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Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
Because transmen are much rarer than transwomen :steamfacepalm: The ratio must be like 1/10 or even higher.
I don't think that's true, trans women are just disproportionately discussed in media
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Because transmen are much rarer than transwomen :steamfacepalm: The ratio must be like 1/10 or even higher.
Except you never see it, and men are supposed to be the confrontations ones, why aren't trans-men leading the charge here?

Furthermore why is it that the "gender" that gets special privileges (trans-women) is a more popular choice...

You never see what?

If you think people are "choosing" anything, you clearly don't get what dysphoria is. And men aren't always confrontational, this is just another stupid stereotype like "men like sports".
Messaggio originale di Erin:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
Because transmen are much rarer than transwomen :steamfacepalm: The ratio must be like 1/10 or even higher.
I don't think that's true, trans women are just disproportionately discussed in media

At least where I live I know it's true, there are many transwomen here but only a few transmen.
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Messaggio originale di Not Big Surprise:
as it turns out, some women do bite back
Sure, but on a whole men tend to be confrontational whereas women tend to be more agreeable.

Notice how the trans-movement tends to have trans-women fighting to good fight and not trans-men.

Sus...highly sus...
even if that was remotely true... how so?
these behavioral tendencies are just that, tendencies
they don't dictate how people behave, they are dictated by averages; they can't realistically be used to determine whether someone's gender is valid or not

Messaggio originale di Erin:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
Because transmen are much rarer than transwomen :steamfacepalm: The ratio must be like 1/10 or even higher.
I don't think that's true, trans women are just disproportionately discussed in media
also, this
people often see trans women fighting because it's us that get the most negative coverage
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
At least where I live I know it's true, there are many transwomen here but only a few transmen.
You may think that because the trans men you see pass. Or maybe you intentionally surround yourself with a lot of trans women.
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Except you never see it, and men are supposed to be the confrontations ones, why aren't trans-men leading the charge here?

Furthermore why is it that the "gender" that gets special privileges (trans-women) is a more popular choice...

You never see what?

If you think people are "choosing" anything, you clearly don't get what dysphoria is. And men aren't always confrontational, this is just another stupid stereotype like "men like sports".
Sure it's a choice. The vast majority of the people who experience gender dysphoria or gender confusion end up growing out of their phase. And remember there are also de-transitioners...people who picked the choice of trans, had various surgeries or hormonal therapy, regretted it and now are making the choice to identify back as their biological sex.

And men on a whole tend to be confrontational, whereas women tend to be agreeable. It's one of the reasons why men and women tend to pick different jobs.

And it's not just a stupid stereotype it's science, feel free to deny it like you typically do. In fact if you look into studies about why men tend to have more in upper management or CEO type jobs it's because of their willingness to be disagreeable.

In America especially places like California, they're actually making laws that try to work around that gender difference and trying to force women to be in those CEO type jobs.

The law was overturned for being against Civil Rights, but California tried to mandate that half of all boards in major companies had to be women.

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/state-and-local-updates/pages/california-court-overturns-law-requiring-women-on-boards-of-directors.aspx
Messaggio originale di Erin:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
At least where I live I know it's true, there are many transwomen here but only a few transmen.
You may think that because the trans men you see pass. Or maybe you intentionally surround yourself with a lot of trans women.
Lol, but they don't really. Men tend to be more accepting as long as more drama isn't brought to the situation.
Messaggio originale di Erin:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
At least where I live I know it's true, there are many transwomen here but only a few transmen.
You may think that because the trans men you see pass. Or maybe you intentionally surround yourself with a lot of trans women.

Nah, it's just that I live in a country known for having many transwomen. It is what it is.
Messaggio originale di Not Big Surprise:
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Sure, but on a whole men tend to be confrontational whereas women tend to be more agreeable.

Notice how the trans-movement tends to have trans-women fighting to good fight and not trans-men.

Sus...highly sus...
even if that was remotely true... how so?
these behavioral tendencies are just that, tendencies
they don't dictate how people behave, they are dictated by averages; they can't realistically be used to determine whether someone's gender is valid or not

Messaggio originale di Erin:
I don't think that's true, trans women are just disproportionately discussed in media
also, this
people often see trans women fighting because it's us that get the most negative coverage
I'm not talking about whether gender is valid or not, I think it's silly. I'm talking about real difference between men and women, and while they are tendencies they are tendencies rooted in biology and science.

And I think that trans-women who previously were biological men are going from a society that doesn't value them as men, to one that has an entire month dedicated towards kissing their butts and that creates social encouragements....hence why we see more trans-women rather then trans-men.

There's very little (if any) social advantage from going from a biological woman to that of a trans-man.
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Messaggio originale di Erin:
You may think that because the trans men you see pass. Or maybe you intentionally surround yourself with a lot of trans women.
Lol, but they don't really. Men tend to be more accepting as long as more drama isn't brought to the situation.
I'm not sure how that's relevant to what I said
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

You never see what?

If you think people are "choosing" anything, you clearly don't get what dysphoria is. And men aren't always confrontational, this is just another stupid stereotype like "men like sports".
Sure it's a choice. The vast majority of the people who experience gender dysphoria or gender confusion end up growing out of their phase.

Source:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rIHIwKB6eNc

No one chooses to have dysphoria, that's like saying people choose to have OCD. You clearly don't understand what you're talking about and that's fine, but if you don't want to understand things then discussion is pointless, you don't wanna learn anything, your mind is closed.
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Sure it's a choice. The vast majority of the people who experience gender dysphoria or gender confusion end up growing out of their phase.

Source:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rIHIwKB6eNc

No one chooses to have dysphoria, that's like saying people choose to have OCD. You clearly don't understand what you're talking about and that's fine, but if you don't want to understand things then discussion is pointless, you don't wanna learn anything, your mind is closed.
It's in the DSM -4.

But honestly given how much you folks deny reality, why do sources even matter?
Ultima modifica da Chunk Norris ☯; 1 nov 2023, ore 10:26
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

You never see what?

If you think people are "choosing" anything, you clearly don't get what dysphoria is. And men aren't always confrontational, this is just another stupid stereotype like "men like sports".
Sure it's a choice. The vast majority of the people who experience gender dysphoria or gender confusion end up growing out of their phase.
prove it

And remember there are also de-transitioners...people who picked the choice of trans, had various surgeries or hormonal therapy, regretted it and now are making the choice to identify back as their biological sex.
you mean like the ones whose experiences are used to push anti-trans rhetoric without their consent or approval?

And men on a whole tend to be confrontational, whereas women tend to be agreeable. It's one of the reasons why men and women tend to pick different jobs.

And it's not just a stupid stereotype it's science, feel free to deny it like you typically do. In fact if you look into studies about why men tend to have more in upper management or CEO type jobs it's because of their willingness to be disagreeable.

In America especially places like California, they're actually making laws that try to work around that gender difference and trying to force women to be in those CEO type jobs.

The law was overturned for being against Civil Rights, but California tried to mandate that half of all boards in major companies had to be women.

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/state-and-local-updates/pages/california-court-overturns-law-requiring-women-on-boards-of-directors.aspx
there are multiple factors that affect behavior and career choices, many of them social

still though... what's your goal with bringing up these overall trends in a discussion specifically about trans people?
are you perchance trying to set up the argument that it makes trans people less valid?

Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Messaggio originale di Not Big Surprise:
even if that was remotely true... how so?
these behavioral tendencies are just that, tendencies
they don't dictate how people behave, they are dictated by averages; they can't realistically be used to determine whether someone's gender is valid or not


also, this
people often see trans women fighting because it's us that get the most negative coverage
I'm not talking about whether gender is valid or not, I think it's silly. I'm talking about real difference between men and women, and while they are tendencies they are tendencies rooted in biology and science.

And I think that trans-women who previously were biological men are going from a society that doesn't value them as men, to one that has an entire month dedicated towards kissing their butts and that creates social encouragements....hence why we see more trans-women rather then trans-men.

There's very little (if any) social advantage from going from a biological woman to that of a trans-man.
oh yeah, like being consistently belittled and fetishized, being treated as freaks and groomers
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
Messaggio originale di Pierce Dalton:

Source:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rIHIwKB6eNc

No one chooses to have dysphoria, that's like saying people choose to have OCD. You clearly don't understand what you're talking about and that's fine, but if you don't want to understand things then discussion is pointless, you don't wanna learn anything, your mind is closed.
It's in the DSM -4.

But honestly given how much you folks deny reality, why do sources even matter?
the dsm-iv is outdated lmao
the dsm-v has different, arguably stricter criteria for gender dysphoria
Messaggio originale di Not Big Surprise:
Messaggio originale di Snow ☯:
It's in the DSM -4.

But honestly given how much you folks deny reality, why do sources even matter?
the dsm-iv is outdated lmao
the dsm-v has different, arguably stricter criteria for gender dysphoria
It's also viewed as highly political, DSM -4 is data from a less-biased time.

People aren't getting the help that they need because of political activists with an agenda.

Remember in progressive places like California they jail/fine/fire medical professions for not using someone's preferred pronouns.
Ultima modifica da Chunk Norris ☯; 1 nov 2023, ore 10:39
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