the "line" is completely made up and it can become blurry sometimes. All of it is superficial and we are all human race at the end.

Originally posted by Yavin Coyote:

We have different phenotypes and groups of people have adapted to different climates and places but we still belong to the same race.

This post explains best why you see appearance differences, but that's all it is in the end. Only the appearance. In my opinion, no need to think too hard about it.

No offense meant. Just want to say that up front!!

I actually never noticed this until I was around a lot of Asian types of people... but the bone structure, especially around the eyes, is quite different from your "typical" Chinese compared to Japanese or even Korean. Just wondering if those differences were enough for them to be considered different from each other. Of course "standard deviation" means people are anything but "typical" on an individual basis. But overall I can look at a group of Asians and tell visually who is more likely from what country in a lot of cases just looking at faces.

I think an Asian person would even be able to tell better.

Like for me I could spot Irish people fairly easily. Scottish tend to be stockier/wider.
Romans tend to have mousey faces, Greeks broader.

Of course all of this is purely broad generalizations. But to me Hispanics that I have even seen listed on job applications seem little more than tanned whites.

At what point does it become another race?

I am actually happy to see replies saying race itself being something that should be ignored. I have always believed this myself. Even the three race thing seemed equal to me as we all started at the same time but either way works for me.

Has it been determined if we started in any one place or not as humanity?

[Xautos]

Originally posted by GunsForBucks:

Growing up many years ago in one part of the world I was basically taught that humans began in three places on Earth.
Getting jobs as a kid I would only see three options on applications. I just figured that is how it worked.

As a grew older and moved to the USA I started to see more and more added. Like Hispanic was a new option I never saw before I moved to Southern California.

I figure what people consider "race" seems to be very different depending on how/where/experience from being raised a certain way.

Over the years I have seen more and more added to the list of races along with "other".

Now it seems the list is shorter and has the more basic local options and "other".

So the question becomes ...

Just what do people in different places call a "race"?

I have even seen Puerto Rican as a race.
Do Chinese consider themselves a different race from Japanese? There are certainly different characteristics. Different from Korean?

Should we consider Irish a different race from Scottish? They also have distinct characteristics. Even classic Roman features are different from classic Greeks.

Where do we draw the line? Are we back to the original 3 or has race become like gender and anything goes?

I just don't know. What is considered "normal" today? Is this even taboo to ask about or am I insulting someone by asking?

Except none of these are races, they are ethnicities or nationalities. if you want to judge based on race? it would be the difference between h. sapiens and h. neanderthalensis.

i don't subscribe this this word being being misused like it does, i never have. if you are going to use the race card, do it right.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

Westerners: we're all one race the human race #livelaughlove

Two tribes in Africa: ...

[GunsForBucks]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by GunsForBucks:

Growing up many years ago in one part of the world I was basically taught that humans began in three places on Earth.
Getting jobs as a kid I would only see three options on applications. I just figured that is how it worked.

As a grew older and moved to the USA I started to see more and more added. Like Hispanic was a new option I never saw before I moved to Southern California.

I figure what people consider "race" seems to be very different depending on how/where/experience from being raised a certain way.

Over the years I have seen more and more added to the list of races along with "other".

Now it seems the list is shorter and has the more basic local options and "other".

So the question becomes ...

Just what do people in different places call a "race"?

I have even seen Puerto Rican as a race.
Do Chinese consider themselves a different race from Japanese? There are certainly different characteristics. Different from Korean?

Should we consider Irish a different race from Scottish? They also have distinct characteristics. Even classic Roman features are different from classic Greeks.

Where do we draw the line? Are we back to the original 3 or has race become like gender and anything goes?

I just don't know. What is considered "normal" today? Is this even taboo to ask about or am I insulting someone by asking?

Except none of these are races, they are ethnicities or nationalities. if you want to judge based on race? it would be the difference between h. sapiens and h. neanderthalensis.

i don't subscribe this this word being being misused like it does, i never have. if you are going to use the race card, do it right.

Let me just make one thing clear here.

I am old.
I am telling you what I was taught was normal. I am not judging anyone on anything.

I did not make up asking for race on job applications ...
I have not filled out a job application myself since 1986... I have no idea what they ask for today. Edit - maybe 1987? When I got out of the Navy and got a job I retired in later.

Please don't hate on me for wanting to be informed.
Thank you.

[Hobbit XIII]

race / ethnicity sheesh 'modern' day people do get fussy.

What you are asking OP is for me a near impossible question. The big migrations that can happen even in a single generation can change the genetic pool of both native and the travelling.

When people hear me talk they are surprised i have an English accent, they cannot always place where they expect me to come from but it's not England (Scotland if you must know pict arrived in Scotland 6th century from France is the oldest we can trace my ancestry).

I grow a beard and i really look like i should be with a French / European accent. Yet clean or bit unshaved you would not think French.

If I have a heavy tan people would think I am an Arab.

You could look at Jewish people and see similarities even in different parts of the world. Goldberg from the pawn shop show set in Detroit he had a quick painting made of him and he remarked how much like Albert Einstein he looked from that picture and he was right you could see a similarity.

The actor from Dirty Dancing the father of Francis he had strong resemblance to an Israeli politician on the news the other night.

In the village called Crettinsbehere down the road they all alike its uncanny!

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

F1 is boring af

[Ulfrinn]

Well, you would basically have three categories I guess. Race, ethnicity, and nationality. Chinese and Japanese are different nationalities. As they have different cultures they could be considered different ethnicities. But are probably genetically similar enough to be considered the same race, being east Asian. Puerto Rican would also be a nationality and ethnicity but not really it's own race.

[Downtown DK Company ✅]

Originally there were 4 that people were grouped into…

1.Caucasoids
2.Mongoloids
3.Negroids
4.Australoids

However, there have been new people discovered and major scale race mixing in some parts of the globe since then. Mestizos for example, are a mix or the Aztec and Caucasoid. Arabs, also a mixed group that won’t fit into any of the four original groups.

[Ulfrinn]

Originally posted by Downtown DK Company ✅:

Originally there were 4 that people were grouped into…

1.Caucasoids
2.Mongoloids
3.Negroids
4.Australoids

However, there have been new people discovered and major scale race mixing in some parts of the globe since then. Mestizos for example, are a mix or the Aztec and Caucasoid. Arabs, also a mixed group that won’t fit into any of the four original groups.

Arab is Caucasian. Not really all that mixed eithet.

[Downtown DK Company ✅]

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Originally posted by Downtown DK Company ✅:

Originally there were 4 that people were grouped into…

1.Caucasoids
2.Mongoloids
3.Negroids
4.Australoids

However, there have been new people discovered and major scale race mixing in some parts of the globe since then. Mestizos for example, are a mix or the Aztec and Caucasoid. Arabs, also a mixed group that won’t fit into any of the four original groups.

Arab is Caucasian. Not really all that mixed eithet.

According to USA census data, yes. According to genetics and migration in the Middle East and North Africa, no.