Is 6 dollars a lot of money?

[Tsuginami]

Today on Steam I went looking for a game that I watched some YouTubers play and then I saw that it was practically R$30 reais here in Brazil.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2506160/Fears_to_Fathom__Ironbark_Lookout/

The point is, here in Brazil 30 reais is money that can easily survive for a whole day and that makes me wonder how inflation breaks the gaming industry so badly for us. Is 6 dollars a lot of money? Can you do anything in the USA and derivatives?

[potato]

games are a luxury, not a necessity

[MinionJoe]

In the USA, $6USD doesn't even buy you a decent lunch anymore. In my area, it will buy you almost 2 gallons of 87 octane gasoline. Last time I ate out, $6 is what I tipped the wait staff.

[Psycho]

$6 is nothing in the USA

[Tsuginami]

Originally posted by MinionJoe:

In the USA, $6USD doesn't even buy you a decent lunch anymore. In my area, it will buy you almost 2 gallons of 87 octane gasoline. Last time I ate out, $6 is what I tipped the wait staff.

This is bizarre. At the moment I made the post, a Brazilian already called me poor without any sense (That explains why I prefer your community here).

The point is, things are relatively expensive, I'm not going to say that the game should be cheaper, in fact indie games have their merit and it's important that they are as remembered as AAA ones. But looking at it this way, it's something completely out of the ordinary, with 30 reais here you can have a VERY GOOD lunch and probably still have some money left over for you to buy something else.

[76561198106954062]

That's like a single cup of coffee.

[ZZZZZ]

Originally posted by HAG - KNEEL DOWN:

Today on Steam I went looking for a game that I watched some YouTubers play and then I saw that it was practically R$30 reais here in Brazil.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2506160/Fears_to_Fathom__Ironbark_Lookout/

The point is, here in Brazil 30 reais is money that can easily survive for a whole day and that makes me wonder how inflation breaks the gaming industry so badly for us. Is 6 dollars a lot of money? Can you do anything in the USA and derivatives?

with 6 dollars u can survive a day at 90% of the world

[kilésengati]

That's the price of a very tasty rye bread here. I'd rather buy a very tasty rye bread and wait for a sale.

[Dutchgamer1982]

NIBUD (an organisation in my nation to estimate costs of living to advise how much welfare is fair)

states an adult male needs 8.50 euro per day bare minimum to fully feed himself not corrected for household size.

corrected for household size :
1 adult, living alone : 9.35 euro
2 adults, living together 17 euro (8.50 each)
3 adults, living together : 21.70 euro (7.25 each)
4 adults, living together : 25.50 euro (6.40 each)
5 or more adults living together : 5,95 euro each

thats just food, so it does not include the cost for non food groceries.
it also is the bare minimum.

minimumwage (based on 40hr a week work) is about 2000 euro before taxes
after taxes thats 1850 euro.
per hour before taxes the minimumwage is € 13,25

welfare, based on those nibut amounts is 70% of that, so around 1400 euro before taxes
after taxes thats about 1300 euro

so for all costs of living combined.. you will need about 44 euro a day minimum.

does that gives you an idea how much 6 euro is?


if not : 6 euro buys you :

-8 liter of milk
OR
-3 liter of coca cola
OR
-3 liter of fuel for your car
OR
-2.5 loafs of bread
OR
-halve a kilo of cheese
OR'
-a quarter of a kilo of ground coffee

if ordering takeout it will buy you
1 burger/sandwich/small pizza, without a drink.

[Dutchgamer1982]

most efficient spending of the 5.89 euro this game costs :

oatmeal 500g : 0.78
milk skimmed 1l : 0.94
fresh pea soup package : 2.99
smoked sauage 1.19

-> oatmeal for breakfast and lunch
and a heartly peasoup for dinner.

you aint got money with just 6 euro to add some fruit, snacks or anything but tabwater to drink./

[Tsuginami]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

most efficient spending of the 5.89 euro this game costs :

oatmeal 500g : 0.78
milk skimmed 1l : 0.94
fresh pea soup package : 2.99
smoked sauage 1.19

-> oatmeal for breakfast and lunch
and a heartly peasoup for dinner.

you aint got money with just 6 euro to add some fruit, snacks or anything but tabwater to drink./

So apparently the problem isn't just here, haha. Indeed, potato is right when he says that games are a luxury, not a necessity. But either way, it's an unfair price based on how you can spend that same amount on other things.

[Devsman]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

6 euro buys you :

-8 liter of milk
OR
-3 liter of coca cola
OR
-3 liter of fuel for your car
OR
-2.5 loafs of bread
OR
-halve a kilo of cheese
OR'
-a quarter of a kilo of ground coffee

So you go give them six euro and 8 liters of milk, and they call it even?

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by HAG - KNEEL DOWN:

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

most efficient spending of the 5.89 euro this game costs :

oatmeal 500g : 0.78
milk skimmed 1l : 0.94
fresh pea soup package : 2.99
smoked sauage 1.19

-> oatmeal for breakfast and lunch
and a heartly peasoup for dinner.

you aint got money with just 6 euro to add some fruit, snacks or anything but tabwater to drink./

So apparently the problem isn't just here, haha. Indeed, potato is right when he says that games are a luxury, not a necessity. But either way, it's an unfair price based on how you can spend that same amount on other things.

I eat out and spend 40 euro.
I order a large pizza and spend 20 euro

games are luxeries.
a full AAA game costs generally 60 euro at launch.
after a year that should drop to 30 euro
after two years to 15 euro
and after 3 year 5 euro... (and stay that)

a non AAA game likely should cost cosiderable less..

one should compare the game to other games.
**how large was the development team & how much labour hours and money was spend on creating it.
**how old is the game

based on that you can estimate if a game is priced fairly.

generally steam games are priced 15% higher during sales than games all year round are in retail.
outside sales steam games are INSANELY overpriced.

people righlyfully don't see a game 90% discounted as "saving money"
but as "the only time of the year you pay a more or less fair price"

a normal product is never discounted THAT much.
a 10-20% discount is the most you realisticly will see in any sensible pricing sceme.
if products are discounted more than 20% it's fishy.

since steaam stopped quality control plenty of those little indie game have played the lets put 10x the price we actualy want as our price and go 90% discount each sale.
but if you compare them to similair product you'll find they are massively overpriced.

[Tsuginami]

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

Originally posted by HAG - KNEEL DOWN:

So apparently the problem isn't just here, haha. Indeed, potato is right when he says that games are a luxury, not a necessity. But either way, it's an unfair price based on how you can spend that same amount on other things.

I eat out and spend 40 euro.
I order a large pizza and spend 20 euro

games are luxeries.
a full AAA game costs generally 60 euro at launch.
after a year that should drop to 30 euro
after two years to 15 euro
and after 3 year 5 euro... (and stay that)

a non AAA game likely should cost cosiderable less..

one should compare the game to other games.
**how large was the development team & how much labour hours and money was spend on creating it.
**how old is the game

based on that you can estimate if a game is priced fairly.

generally steam games are priced 15% higher during sales than games all year round are in retail.
outside sales steam games are INSANELY overpriced.

people righlyfully don't see a game 90% discounted as "saving money"
but as "the only time of the year you pay a more or less fair price"

a normal product is never discounted THAT much.
a 10-20% discount is the most you realisticly will see in any sensible pricing sceme.
if products are discounted more than 20% it's fishy.

since steaam stopped quality control plenty of those little indie game have played the lets put 10x the price we actualy want as our price and go 90% discount each sale.
but if you compare them to similair product you'll find they are massively overpriced.

One of the indie games that I know that are always at the MAXIMUM with 10 to 20% off is Omori, it really is a masterpiece of indie games.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1150690/OMORI/

Anyway, in this case, the best option is for me to wait for a sale, probably the Christmas one, and then buy these little things. Because it's really impossible for me to think about buying a game like this for the original price. This is not to belittle the work done, but rather a common sense of knowing how to spend money.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Originally posted by HAG - KNEEL DOWN:

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:

I eat out and spend 40 euro.
I order a large pizza and spend 20 euro

games are luxeries.
a full AAA game costs generally 60 euro at launch.
after a year that should drop to 30 euro
after two years to 15 euro
and after 3 year 5 euro... (and stay that)

a non AAA game likely should cost cosiderable less..

one should compare the game to other games.
**how large was the development team & how much labour hours and money was spend on creating it.
**how old is the game

based on that you can estimate if a game is priced fairly.

generally steam games are priced 15% higher during sales than games all year round are in retail.
outside sales steam games are INSANELY overpriced.

people righlyfully don't see a game 90% discounted as "saving money"
but as "the only time of the year you pay a more or less fair price"

a normal product is never discounted THAT much.
a 10-20% discount is the most you realisticly will see in any sensible pricing sceme.
if products are discounted more than 20% it's fishy.

since steaam stopped quality control plenty of those little indie game have played the lets put 10x the price we actualy want as our price and go 90% discount each sale.
but if you compare them to similair product you'll find they are massively overpriced.

One of the indie games that I know that are always at the MAXIMUM with 10 to 20% off is Omori, it really is a masterpiece of indie games.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1150690/OMORI/

Anyway, in this case, the best option is for me to wait for a sale, probably the Christmas one, and then buy these little things. Because it's really impossible for me to think about buying a game like this for the original price. This is not to belittle the work done, but rather a common sense of knowing how to spend money.

**if you already know a product will be cheaper at a later time.
than it is upto you if it is worth as much money to own it earlier.

[Ganger]

$6.00 = £4.75+ (give or take). In britain, that would buy you a coffee and slice of toast in a cafe.
Or you can feed a family of 4 one meal if you shop carefully.

And no $6.00 is no longer a lot of money in the western world.