Nikotine Pouches / Snus

[pza]

[You dont need to read everything! Just read the basic question, marked with "----"]

I have a question regarding Snus (Yeah the original Snus, made in Sweden, with Tobacco, and not only Nicotine)

Its supposed to be consumed by my gums right (Obviously under my Lip/s)?

Im just asking, because i "normaly" i suck a little bit on them or press them against my teeth, so i can either swallow or spit out the juice (Im doing it 50/50 so far, cause im new to it)

This is just the 4th time i tried them and while i hated it the first times, im falling in love with it right now, cause i can use it while gaming especially, but also while going to the cinema for example.

And studys show that its 95% to 99% less dangerous then smoking in ALL instances! Many people speak of older studys, but newer Studys show that its even WAY MORE healthy for the mouth, like cigarettes are, wich still got a MUCH higher chance for mouth or nose cancer.

Now the real Question: Fact is tho... Without much sucking i dont really get my mouth full of nicotine, if i put it more on the rightest or leftest side under my gum. I only have it with lemon taste.

And im tasting it. But only very slightly! The taste of Salt, Lemon and Tobacco

Does it still work like that tho? Because i feel like im getting more hyped from it, more active, like under a coffee or energy drink overdose, because i was getting tired before i put it there. But because i only use it for the fourth time im not totaly 100% sure if thats just fake.

Its definitely real if i press on it or suck it and swallow. But i feel like its even better to just leave it there. Cause like that it holds for a MUCH LONGER amount of time.

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Basic question is: Is it enough to put it under my lip, without sucking on it, even if i only taste it very very slightly (almost not at all), to still give me the (pushing, getting awake) effect?

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In this Thread you can also write about other topics regardings this stuff if you want! Same with all sorts of jewing tobacco, or even "fake" Snus or Jewing Tobacco. As long as you answer my question first, at least if you are able to please!

I posted it in the steam forums cause im not active on social media and im not active in other communitys, besides a movie and music community. But they dont have Offtopic Forums! ;)

BTW: There are so many kinds of it. I think the size of the pouches are middle (Maaybe Small) and both: The tobacco and the outside are DRY before you putting it in! Saying that cause there are bigger pouches and tobacco that is wet, and also tobacco AND the outside that is wet.

[Pools2013]

Wow, long thread.

[pza]

Pools2013 a écrit :

Wow, long thread.

its not that long :D ever read a book?

but thats why i marked it:

Basic question is: Is it enough to put it under my lip, without sucking on it, even if i only taste it very very slightly (almost not at all), to still give me the (pushing, getting awake) effect?

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and the longer question (marked also):

Now the real Question: Fact is tho... Without much sucking i dont really get my mouth full of nicotine, if i put it more on the rightest or leftest side under my gum. I only have it with lemon taste.

And im tasting it. But only very slightly! The taste of Salt, Lemon and Tobacco

Does it still work like that tho? Because i feel like im getting more hyped from it, more active, like under coffee, because i was getting tired before i put it there. But because i only use it for the fourth time im not totaly 100% sure if thats just fake.

Its definitely real if i press on it or suck it and swallow. But i feel like its even better to just leave it there. Cause like that it holds for a MUCH LONGER amount of time.

[pza]

Okay ive marked it even better now!

BTW: There are so many kinds of it. I think the size of the pouches are middle (Maaybe Small) and both: The tobacco and the outside are DRY before you putting it in!

Saying that cause there are bigger pouches and tobacco that is wet, and also tobacco AND the outside that is wet.

[HOBO ACTUAL]

Funny you mention this as I’ve just started using snus as an alternative to smoking and i haven’t smoked or vaped in a long time cause of it. And yes it should be enough to just put it under your “upper lip” without sucking on it. If you find the max strength one’s suddenly stop hitting as hard just move up to the crazy high nicotine content one’s or take a break from having so many then try again. Found out my army buddy has these ones in a black pouch that actually are hella strong. Can’t keep it in more than a couple minutes at a time. But it’s better to keep it in your upper lip as you swallow less of the juices as I don’t think you should be “sucking” on them. Not terrible for you but just tastes bad and that not the point of them.

[Birds]

Your saliva needs to dissolve the nicotine in the pouch in order to experience a high from it, and sucking is the primary method of cycling saliva.

It will also absorb through the gums, without sucking or cycling saliva, but over time this will leave a visible indent and discolored portion in the gums.

Nicotine is also a carcinogenic, and approximately 13% more carcinogenic than smoke.

[pza]

thanks guys! espescially hobo! cause i think birds you are a bit wrong.. cause i definitely get a rush from keeping it under my lip

funny that youve started that too hobo! ;)

@birds read all the newest science. snus is almost as save as not taking it at all. smoking is 100000% more harmful. ive read A LOT of scientific papers about it.

[Pieshaman]

snus is pretty bad stuff, especially old snus or poorly kept is high on nitrosamines which can give cancer.
the reason why it is banned in EU countries, but Sweden managed to force exeptions when they joined in 1995

[Chaosolous]

Those studies are inaccurate of 99% to 95% safer. They were paid for by the tobacco industry. Follow the money.

Snus, dip, and any other oral nicotine increases your risk or oral and throat cancer significantly.

You do you but that’sa very naive belief.

I personally know someone whose entire lower jaw had to be removed due to oral nicotine usage.

There’s no healthy/“safe” way to consume nicotine as far as I’m aware.

[De Hollandse Ezel]

snus in my nation have been banned as the drugs they are.

just as esigarettes are banned

they are seen as products targetting kids and making them adicted therefor banned.

canabis is not banned but highly regulated these days (need to be native dutch 21yo register to get a permit and only can buy once a week with that permit a limited amount at a coffee shop)

tobacco is each year more regulated. *smoking banned from all restaurant
*smoking banned from the entire area of all airports, public transport stations
* smoking banned from all workspaces
* smoking banned from all hospitals invluding the grounds surrounding them
starting next year it will also be banned to sell tobacco in supermarkets.
-it is a matter of time before tobacco will be outright banned.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

In the military I knew a guy who sold them in the barracks. He brought them from Sweden. The NCOs were his frequent customers.

[pza]

@chaos typical young, unexperienced, loud steam forum user, whos so full and sure of himself, even if untrue. cause you are WRONG!

no its not paid by the tobacco companys

i always follow the money

im talkig about very new studies, some created by western governments, some by scientist groups, MANY even by anti-smoking groups, cause they saw the MASSIVE pros in it and the help it gives to smokers!

please dont talk stuff you dont know about!

LOOK IT UP! google it!

even mouth cancer got a WAY WAY WAYYY higher chance with cigarettes! same with nose cancer! YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLY NAIVE AND YOU ARE FOLLOWING YEARS OLD STUDYS THAT GOT ALL DEBUNKED! AND NOT BY BIG TOBACCO!

btw: the mouth and nose cancer chance is SOOOO LOW that it can be ignored.

cause people do this to smoke less! so its a GREAT and AMAZING THING!

also.. at least chewing tobacco has a pushing, feeling good effect, while cigarettes are totaly useless and just make you feel like sh*t if you smoking too much!

inform yourself! theres also snus without any tobacco or nicotine for unnecessarily scared people like you!

im done arguing tho.. thats not what i wanted here.

im not even a "big guy on chewing tobacco"

i think all tobacco is stu*pid... i just like it every few weeks or months! to watch a movie in the cinema or the play a game i need to be more concentrated on! so no: it definitely doesnt endanger my body.

but im done fighting. so please: talk positive. even if its hard for steam people.

there are always dangers in life! rather talk about positive stuff about it! ESPECIALLY if all real, new scientific studies are EXTREMELY POSITIVE!!

and this comes from a guy who wants all drugs legal ASAP!

THIS IS A POSITIVE; INFORMATIVE THREAD ABOUT CHEWING TOBACCO! nobody cares about negative talk.. especially when its not true!

Use google! Ask the companys who tested it! Get the newest scientific results from the labs and follow the money! I did all of that, and you could not be more wrong in that case!

[AD]

Everyone I have seen has put it between their upper lip and their teeth. Never used it myself, though, its too addictive for my taste, so I cannot really say more then that.

[pza]

@to all the other nice people, besides "chaos" and "pieshaman" and "bird" (I still love you guys, even if you were totaly wrong!): thanks for your participation! :) very informative!

have a nice friday and a great start into the weekend!

BTW: the tobacco lobby wants to PUSH cigarettes! cause SNUS is way less dangerous and addicting and people stop smoking with it and take it way less often!

So there never (and if rarely, i never saw it) a big tobacco sponsored scientist! it just doesnt make ANY sense!

[Chaosolous]

Alright. I’ll let my buddy know that he’s missing his jaw for some other reason then. Thanks for clarifying, appreciate the points too.

[pza]

Chaosolous a écrit :

Alright. I’ll let my buddy know that he’s missing his jaw for some other reason then. Thanks for clarifying, appreciate the points too.

:D definitely not true

you not all of a sudden missing a jaw

come on dude... stop it... its over

have a nice day but people who know, know you lying!

whatever. im out of this negativ stuff.

have a nice day anyways!