The Post Harris/Walz 2024 thread

[Holografix]

"Somehow Palpatine returned"

For 'reasons,' maga republicans chose to write the next chapter of american political history by aping the plot device of the worst of the Star Wars films.

*Donald Trump is a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist.

[Pronoun Paladin ☯]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Opprinnelig skrevet av LeftIsBest-James:

She hates her dad. Her mom had drug problems.
Again, she was not LGBT (she had a boyfriend). She was a NEO-NAZI. Timestamp 2:15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x18wWUqh1gs

Not what I asked.

If she was an "abused and oppressed gay woman", would that have justified her shooting up a Christian school library?

What will really blow your mind is when you realize that the left isn't against murder if it supports their cause.

Please see Ashli Babbit.

Please see Trump assassination attemps.

Please see CEO of Health Insurance Companies.

[MinionJoe]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Chunk Norris ☯:

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Not what I asked.

If she was an "abused and oppressed gay woman", would that have justified her shooting up a Christian school library?

What will really blow your mind is when you realize that the left isn't against murder if it supports their cause.

Please see Ashli Babbit.

Please see Trump assassination attemps.

Please see CEO of Health Insurance Companies.

Shhhh! You're spoiling my line of argument!

But that is my ultimate point, assigning labels to violent actors only matters if the violent acts are acceptable for some labels but not others.

"Neonazis" and "registered Republicans" aren't allowed to hurt anyone.

"Oppressed women" and "slam poets" are allowed to hurt certain people.

Of course, we don't talk about the "oppressed v. oppressed" hurting incidents.

[Pronoun Paladin ☯]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Chunk Norris ☯:

What will really blow your mind is when you realize that the left isn't against murder if it supports their cause.

Please see Ashli Babbit.

Please see Trump assassination attemps.

Please see CEO of Health Insurance Companies.

Shhhh! You're spoiling my line of argument! :spazwinky:

But that is my ultimate point, assigning labels to violent actors only matters if the violent acts are acceptable for some labels but not others.

"Neonazis" and "registered Republicans" aren't allowed to hurt anyone.

"Oppressed women" and "slam poets" are allowed to hurt certain people.

Of course, we don't talk about the "oppressed v. oppressed" hurting incidents.

Democrats "Neo Nazis are bad"

Also Democrats....

Democrats when talking about Neo-Nazis in Ukraine "Here's a Machine gun, tank, and long ranged missiles, I hope you'll allow us to pay for your border security and economy while you're fighting the Russians"


It's amazing what the simple label of "Ukrainian" does to the Neo-Nazi brand.

[LeftIsBest-James]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Opprinnelig skrevet av LeftIsBest-James:

She hates her dad. Her mom had drug problems.
Again, she was not LGBT (she had a boyfriend). She was a NEO-NAZI. Timestamp 2:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x18wWUqh1gs

Not what I asked.
If she was an "abused and oppressed gay woman", would that have justified her shooting up a Christian school library?

Not interested in hypotheticals.
She was a neo-nazi. She shot up a christian school.
She was straight.

[Holografix]

Opprinnelig skrevet av LeftIsBest-James:

She hates her dad. Her mom had drug problems.
Again, she was not LGBT (she had a boyfriend). She was a NEO-NAZI.

school shootings are terrible events. thoughts and prayers.

[Cee]

Opprinnelig skrevet av LeftIsBest-James:

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Not what I asked.
If she was an "abused and oppressed gay woman", would that have justified her shooting up a Christian school library?

Not interested in hypotheticals.
She was a neo-nazi. She shot up a christian school.
She was straight.

she literally posted the "ok" symbol with the manifesto before shooting on twitter, like, that is one hundred percent just a neo-nazi far-right person lol. she talked about hard n-words and "instead of a suicide, i should commit a gene-cleanse". she also praised a turkish and a serbian(?) far-right shooters in her manifesto/posts.

[Cee]

whats with the whole "she's trans" when she's literally just a neo-nazi? do you want to defend neo-nazis by calling them trans instead? whats wrong with u

[MinionJoe]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muse:

Opprinnelig skrevet av LeftIsBest-James:

Not interested in hypotheticals.
She was a neo-nazi. She shot up a christian school.
She was straight.

she literally posted the "ok" symbol with the manifesto before shooting on twitter, like, that is one hundred percent just a neo-nazi far-right person lol. she talked about hard n-words and "instead of a suicide, i should commit a gene-cleanse". she also praised a turkish and a serbian(?) far-right shooters in her manifesto/posts.

Would've been OK if she "Targeted Cr*ckers with white privlages" though, right?

[Cee]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muse:

she literally posted the "ok" symbol with the manifesto before shooting on twitter, like, that is one hundred percent just a neo-nazi far-right person lol. she talked about hard n-words and "instead of a suicide, i should commit a gene-cleanse". she also praised a turkish and a serbian(?) far-right shooters in her manifesto/posts.

Would've been OK if she "Targeted Cr*ckers with white privlages" though, right?

no.
next question, please

[MinionJoe]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muse:

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Would've been OK if she "Targeted Cr*ckers with white privlages" though, right?

no.
next question, please

So you denounce the 2023 shooting in Nashville then?

[Cee]

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muse:

no.
next question, please

So you denounce the 2023 shooting in Nashville then?

yes.
next question, please

[MinionJoe]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muse:

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

So you denounce the 2023 shooting in Nashville then?

yes.
next question, please

No further questions. I'm honestly glad you hear you don't condone school shootings of any sort, regardless of labels that have been applied to the shooters.

I wish more people would do the same.

[Quillithe]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muse:

Opprinnelig skrevet av MinionJoe:

So you denounce the 2023 shooting in Nashville then?

yes.
next question, please

Seriously what kind of question is that?

Hot take here, but I think most people can agree that shooting a bunch of children in school is bad actually no matter who the children are and what school it is.

[MinionJoe]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Quillithe:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muse:

yes.
next question, please

Seriously what kind of question is that?

Hot take here, but I think most people can agree that shooting a bunch of children in school is bad actually no matter who the children are and what school it is.

I agree. Labelling any specific shooter as a "neonazi" or a "transman" is irrelevant. They're school shooters.

In all honesty, such "labels" might be useful in determining the person's ultimate motives as a measure to identify and prevent similar events in the future, but too many people take those labels to justify the event or to associate unrelated parties to it.

And while neonazis are reprehensible, they're not out there as a group shooting up schools.

[Cee]

now here's my question, if you may entertain;

there's proof that the shooter praised Turkish far-right mass-gathering attackers such as Arda Küçükyetim (who wore the black sun in his clothing). i think it is very fair to call the shooter a far right person, just like it is fair to call some "ultra communist" shooter an "ultra communist". would you agree?