Le fishe au chocolat (Ausgeschlossen) 13. Dez. 2023 um 6:00
What would you choose, CD or digital format, for music?
CD contains high quality of sound, meanwhile stream service has a wide range of selection.

I really love playing a CD, because it sounds the best with speakers.

In other hand, a lot of songs don't have their own physical form. That's why I play them via Spotify. But, somehow these Spotify songs sound weird on speakers despite they sound well with headphone. I'm sure it isn't my speakers' problem because it goes well with FLAC files ripped off from CD.

Because of that, I always choose CD when a new album released.

How about you?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lithurge:
Being picky CD is digital. Quality comes down to the bit rate being used to encode the music, CD's are 1141kbps, Spotify is a quarter of that if you use premium, less if you're on the free version.

So yeah if you want best quality from the two options go CD.
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I still buy physical CDs, rip them to FLAC, then put the discs into storage. FLACs are on a NAS and I just play those thru ROON/multi-room system.

I’ll also buy high-res 24-bit downloads. Although I pay for the likes of Qobuz and Spotify I rarely just stream from those services.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ulfrinn:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Devsman:
Hey, you know what you should do? You should get a Bluray player and listen to these:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Fidelity_Pure_Audio

24 bits at 96k (or even 192k) as opposed to 16 bits at 44.1k

You wouldn't hear a difference. And I can explain why.

Sampling rate, measures in khz, is 2x the maximum frequency response that the digital audio file can accurate reproduce the sound wave of. So 44,100khz can accurately reproduce frequencies up to 22,050hz. 192khz can accurately reproduce frequencies up to 86,000hz. Guess what your hearing goes up to? A child's maxes out at about 20,000hz, an that drops down to about 15,000hz as to reach full adulthood. No music is even going to come close to that full 15,0000khz.

The other measurements, bitrate, determines the dynamic range of the audio, how loud and quiet the loudest and quietest parts can be. The dynamic range of 16 bit is already as such that if it was actually fully utilized in audio, in order for you to be able to hear the quietest details, the loudest components would causing permanent hearing damage. As such, no music comes close to the full capabilities of 16 bit. Therefor, MORE bits does absolutely nothing.

In short, people selling you on paying more for 24 bit 96khz or 192khz audio are blowing smoke up your ass, and any different you think you may hear between the two is one of two things. Either it's completely and entirely placebo effect, or a higher quality mix, with better dynamic range is utilized, however, the amount of dynamic range utilized, would still EASILY fit within the capabilities of 16 bit. You will even find some CD pressings that sound this good, especially discs pressed in the 80s which used the same mixes that were being used to press vinyl. By time the late 90's came around, CDs were using heavily compressed mixes that sounded like trash. Again, this is all on the mix, not the sampling or bitrate.
I guess it wasn't clear but I was being sarcastic. My other option was to get into a 2000 post argument about how I was talking about the semantic instead of the specification, and why he picked Spotify out of the nether when audio files are available (or can be made) in lots of different qualities and blah blah. I'm honestly not even sure he quoted the right post.

But that wouldn't have been as fun as recommending something as laughably impractical as buying a Blu-ray player, presumably hooking it up to a TV or some kind of audio adapter and buying a bunch of FIFTY GB discs in the pursuit of biggerer and higherer numbers.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Devsman; 14. Dez. 2023 um 5:24
Vinyl/CD but stored digitally on a local system (in FLAC).
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von HMSNeptune:
CD contains high quality of sound, meanwhile stream service has a wide range of selection.

I really love playing a CD, because it sounds the best with speakers.

In other hand, a lot of songs don't have their own physical form. That's why I play them via Spotify. But, somehow these Spotify songs sound weird on speakers despite they sound well with headphone. I'm sure it isn't my speakers' problem because it goes well with FLAC files ripped off from CD.

Because of that, I always choose CD when a new album released.

How about you?

I never download music. I just listen to it on YouTube,simple.
I buy digital first every time, IF and only if I can get a 1411kbps aiff or wav
wesnef 14. Dez. 2023 um 5:28 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von HMSNeptune:
CD contains high quality of sound,

<sound of a million audiophiles screaming in pain>

:D

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I prefer CDs, but then rip them to MP3s and install them on my music device.

I don't stream.
CDs for me. Even when I listen digitally, it's to files ripped to my computer from disc. Hell, I even bought an older car so it'd have a CD player in the dash.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von secuda:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Paratech2008:
CDs can be ripped into MP3 files, so you can have both.
Nothing screams 90s as cd and mp3.
I am glad we moved on.

what is wrong with MP3 ?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hobbit XIII:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von secuda:
Nothing screams 90s as cd and mp3.
I am glad we moved on.

what is wrong with MP3 ?

It's compressed meaning you lose details in the music as a sacrifice to get the file size down.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von secuda:
Nothing screams 90s as cd and mp3.
I am glad we moved on.

what is wrong with MP3 ?

Its just theoretically not as good, but the codecs been under open development for so long its been refined to the point where its impossible for a normal person to tell a high bitrate mp3 from the newer lossy ones.

That being said its lossy so its better to go flac.

People nerf it all down to bluetooth audio when they listen anyways, these are just archival concerns.
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Why buy an album lol free on youtube and spotify xd xd xd xd
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Schamyl006:
Why buy an album lol free on youtube and spotify xd xd xd xd
yeah man but youtube has dem addvertiesemnts what if you were listening to ur favorite limp bixkit albim and then there s an advertiesemtn before and after every song that would just ruin the immersion completely and utterly
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I understand all the arguments. But I'm not picky. There is no perfect sound without acoustic room treatment. As long as the source isn't too lossy, it's fine.
Digital. Why would I want to carry around CD cases when I can just turn Spotify on my phone and play 1000 different songs on my playlist? I can't even remember the last CD I bought.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nülliflower:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Schamyl006:
Why buy an album lol free on youtube and spotify xd xd xd xd
yeah man but youtube has dem addvertiesemnts what if you were listening to ur favorite limp bixkit albim and then there s an advertiesemtn before and after every song that would just ruin the immersion completely and utterly
If I were listening to Limp Bizkit, I'd be relieved to hear an ad.

"Awwww yeaaaaah dis elevator music in the background of a Prilosec ad SLAPS."
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