Iggy Wolf 2023 年 11 月 12 日 下午 12:51
What do you guys think is the reason the MCU/Disney is failing?
I mean, money wise, I'm sure you can say they're still doing financially well, but in terms of their movies pulling the same numbers and interest as the Infinity Saga, they've obviously been lacking. So I'm curious to hear people's thoughts here as to why that is and what people think are the reasons for their poor reception.
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Tito Shivan 2023 年 11 月 12 日 下午 3:28 
引用自 Iggy Wolf
What do you guys think is the reason the MCU/Disney is failing?
MCU? 15 years of superhero movies erode even the strongest rock. But IMO their largest problem is they've turned consuming Marvel products into homework. They're Pokemon. You need to 'see them all' to get the full experience, and every time there's more stuff to watch... And each day more and more people "ain't got time fo dat". I sure haven't

Star Wars? I don't think they had a real plan for the IP other than milk it somehow. The MCU had a solid project behind since day one. With Star Wars they were probably thinking on Disney World more than on cinemas.
Your_White_Knight 2023 年 11 月 12 日 下午 3:36 
引用自 Iggy Wolf
What do you guys think is the reason the MCU/Disney is failing?

I mean, money wise, I'm sure you can say they're still doing financially well, but in terms of their movies pulling the same numbers and interest as the Infinity Saga, they've obviously been lacking. So I'm curious to hear people's thoughts here as to why that is and what people think are the reasons for their poor reception.

Well first they aren't doing well financially... their stocks are at a 10 year low losing money daily

Because Dismaly decided instead of entertaining they would preach their social and political hot-takes in their "entertainment"... and people stopped spending money on that hot garbage.

People don't want to be lectured, gaslighted and forced propaganda....

They want to be entertained... or they'll go elsewhere
kingjames488 2023 年 11 月 12 日 下午 3:39 
MCU = because everyone is tired of re-done spiderman

disney = because everyone is tired of their woke reamkes and them ruining starwars
Holografix 2023 年 11 月 12 日 下午 3:41 
引用自 Iggy Wolf
I mean, money wise, I'm sure you can say they're still doing financially well, but in terms of their movies pulling the same numbers and interest as the Infinity Saga, they've obviously been lacking. So I'm curious to hear people's thoughts here as to why that is and what people think are the reasons for their poor reception.
The reason is Covid. People aren't going to the theaters as much.

Marvel films are ok, they're not great. Personally, the best thing about a Marvel movie is how they transform a comic book hero/villian/character into a real life counterpart. So I was interested to see how She-Hulk would come to life, how Domino would be portrayed, how Namor would be portrayed, Kang the Conqueror, etc...

But i thought the Infinity Saga was overly melodramatic. It seems as though Marvel is always doing these, IT"S THE END OF THE WORLD!!! scenarios over and over again, which can get boring.

I am looking forward to Phase 5 of course. Can't wait to see how the Fantastic Four turns out, or Feige's take on the Xmen.
Xautos 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:41 
引用自 Holografix
The reason is Covid. People aren't going to the theaters as much.

about half the reason, the other half is that people grew a brain and realised you can watch your films digitally. cinema's have been struggling since then to get back into the swing of things, but like CD re-writable discs, they got replaced by USB and SD cards as a better and more reliable means to store information, eventually CD's got replaced on the market but they still exist in a minor capacity, struggling along until the technology has past it by and it disappears altogether.

Cinema's could be looking at its end if digital services offer it all cheaper and at a better quality than in some noisy room full of people trying to hear the film on the big screen. you can do all the cinema's can do at home without risking yourself to do it.
Funky Monk 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:42 
quantity over quality and garbage writing
最後修改者:Funky Monk; 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:44
Dutchgamer1982 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:43 
go woke, go broke.

people like harmless family friendly entertainment.
people not like to pay to be insulted and fed propaganda that is made by people that could not tell en entertaining story if their life dependend on it.

basicly :
replacing every white male hero person for a female of colour
but when a hero already is coloured, not open that one up for a white cast
rewriting the lore.. basicly insulting you for ever liking what you liked in the past
"females are the bestest ever"
sprinkling lgbtq everywhere they caan..

it is not even subtile.. and it is tiresome..

star trek, star wars, doctor who, most of the disney cartoons, the mcu
it all has been spoiled and ruined.

the woke not cares.. they keep ruining our culture one property at a time.

最後修改者:Dutchgamer1982; 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:48
Tito Shivan 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:47 
引用自 Dutchgamer1982
people like harmless family friendly entertainment.
You can't get more harmless and family friendly than Disney.
Dutchgamer1982 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:49 
引用自 Tito Shivan
引用自 Dutchgamer1982
people like harmless family friendly entertainment.
You can't get more harmless and family friendly than Disney.

not since they became a institute that hated on their customers for liking what they made in the past.. and selling propaganda instead of entertainment.

disney has not be family friendly nor entertaining in quite some time now.
and they shame you for liking their old content.. made before ..
最後修改者:Dutchgamer1982; 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:49
vkobe 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:51 
nice thing only be nice when we consume them with moderation

but turn bad when you abuse a little too much

sorry but 10 movie and show by year just turn that into meh movie or show

so people just want something new than your usual food movie or show
kingjames488 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:51 
imagine the titanic... but it didn't sink

or harry potter... but dumbledore doesn't die.

ya, "disney".
Holografix 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:58 
引用自 Xautos
引用自 Holografix
The reason is Covid. People aren't going to the theaters as much.

about half the reason, the other half is that people grew a brain and realised you can watch your films digitally. cinema's have been struggling since then to get back into the swing of things, but like CD re-writable discs, they got replaced by USB and SD cards as a better and more reliable means to store information, eventually CD's got replaced on the market but they still exist in a minor capacity, struggling along until the technology has past it by and it disappears altogether.

Cinema's could be looking at its end if digital services offer it all cheaper and at a better quality than in some noisy room full of people trying to hear the film on the big screen. you can do all the cinema's can do at home without risking yourself to do it.
i don't think digital streaming has the same impact as seeing a film in a theatre. There is something special and unique about seeing a film on a huge screen with loud sound. So no, i don't think movie theatres are outmoded by people trying to see a film on an iphone. It's not the same experience.

it was all because of covid.
最後修改者:Holografix; 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:59
wesnef 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 12:59 
They lost focus after finishing the whole Infinity arc. The original movies felt like they were adding together and building towards something, and then we got the first Avengers. The next set did the same, and so on up to Infinity War.
The stuff since then just seems random. There's no sense that it's adding together into something.


(meanwhile, I dream of a day when these "hur dur, evul woke wimmins!" troglodytes grow out of it. But it probably won't happen, "anti everything" has entrenched itself in the Faux News/MAGA echo chamber. Manufactured culture war after manufactured culture war, all to keep the drones angry and voting to destroy America.)
Xautos 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 1:02 
引用自 Holografix
引用自 Xautos

about half the reason, the other half is that people grew a brain and realised you can watch your films digitally. cinema's have been struggling since then to get back into the swing of things, but like CD re-writable discs, they got replaced by USB and SD cards as a better and more reliable means to store information, eventually CD's got replaced on the market but they still exist in a minor capacity, struggling along until the technology has past it by and it disappears altogether.

Cinema's could be looking at its end if digital services offer it all cheaper and at a better quality than in some noisy room full of people trying to hear the film on the big screen. you can do all the cinema's can do at home without risking yourself to do it.
i don't think digital streaming has the same impact as seeing a film in a theatre. There is something special and unique about seeing a film on a huge screen with loud sound. So no, i don't think movie theatres are outmoded by people trying to see a film on an iphone. It's not the same experience.

it was all because of covid.

Big screen tv's with custom sound blasters on each side, nice comfortable armchairs, popcorn and drink. you can create the experience easily enough with enough people at the event at home.

best thing about seeing the first film through, you can load up a second right away and waste 4-6 hours just enjoy films. the value digital brings puts a cinema to shame.
gugnihr 2023 年 11 月 14 日 下午 1:14 
I do not understand why Marvel became popular in the first place, I never liked it.

I do not know much about the movies because well I dion't know much about Marvelin general, just the bare minimum to know that I don't like it, but even from the few information Iknow it is very obvious why MCU is failing:

1) annoying manipulative brainwash disrespectful towards the established canon instead of good entertainment for the sake of entertainment faithful to the established canon that fans are fond of

2) those movies areinterconnected with each other and with tv shows too, you need to follow all of this stuff to fully understand them. This alone would be way too demanding for simple movie entertasinment, couple this with what I have said above

3) I have also heard that visual quality of recent movies became much worse than what it used to be at first.

Anyway, I will never understand how / why Marvel became popula, but those things above would destroy almost any franchise (#2, at least to some extent, if not pushed too far, could be a positive trait for products that are less expensive than movies... like cheap books or tv shows that you can watch for free... but a movie imo should be enjoyable on its own to be good)
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