U.S. economy sucks

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

No one truly wants to work. People are having mental problems. Housing prices keep going up while working wages are stagnant. Boomers call younger generations lazy, but they're actually being smart. No one wants to work at these jobs that pay bad, have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bosses, or get laid off if a recession hits. At least in the 1950s, the man of the house could support the whole family. Now you sometimes need 2 jobs to pay for an apartment. That's capitalism for you though.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Originally posted by Grumb:

We’re definitely going to have another depression soon, but there’s no telling when

No doubt it's coming now that all these wars are going on.

[qb]

it is a moral dillemma often since if you participate in economy your tax will fund a war somewhere which perhaps is not even known.

[Pieshaman]

U.S economy does not suck at all.
you only had 2 really bad years (2009 and 2020)
what does suck hard for U.S. is it's ever growing government debt of way over 100% (136% now)
I don't think my country ever reached 100% at all. it about 50% average
If you can't fix that problem you only going to get bigger problems later on.

[GunsForBucks]

Originally posted by pp:

it is a moral dillemma often since if you participate in economy your tax will fund a war somewhere which perhaps is not even known.

Well here they even co op you further by letting you invest in war industry for profit.

Kind of sick really considering how much of a drain war is on the nation.
Why isn't war non profit?

[Ganger]

Originally posted by Pieshaman:

U.S economy does not suck at all.
you only had 2 really bad years (2009 and 2020)
what does suck hard for U.S. is it's ever growing government debt of way over 100% (136% now)
I don't think my country ever reached 100% at all. it about 50% average
If you can't fix that problem you only going to get bigger problems later on.

Will take very difficult and tough decisions to cut spending the american people I believe are not willing to bear. If america, cut their military spending in half, that would save $350 billion a year. So in ten years, the debt would of dropped by over $3.5 trillion. Again, no one would be voted into officer for cutting spending.

[Pieshaman]

Originally posted by Ganger:

Originally posted by Pieshaman:

U.S economy does not suck at all.
you only had 2 really bad years (2009 and 2020)
what does suck hard for U.S. is it's ever growing government debt of way over 100% (136% now)
I don't think my country ever reached 100% at all. it about 50% average
If you can't fix that problem you only going to get bigger problems later on.

Will take very difficult and tough decisions to cut spending the american people I believe are not willing to bear. If america, cut their military spending in half, that would save $350 billion a year. So in ten years, the debt would of dropped by over $3.5 trillion. Again, no one would be voted into officer for cutting spending.

imo america should tax business more heavy, and workers less.
where I'm from, industry and business tax is higher than people tax (or whatever it is called in english)
it is much healthier this way.
let the big corporations pay up what they should for once, instead of high tax on citizens.
Especially super filthy disgusting criminal factories of Dupont should get taxed to death.

[Yew Nough]

In my opinion: Corporate greed, bad government regulation (and in some countries: government corruption) is the reason the average economy quality of life and affordability is looking bad.


There is no reason corporations should be given grants (from our tax dollars) for purchasing homes and offering them back to us (for rent) at unreasonably high prices.

There is no reason to 'stimulate the economy' when most people can't afford to spurge (due to wages not keeping up with inflation), and those who do are using credit card debt for it.

And no one should need any years of prior experience to work at an entry-level retail/fast food job.

This kinda feels like the endgame of Monopoly where you and whatever friends are still playing have like $200 and a bunch of mortgaged properties and one person has all the money and hotels everywhere...and you're still expected to play.

I get why younger people don't care: They're aware enough to know everyone else expects to get rich off of their misfortune, and 'the only way to win is to not play'.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Not to mention people are also stealing from their jobs. I caught someone stealing hundreds of dollars worth of stuff. Our boss is also really laid back and cool so I took offense to it. My co-workers are slackers and I have to do their job as they take 2 hour breaks on a 4 hour shift. Not to mention we get paid fairly well.

The problem is that Covid destroyed the generations desire to work. I went back to work during Covid - at a hospital nonetheless. No fear! We had a few cases come through last week.

My co-workers like to see gross, disgusting, dirty hospital floors. This is highly unacceptable. Some people NEED to be SUPERVISED in order for them to even do their job. We have no supervisor. I see a lot of slackers that need supervision and cannot be mature enough to work without a supervisor watching them.

All generations, not just the younger generation; however, the younger generations slack off far more then most other older generations, but I see slackers also in the elders.

I have a disability called "Good Workers Syndrome (GWS)" which is a disorder where I get so sick to my stomach unless everyone around me is giving 110%. Side effects are pride, responsibility, and a feverish enthusiasm. It used to be a common condition among Americans.

[Pieshaman]

Originally posted by Wynters:

Not to mention people are also stealing from their jobs. I caught someone stealing hundreds of dollars worth of stuff. Our boss is also really laid back and cool so I took offense to it. My co-workers are slackers and I have to do their job as they take 2 hour breaks on a 4 hour shift. Not to mention we get paid fairly well.

The problem is that Covid destroyed the generations desire to work. I went back to work during Covid - at a hospital nonetheless. No fear! We had a few cases come through last week.

My co-workers like to see gross, disgusting, dirty hospital floors. This is highly unacceptable. Some people NEED to be SUPERVISED in order for them to even do their job. We have no supervisor. I see a lot of slackers that need supervision and cannot be mature enough to work without a supervisor watching them.

All generations, not just the younger generation; however, the younger generations slack off far more then most other older generations, but I see slackers also in the elders.

to be fair, a really laid back and cool boss is highly uncommon.
Never I stole something for home that would be missed at work.
I often stole from other departments in the past and build my own office kingdom and ended up with a better printer than I first had,a microwave, big american refrigerator (I went to bakery for stuff to fill it cause empty looked sad and let my workers eat from it whenever they fancy)
and a watercooler (sneaky stealing fresh bottle from the other side of the building was really hard work, those things are heavy!)
edit: I remember the refrigatorator got stolen back after a while, but we just ate all the sausage rolls so the damage done was minimal

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Originally posted by Pieshaman:

I often stole from other departments in the past and build my own office kingdom and ended up with a better printer than I first had,a microwave, big american refrigerator (I went to bakery for stuff to fill it cause empty looked sad and let my workers eat from it whenever they fancy)
and a watercooler (sneaky stealing fresh bottle from the other side of the building was really hard work, those things are heavy!)

That musta been a lot of pies!

[GunsForBucks]

There was a time in America when corporate profits over a certain amount were taxed at 90%

This forced them to keep prices down while investing in themselves.
Year end companies would buy things instead of having too much "profit". They invested in equipment and buildings etc that gave actual value to a business. They would give out raises to workers so they could afford to buy more things and support the economy and competition.

Since trickle down economics came in during Reagan's time there has been a focus on keeping all value out of a business and only give raises if people ask for them. That was the new model of business... keep it liquid and just let stuff die and declare bankruptcy and start over, forgetting the suffering in your wake... Trump made his empire off this.

Push until it breaks, then just fix what broke and keep pushing... that is the modern fascist business model in America

[Pieshaman]

Originally posted by Wynters:

Originally posted by Pieshaman:

I often stole from other departments in the past and build my own office kingdom and ended up with a better printer than I first had,a microwave, big american refrigerator (I went to bakery for stuff to fill it cause empty looked sad and let my workers eat from it whenever they fancy)
and a watercooler (sneaky stealing fresh bottle from the other side of the building was really hard work, those things are heavy!)

That musta been a lot of pies! :citizensurprised:

mostly apple flaps and lot of sausage rolls. I not rich enough to stuff it with pies xd

[Grumb]

Originally posted by GunsForBucks:

There was a time in America when corporate profits over a certain amount were taxed at 90%

This forced them to keep prices down while investing in themselves.
Year end companies would buy things instead of having too much "profit". They invested in equipment and buildings etc that gave actual value to a business. They would give out raises to workers so they could afford to buy more things and support the economy and competition.

Since trickle down economics came in during Reagan's time there has been a focus on keeping all value out of a business and only give raises if people ask for them. That was the new model of business... keep it liquid and just let stuff die and declare bankruptcy and start over, forgetting the suffering in your wake... Trump made his empire off this.

Push until it breaks, then just fix what broke and keep pushing... that is the modern fascist business model in America

I had no idea it worked like that prior to Reaganomics. Makes a lot of sense as to why people were generally better off. They don’t teach this stuff for a reason I suppose. I vividly remember a history teacher of mine mentioning Reaganomics for one slide and then just moving on

[Talby]

Originally posted by BlackDragon875:

...That's capitalism for you though.

it can work, it is the corruption that is the problem. Bidenomics is simply the result of the most corrupt policies, we did not have these problems during #45, and are literally just passing the mark set by Carter for the most recent US economy downturn ever.

[Ganger]

Originally posted by Wynters:

Not to mention people are also stealing from their jobs. I caught someone stealing hundreds of dollars worth of stuff

When I left college and started working as a kitchen hand/cleaner at this mental health home and I too noticed, staff stealing food and other stuff for this place. Then when I started nursing, I witness staff stealing not only food but items meant for the clients such as shampoo's, razor blades, even spending the petty cash on themselves. I kept quite in fear for my own job/career. Years later they was a big investigation that made the news about it.

Originally posted by Wynters:

I have a disability called "Good Workers Syndrome (GWS)" which is a disorder where I get so sick to my stomach unless everyone around me is giving 110%. Side effects are pride, responsibility, and a feverish enthusiasm. It used to be a common condition among Americans.

Try not to get upset about it, do your bit and go home at the end of the shift/duty. I fully understand your feelings, been there myself. Working with others who all chip in makes a working day great, when someone slacks off, it makes the working day tougher.

Plus we all have them days, if someone isn't feeling to well, cut them some little slack and vice versa. I remember a woman I worked with once, she was proper ill and so slept in one of the clients bed most of the day, I was cool with that.