Concern about gender segregation of public toilets is nonsense.

[Shodan 2.0]

Ah yes, the famous public toilet crime that we see on the news every day, the scary rapists who totally would have raped someone if it wasn't for some stupid symbols on doors and of course, people who totally use public toilets for parades and conspiracies instead of entering, doing their business and exiting.

Then, there's the absolutely genius argument of "privacy" in something literally called a "public toilet" which just makes so much sense. Not to mention that separate stalls with doors that can be locked somehow aren't enough, apparently. Do you arrange secret meetings and discuss world domination in those public toilets if you need that much privacy? I know this sounds crazy, but you're a human being like everyone else and the world actually doesn't revolve around you, so just mind your own business and do your thing.

As for gender segregation itself, it hasn't always been that way and don't forget that there also used to be racial segregation for public toilets. As you can imagine, people had similar nonsensical arguments in favor of racial segregation too, but not having that anymore is obviously not a problem after all. Also, not having segregated public toilets is much more efficient in terms of cost, space, construction, maintenance, queues and security. By the way, have you ever noticed that handicapped toilets have never been segregated? That's just one example of this already being a thing, as it was before segregation was even introduced and that wasn't too long ago.

Anyway, any kind of personal, political and religious complaints about this "issue" are obviously not valid concerns because that has nothing to do with facts and statistics.

[Pierce Dalton]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Not Big Surprise:

in part that would be cool, but i don't know how someone could even carry something that big and heavy or where they'd carry it

Holographic storage and data/matter transparency technology.

Or a bucket, a hand cart, and a folding screen you carry around with you as luggage.

You're playing too much Cyberpunk.

[Ganger]

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Gender neutral bathrooms are fine in cafes and bars but in the public space, you will have perverts preying on the vulnerable... public toilets in town centres that I know off in the UK aren't safe paces to go into if your a lone woman or child. Just my own opinion.

i'm guessing you have data to back up this opinion, right?

From where I lived, to much nonsense happens in male public toilets from lure acts to full on sexual encounters that's why most have been shut down now. Many cases of perverts doing perverted acts in restrooms. Sadly, in my area where I live we have many many male registered sex offenders.

[Birds]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ganger:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Birds:

I'm advocating for gender-neutral bathrooms, which many will construe as the same thing just like they construe trans as the same thing.

Gender neutral bathrooms are fine in cafes and bars but in the public space, you will have perverts preying on the vulnerable... public toilets in town centres that I know off in the UK aren't safe paces to go into if your a lone woman or child. Just my own opinion.

Sounds like an argument against public restrooms in general. Something many cities are adopting.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Birds:

Holographic storage and data/matter transparency technology.

Or a bucket, a hand cart, and a folding screen you carry around with you as luggage.

You're playing too much Cyberpunk.

It's more common in Nier.

The technology is much, much closer at hand than anything Cyberpunk shows.

[Not Big Surprise]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ganger:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Not Big Surprise:

i'm guessing you have data to back up this opinion, right?

From where I lived, to much nonsense happens in male public toilets from lure acts to full on sexual encounters that's why most have been shut down now. Many cases of perverts doing perverted acts in restrooms. Sadly, in my area where I live we have many many male registered sex offenders.

...men's restrooms getting shut down?

[Ganger]

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I don't k now what I would do if my own daughter is using the public restroom and some guy walks in claiming to be a woman... not happen to me yet and I hope it never will.

Since he will be dressed as a woman, that may have already happened and you never knew.

This is another issue, these days its bloody hard knowing who is who. Anyway fella's I need to head back to work. I be back on laterz.

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ganger:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Not Big Surprise:

i'm guessing you have data to back up this opinion, right?

From where I lived, to much nonsense happens in male public toilets from lure acts to full on sexual encounters that's why most have been shut down now. Many cases of perverts doing perverted acts in restrooms. Sadly, in my area where I live we have many many male registered sex offenders.

You live in Council Housing?

[GunsForBucks]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Cat Staccs:

ever heard of causality?

yeah, i have

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People should just have their portable toilet stall they can deploy and use as necessary tbh. Infrastructure-wide investment causes a lot of issues.

in part that would be cool, but i don't know how someone could even carry something that big and heavy or where they'd carry it

Google
folding camping toilets

[Birds]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Out Of Bubblegum:

Since he will be dressed as a woman, that may have already happened and you never knew.

This is another issue, these days its bloody hard knowing who is who. Anyway fella's I need to head back to work. I be back on laterz.

Most of the issues that are causing cities to shut down public restrooms can be solved with some form of front end identification. Like you have to get a mouth swab to verify your genetics are on file with the city, then the door opens.

Should make it easier to identify any number of wrongdoers, from people disobeying the gender laws to simple homeless who are supposed to die not poop.

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

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Have you considered that feminism is a competition-focused system by rhetoric and does very little to address the underlying causes of women's marginalization?

It's a valid target for any right-thinking megalomaniac who wants to champion women's issues.

what

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i really don't care how many women are supportive of this, lmao & nothing changed probably because deranged men will always find ways to bother women and destroy their lives?

correct
it's almost like letting trans women into women's bathrooms won't change how much cis men harass women

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ShadowShifterMarlith:

People are putting way too much thought into this:


The only reason why all Bathrooms are not Neutral in the first place,
is to keep men from Spying on Women in the Bathrooms, it's about
Privacy, & it's always been about Privacy...

None of it ever had to do with which Gender you were...

It's to keep Men from causing trouble for Women...

That is the only reason...

The reason only 1 Bathroom exists in a Small Shop being Neutral
is because the Shop is too small to separate Bathrooms, & People
can't afford to hold all these so called Bathroom Choices your all
asking for... They can't afford all these Changes you want...




What your asking, is to change bathrooms based on Gender only,
& that was never the reason why there are only 2 Bathrooms at all,
it was never based on a want or a need, or a feeling, or whatever
you call it Today... It was always based on the idea that some People
just didn't want other People causing trouble for them...

That is why, & it's stupid to change it...

Even now Today, there are People trying to portray that
they are Transgender, just to get into the Oposite Bathroom
so they can cause trouble for the Oposite Gender, & that
shouldn't be allowed, but the whole ideology surrounding
Transgender use in Public Bathrooms permits them to do so...

& it's already causing trouble where there never needed
to be trouble before, & the whole Concept is just stupid...



If it was me, & I wasn't comfortable using the restroom at
the Public Place, all cause I had to share it with People
who want to use them...

If it was me? I'd go out back, & go on the building it's self,
or I wouldn't go at all, & just wait till I got home, & hope
I could make it home...

I would rather leave over a Bathroom issue, just get up,
& walk out, then to have to share a Bathroom with someone
I wasn't comfortable staring at me, while I go...


Public Bathrooms were never about Phobias,
they were always about handling Negative Stress & Being Under Pressure...

if that's the case, then if a country implemented self-id laws, it would be logical to see an increase in sexual harassment in women's bathrooms there, right?

Your Question to me, was already answered by you in your above Quote...

Your Question to me was:

It would be logical to see an increase in sexual harassment in womens bathrooms there, right?


Your above Quote to someone else was:

correct
it's almost like letting trans women into women's bathrooms won't change how much cis men harass women



So you already answered your own Question, oO

And I would Agree with you... Yes...

[Pierce Dalton]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Cat Staccs:

trans people have proven they don't fully experience being a woman since they're fine with having men enter the public womens bathroom,

Why do you keep forgetting that many ciswomen are fine with that too?

[Not Big Surprise]

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trans people have proven they don't fully experience being a woman since they're fine with having men enter the public womens bathroom,

what

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Not Big Surprise:

what


correct
it's almost like letting trans women into women's bathrooms won't change how much cis men harass women


if that's the case, then if a country implemented self-id laws, it would be logical to see an increase in sexual harassment in women's bathrooms there, right?

Your Question to me, was already answered by you in your above Quote...

Your Question to me was:

It would be logical to see an increase in sexual harassment in womens bathrooms there, right?


Your above Quote to someone else was:

correct
it's almost like letting trans women into women's bathrooms won't change how much cis men harass women



So you already answered your own Question, oO

cool

do you agree or disagree?

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Cat Staccs:

trans people have proven they don't fully experience being a woman since they're fine with having men enter the public womens bathroom,

Agreed with you on this...


@Not Big Surprise

Srry, I changed, & Edited my Post, do you see my Answer at the Bottom?

[Pierce Dalton]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Cat Staccs:

you can hide behind all the data & sources you want, it doesn't change the fact no one wants to see a 190cm man in the public womens bathroom

So you speak for everyone?

[Not Big Surprise]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Cat Staccs:

you can hide behind all the data & sources you want, it doesn't change the fact no one wants to see a 190cm man in the public womens bathroom

interesting how you went from "it's gonna cause sexual assault" to "i don't care about statistics i only care about the genitals of strangers inside cubicles made specifically for privacy"

[Not Big Surprise]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ShadowShifterMarlith:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Cat Staccs:

trans people have proven they don't fully experience being a woman since they're fine with having men enter the public womens bathroom,

Agreed with you on this...


@Not Big Surprise

Srry, I changed, & Edited my Post, do you see my Answer at the Bottom?

oh okay good

see that's the thing, many countries have implemented such measures
have any of them experienced such issues?