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WhiteKitt 26. okt. 2023 kl. 18:51
Should the homeless be given tiny houses ?
Hi,

that kinda sounds like a solution. Or if you use a white festival tent and attach it to a porta potty and some camping stuff it could give people some form of dignity

and if you put these tents on a nice field they can form a society and maybe cultivate veggies and potatoes or something idk

i think ppL just wanne keep discussing the issue instead of dishing out some stuff or just create some kind of homeless camp idk

just messed up that people in our "modern" society feel the need to defecate on the streets to make a point... i mean: really ?

I Hope to start a more mature discussion that actually make people see that this is not actually funny. People on the streets. Also for your lives! ( a crazy homeless person on crack could attack you randomly )

Maybe think about that before "jumping a homeless" for some tiktok S

This is f-ing bs bros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAlAflY0c6c&ab_channel=SP343
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Kobs 28. okt. 2023 kl. 4:43 
Being homeless means you can't possibly afford all the bills that comes with living somewhere. So if it wasn't so expensive to have a place, there would probably be less homeless peoples.

And now there's a shortage of places to live, there's always more and more peoples migrating where it's supposed to be better ... making it less and less better since you're invaded with peoples who come from places where it was normal to live with nothing.
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Darkwave Dahlia 28. okt. 2023 kl. 4:46 
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Stuff.

Is there a manifesto written by you that is readily available to read?
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tili1 28. okt. 2023 kl. 4:56 
There isn't a solution because the Left idealize the homeless. They are sacred to them or something weird. As such, the Left won’t allow a homeless camping area (will call a gueto) or any form financially viable collective habitation. You have to give then mansions or they will complain a lot.

Homeless people are homeless people because they dislike the notion of modern lives in society. They want freedom and can’t adapt to a strict word with rules. Many have some sort of mental issues. So, they usually don’t like the shelters because there are rules there.

I think a camping area would be great for everybody, you cant camp in public squares. They are public and do not belong to homeless. On the other hand, camping areas are somewhere the homeless can enjoy their life without rules.

I heard it was tried in NY, I don’t know what happened there.
xAlphaStarOmegax 28. okt. 2023 kl. 4:57 
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I mean they are probably homeless themselves because of too much pressure from working conditions at all, maybe they just wanna chill but it's impossible these days.

Well then nobody should be obligated to give them anything if they are unwilling to work for it. Sure, they can go chill, but, does that mean someone else should have to pay for them to have a roof to live under, or food to eat?
Well said.
GunsForBucks 28. okt. 2023 kl. 5:53 
Part of the problem in the USA is that bankers for years always push you to the maximum. Co opting the mentality.

The idea is that it is an "investment" so you are banking it goes up in value.

So there is little incentive on the part of home owners to want to suddenly flood the market with affordable housing.

Me? I got my house cash and only paying taxes instead of rent or mortgage makes life a lot cheaper to live. It isn't an investment to me since I intend to live here the rest of my life.
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apathy 28. okt. 2023 kl. 5:56 
We live in shambles where many buildings are left abandoned and decaying away, in the middle of a housing crisis, instead of homing people who have no permanent address.

Everyone deserves a roof over their head and an opportunity to better themselves.
GunsForBucks 28. okt. 2023 kl. 5:57 
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Well then nobody should be obligated to give them anything if they are unwilling to work for it. Sure, they can go chill, but, does that mean someone else should have to pay for them to have a roof to live under, or food to eat?
Well said.
Well when the single mother with 3 children becomes homeless due to an apartment fire you can just tell them to get a job eh?

Some people need a helping hand to get back on their feet.
Dom 28. okt. 2023 kl. 6:23 
Yes, housing is a recognized right in the UN declaration and it must be upheld. There's still a lot to do but countries across the world have signed this and are committed to the agenda.

Roof is not a privilege.

There are clear studies that providing housing is less costly than the problems that homelessness causes to the society. Particularly when it comes to crime, drugs and diseases. People who are worried about taxpayer money should support housing for all. It's cheaper.

Taking the most common example: US spends approximately $15 billion a year on homeless people. $50,000 per year per homeless. That's alone for the support services that don't provide a roof; when you combine crimes and other problems, this costs multiplies by a lot.

It costs $31,065 a year to criminalize a homeless - $10,051 per year to provide them housing.
Would you choose cruelty or the humanitarian approach, once the cost is considered?
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Candyy 28. okt. 2023 kl. 6:25 
Did not Finland or Norway do that alredy? 🤷‍♀️
Ulfrinn 28. okt. 2023 kl. 6:28 
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Well said.
Well when the single mother with 3 children becomes homeless due to an apartment fire you can just tell them to get a job eh?

Some people need a helping hand to get back on their feet.

Nonsensical hyperbole that has nothing to do with anything being said. You may want to pay attention to the conversation
Q-T_3.14.exe 28. okt. 2023 kl. 6:38 
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Did not Finland or Norway do that alredy? 🤷‍♀️
That might explain why I haven't seen any homeless people in my life. They all got homes. (o_o)
It gets could out there. I can confirm. I was outside today. It was cold.
Candyy 28. okt. 2023 kl. 6:41 
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Did not Finland or Norway do that alredy? 🤷‍♀️
That might explain why I haven't seen any homeless people in my life. They all got homes. (o_o)
It gets could out there. I can confirm. I was outside today. It was cold.

Me when 17 degrees outside: 🥶🥶

The idea is that goverment gives them houses for free, and then when they get a job they start paying it or at least that is what I understood 🤷‍♀️
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Q-T_3.14.exe 28. okt. 2023 kl. 6:46 
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That might explain why I haven't seen any homeless people in my life. They all got homes. (o_o)
It gets could out there. I can confirm. I was outside today. It was cold.

Me when 17 degrees outside: 🥶🥶

The idea is that goverment gives them houses for free, and then when they get a job they start paying it or at least that is what I understood 🤷‍♀️
Living off my tax money if I had to guess? Good. That is good news. Putting that money into good use like it should be.
Pieshaman 28. okt. 2023 kl. 7:00 
as long my ultrawide fits I would take a tiny house
tiny house = tiny time to clean all:steamthumbsup:
Entity 28. okt. 2023 kl. 7:04 
Like a shipping container?
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