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BigF 2023 年 10 月 18 日 下午 10:36
Do you support Israel or Palestine? pls express your opinion and a respectful reason. Thank you :D
I am just a person wanna see things in both ways
最后由 BigF 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 18 日 下午 10:40
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Dracoco OwO 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:20 
I can't support either of them but i support the average peoples suffering from these conflicts all the same.
N3tRunn3r 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:23 
I am in no way a religious being, boycotting any churches, mosques and synagogues, etc, but in this case, I ever been for Palestine!

But the Hamas dont officially represent the Palestine people. These are militant islamic militia, and want to show off their anger and want to finally to act, as Israel has ever ignored, undermined and cheated on Palestine.

Israels arrogance and ignorance are now be paid by militants.. Israel's arrogance and to blackmail the whole world should finally be stopped!!

Animated map of Israel taking over historic Palestine
https://remix.aljazeera.com/aje/PalestineRemix/maps_main.html

In the last 10 years, Israel has killed over 7000 Palestinians, including dozens of reporters as a cover-up and even blamed it on the Palestinians, but ultimately to no avail. The Palestinians, on the other hand, have “only” killed 300 Israelites.

A nice difference and "hypocrisy".. right?! These figures from the last 10 years or a decade were listed online on the Washington Post. Rockets flew back and forth on a weekly basis as "banter".

Good old Arafat would be turning in his grave at what's happening right now.

Israel is anything but innocent. And the civilians on both sides now have to suffer because of this, since the arc has clearly been overreached and the attack has been planned for the 50th anniversary. Even their secret services were asleep, the oh-so-elitist ones... perhaps even with pure intention.

Egypt supposedly warned Israel more than a week before Hamas' attack, Israel ignored it and now Israel wants nothing more to do with this warning. Typical denial and twisting of facts, as always. Egypt wants to take part in the exchange of hostages, especially women.

First and foremost, this war has nothing to do with a holy war like IS or Al-Qaeda, but rather about regaining land, as was and is the case with the Taliban.

Israel has aggressively or ACTIVELY ignored and abandoned Palestine. Treaties and promises negated and undermined. Now the consequences are following, at least from Hamas, while Hezbollah and the "democratic" Palestinians look on.

A clear "act of revenge" by Hamas, but such a surprise attack on the border will no longer work in the future, because this has opened the eyes of some and the world.

This massacre done by Hamas is NOTHING compared to Africa, brutally slaughtering human which is happening there on a DAILY BASIS.. not to mention South America and their drug cartells.
最后由 N3tRunn3r 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 4:39
Candyy 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:25 
None, I am not into política :steambored:
Rio 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:29 
Its just so Sad to me that I believed in Make america great, but they showed me the right is really the party of Make Israel great. And the party of go to war with Iran. The party of Call all Palestine terrorists/hamas.

Specially fox news. I haven't watched it much since the war started, but every time its been really bad, bias so thick you could make a steak out of it.
最后由 Rio 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:31
Dracoco OwO 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:37 
引用自
Its just so Sad to me that I believed in Make america great, but they showed me the right is really the party of Make Israel great. And the party of go to war with Iran. The party of Call all Palestine terrorists/hamas.

Specially fox news. I haven't watched it much since the war started, but every time its been really bad, bias so thick you could make a steak out of it.
At least you figured that stuff out now, imagine the millions that still live in an illusion.
Kobs 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:40 
Frankly I couldn't care less about 2 countries that's been hating eachother since the dawn of time, they've always wanted to anehilate eachother for as long as I can remember so why would I care now that the media is all over them trying to find something else to divide us
Rio 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:48 
引用自 Kobs
Frankly I couldn't care less about 2 countries that's been hating eachother since the dawn of time, they've always wanted to anehilate eachother for as long as I can remember so why would I care now that the media is all over them trying to find something else to divide us

Well The ADL of Israel helps keep us divided, by not letting us talk things out honestly. By labeling things hate speech and trying to cancel platforms with free speech such as when they tried to Cancel Twitter. The ADL abuses its power to tell advertisers to boycott platforms if they don't comply with its censorship desires,

And ADL spokespersons have appeared on news to make sure they go by the right narratives. And calls to get people fired as well

https://youtu.be/u12I5_mLazI?si=8_K6xeh_9Dqd5NMy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jUhORqzB4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwNxlg24PQg
最后由 Rio 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:52
Professor 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:50 
引用自 Kobs
Frankly I couldn't care less about 2 countries that's been hating eachother since the dawn of time, they've always wanted to anehilate eachother for as long as I can remember so why would I care now that the media is all over them trying to find something else to divide us

Ignorance & burying our heads in the sand should never be an excuse for not caring. Sure it might make us feel safer if we choose to distance ourselves from human conflict. But in the end it is part of us all, for the killing of people is not something we should remain silent about. It is us we are talking about, us as one single species that has to eventually stand up for unity as a whole.
最后由 Professor 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:53
GunsForBucks 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:55 
I am only against the sociopaths that push people against each other for profit and power.

I can only feel pity and pray for those who end up their fodder.


Edit add - wow that had a lot of p's in it.
最后由 GunsForBucks 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:56
Dracoco OwO 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:56 
引用自 Professor
引用自 Kobs
Frankly I couldn't care less about 2 countries that's been hating eachother since the dawn of time, they've always wanted to anehilate eachother for as long as I can remember so why would I care now that the media is all over them trying to find something else to divide us

Ignorance & burying our heads in the sand should never be an excuse for not caring. Sure it might make us feel safer if we choose to distance ourselves from human conflict. But in the end it is part of us all, for the killing of people is not something we should remain silent about. It is us we are talking about, us as one single species that has to eventually stand up for unity as a whole.
I can't say that is true, many peoples called for Russian genocide when they were attacking Ukraine, humans are filled with peoples that all think and assess these situations differently may it be due to personnal bias or personnal emotionnal conception of things, in no way we can be qualified to act a certain "right" way that just isn't possible.
Auraplayer (Stir Crazy) 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 3:58 
Why not have the Christians rule Jerusalem? It worked out before, worth a shot trying it again. :cozycrashfish:
Professor 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 4:14 
引用自 Dracoco OwO
引用自 Professor

Ignorance & burying our heads in the sand should never be an excuse for not caring. Sure it might make us feel safer if we choose to distance ourselves from human conflict. But in the end it is part of us all, for the killing of people is not something we should remain silent about. It is us we are talking about, us as one single species that has to eventually stand up for unity as a whole.
I can't say that is true, many peoples called for Russian genocide when they were attacking Ukraine, humans are filled with peoples that all think and assess these situations differently may it be due to personnal bias or personnal emotionnal conception of things, in no way we can be qualified to act a certain "right" way that just isn't possible.

Perhaps not as we currently sit, as the world is more interested in division over unity. Honestly the destruction or oppression of any human subject is paramount to genocide towards ourselves. We seem to want to cleanse the world of opposing ideologies & forces that are hell bent on fighting for division. Any war any conflict is actually a power grab to make one more righteous than the other.

Surely by now in modern times we should be intelligent enough to understand that the desire to make my own truth the only truth a very decisive backlash against those that dont believe the same as I do. My history is the same as your history, we are connected no mater what we individually think or believe.
最后由 Professor 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 4:17
Ulfrinn 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 4:37 
I live in neither, don't plan to visit either, neither sides hands are clean, neither are innocent so I couldn't care less.
N3tRunn3r 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 4:42 
Israel is welcoming this attack to be finally "officially" able to eradicate the Gaza Strip, "legally". Probably ignored the warning of Egypt by purpose, weeks before Hamas attacked. And still Israel is attacking innocent civilians, hospitals, refugee camps, ...

And the world needs to be for Israel as Israel cries and cries and blackmails the whole world.. this arrogance needs to be stopped !!

Neither Israel nor Palestine have ever been friendly or peaceful "countries" or more like "regions".. No one should wonder what has happened lately.

As explained a page before, rockets had flown on a weekly basis launched by both sides..

Sorta the same topic exists for North and South Korea.. China and their Uyghurs and Taiwan.. There are lots of similiar conflics actually happening.. also Russia and Ukraine, Turkey against the Kurds. Do you see these similarities now?! Not to mention what is happening in Africa, the most corrupted continent. Then Central and South America..

最后由 N3tRunn3r 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 5:02
Hammer Of Evil 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 5:03 
引用自 Ulfrinn
I live in neither, don't plan to visit either, neither sides hands are clean, neither are innocent so I couldn't care less.

exactly so.

the people involved in the conflict have to want to change for leadership or diplomacy to be of any use. they do not want to change. they want to fight.

other nations can assist crushing the fighting by imposing penalty or withdrawal from treaty/trade agreements. war is bad for business and the volatility means its a bad investment regardless. can't do business when your business gets shot up by 180mm shells or shot out of the sky with surface to air missiles after all.

sending military support is not the play. it'll be afghanistan all over again. good money and lives against bad.

everyone went in thinking they knew best, well, afghanistan sure showed us that wasn't the case, was it? devolved right back to the post-societal coup d'etat of 1970's

引用自 Professor
My history is the same as your history, we are connected no mater what we individually think or believe.

bro can hear the colors and see the sounds dripping off the walls right now
最后由 Hammer Of Evil 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 19 日 上午 5:04
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