Should India Be a Permanent Member of The UN Security Council?

[RealEgg]

They are a neutral country and becoming more powerful and impactful in the world.

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Choccy の投稿を引用：

☺ TLM ☺- NuºSºTºEºAºMº UI SUCKS の投稿を引用：

I see you approve Terrorism as a method of justice.
See that is why India is not a good country.
Because of people like you rectifying terrorism.

How do you propose to deal with terrorism my good sir? Ask them nicely to stop killing people? Politely request them to hand over themself to the law?

Oh Mr. Terrorist, some guy on Steam is sad because we killed one of you guys, can you please just stop killing people so we can sit around a campfire and share our feelings?

Definitely not by sending Assassins into other countries and kill their citizens.
I thought India was a state based on rule of law, but seems I was absolutely wrong, this taught me the actual Indian government clearly. Decisions are based on capriciousness instead.
Calling India a Democracy is nothing but a catchphrase and a facade. It is no different from Pakistan and China.
If you want to judge a Terrorist, bring him to trial.

Edit :
I take that back, India is worse than Pakistan and China, because they did not yet do this kind of assassination on other Nations sovereign ground. It is more like Saudi Arabia, they have done that with Kashoggi, and they treat women equally bad as Indians do.

[Professor]

Uncle Sam の投稿を引用：

Professor の投稿を引用：

The 5 permanent members where born after WW2 & if India has aspirations to grow the Security Council's permanent members then other countries could have similar claims.

Agreed, for example the countries in African Union and ASEAN and AOSIS and MercoSur or for a more precise sample the G77, there's many countries that should have permanent seat in the UNSC.

Well said & yes perhaps if they are going to grow the permanent member base then it has to be more than just 1 & perhaps should have no less than 10 permanent members.

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Choccy の投稿を引用：

☺ TLM ☺- NuºSºTºEºAºMº UI SUCKS の投稿を引用：

Definitely not by sending Assassins into other countries and kill their citizens.
I thought India was a state based on rule of law, but seems I was absolutely wrong, this taught me the actual Indian government clearly. Decisions are based on capriciousness instead.
Calling India a Democracy is nothing but a catchphrase and a facade. It is no different from Pakistan and China.
If you want to judge a Terrorist, bring him to trial.

I bet you would be a zombie rights activist during a zombie apocalypse.

I'll put it in capital so you can read it clearly THERE IS NO PROOF INDIA CARRIED OUT THE ASSASINATION.

Even if they did, Iam happy because Canada clearly has a neutered government. India has again and again sent Canada the list of wanted Khalistani terrorists so that they can be put on trial, but Trudeau is more concerned for votes than actually harbouring terrorists in his country.

Indian democracy a catchphrase and facade? What would that make the rest of the western world? How many people has CIA and MOSSAD assassinated? I dont see you crying your eyes out when that happens? Or is it that only they are allowed to look after their country's interests? Before you cry about whataboutism and pointing fingers, Iam just pointing out your hypocrisy.

You have clearly made up on mind and no one could change that. You seem to think you live in a world where terrorists can be dealt by sending a court summon.

I'll just say this and sign off. There is no proof India carry out this assasination. But if it turns out they did, I hope they do it more because you guys are too blind cockroaches in your own house.

You don't see me "cry" about others because this topic is about India. But I mentioned Trumps terrorist attack just to anticipate your behaviour, because it was obvious that for you the indian state does have any right to send assassins into any country on the world, and you are proud of it as you clearly demonstrate here.

But ofc, other countries do not have any right to send assassins into India to kill what they think of being Terrorists inside India, like your Prime Minister for example, and probably I should consider you as a terrorist too, or at least as a sympathisant of terrorism, as you state yourself.

Anything else to add ? Oh yes, India is a poor and dirty country, and it is based on a stoneage like society structure unable to reform itself, and political decisions are now only made based on belief, not on rationality. I do not see how this country will ever have a great future.
Especially if the inhabitants like you undermine the last remaining strongpoints of the country with their support for terrorist actions and ignorance towards other countries sovereignity.
It does not even ring a bell with you, that sovereignity is the most important thing that Indians regularly claim to want to protect for themselves, but taking it from others is not part of their recognised perception.

As you can see from my profile I am Russian, brother, I know how it feels to be caught inside an echo chamber and being unable to accept reality - it happens around me every day - maybe you as an Indian should consider to watch less of our propaganda, it is not healthy for you. I am Russian soldier stationed in Ukraine, but I never shoot at them, I am not an ordinary soldier, I tell the Ukrainians by phone where to shoot the artillery, and I make deals on how to surrender my people that are not completely out of their mind, so that they can live and not die for nothing, since this war is meaningless for Russia.You should consider to rethink your perspective on India and the world in general. My family is half Russian half Ukrainian. I also have german ancestors. How do you think I would find myself in this conflict ? The answer was simple, it is RATIONALITY, and you should find a way to access RATIONALITY inside yourself.

[Professor]

Canada is one of the 5 eyes & as such shares privileged information with the other 4 eyes, if Canada claims to have evidence then it must be taken seriously. I am sure the 5 eye nations have shared & analysed information thoroughly, enabling Trudeau to announce that he has evidence.

For those that dont know what the 5 eyes are, here is a description. They are an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. At its core, the Five Eyes alliance exists to pool resources and share intelligence among its member nations. They are also referred to as Echelon

What the world deserves now is for Canada & the 5 eyes to share their findings with the rest of the world. In the end the truth must come out in order for allegations to be properly proven or disproven.

[Haiku's Knife]

India is unironically destroying the planet.

[Spencer]

There is no reason for the UK to have a permanent seat, its a nothing country at this point. The price of Churchill selling out their empire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxActB2o-Tw


Japan having no independence also should not be anywhere near the council.

[Moogal™]

3Kast3ly3 の投稿を引用：

India is unironically destroying the planet.

How?

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Insomniac Jack の投稿を引用：

The UN is useless.

Thankfully. We don't need a world government.

[Lora Grim]

Don't know enough about India's government to have an opinion on this.
If they are democratic and have the intention to keep their nation democratic, then they should have access to services afforded to other nations dedicated to democracy and defending democracy.

If not, then no.

[Mauserich]

The UN Security Council should consist of the 11 largest economies. This will ensure a more adequate participation of most continents. 11 to exclude voting equality. Maybe the 13 larges economies are also an option.

1 USA 24,181.1
2 China 17,059.0
3 Japan 4,018.2
4 Germany 3,867.2
5 India 3,214.7
6 United Kingdom 2,916.1
7 France 2,642.8
8 Russia 2,127.7
9 Canada 2,032.1
10 Italy 1,909.2
11 Brazil 1,823.5

In addition, the UN carta needs a compleat revision of the current statute to complete the post-war aera. Germany, Italy and Japan are still subject to the Enemy State Clause in the Statute, which has long been obsolete.

So, no India alone in the security councel would not be a sufficient adaptation of the UN to current developments since its inception.

[Pieshaman]

who gives a ♥♥♥♥ about this council, where russia veto's everything for over 5 decades.
it one of the reasons the netherlands not want on the council.

[Professor]

Mauserich の投稿を引用：

The UN Security Council should consist of the 11 largest economies. This will ensure a more adequate participation of most continents. 11 to exclude voting equality. Maybe the 13 larges economies are also an option.

1 USA 24,181.1
2 China 17,059.0
3 Japan 4,018.2
4 Germany 3,867.2
5 India 3,214.7
6 United Kingdom 2,916.1
7 France 2,642.8
8 Russia 2,127.7
9 Canada 2,032.1
10 Italy 1,909.2
11 Brazil 1,823.5

In addition, the UN carta needs a compleat revision of the current statute to complete the post-war aera. Germany, Italy and Japan are still subject to the Enemy State Clause in the Statute, which has long been obsolete.

So, no India alone in the the security councel would not be a sufficient adaptation of the UN to current developments since its inception.

I like the idea of expanding the permanent members, but I think it has to also totally abolish the power of veto.

[Professor]

Pieshaman の投稿を引用：

who gives a ♥♥♥♥ about this council, where russia veto's everything for over 5 decades.
it one of the reasons the netherlands not want on the council.

All of the 5 permanent members have used their power of veto in one way or another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vetoed_United_Nations_Security_Council_resolutions

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Kamiyama の投稿を引用：

☺ TLM ☺- NuºSºTºEºAºMº UI SUCKS の投稿を引用：

No, India should be separated into many tiny states, like Ruzzian federation.
Many many many tiny states. Many.

That's what should happen to the USA.

Why is a government over 30 trillion dollars in debt using taxpayer money to wage wars? There is no good reason for it to exist. The federal government should be dismantled and thrown out like the hot garbage it is.

Why do conceited, self-important idiots who can't manage their own money (let alone anyone else's) presume to give me a credit score?

Why did Zelensky just meet with a bunch of bankers instead of our politicians in DC? Do bankers have more power than our politicians in Washington DC?

Why has the SEC collected over 2 billion dollars investigating Whatsapp messages for insider trading? Hedge funds like Citadel Securities and banks like JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs have been found guilty of crimes hundreds of times but they only ever pay tiny fines worth a fraction of the profit they earned from their crimes. I've been watching the market and the SEC for years and I've never seen them remove market privileges from a single bank or hedge fund. Criminals literally run Wall Street. Wall Street runs Washington DC.

This clown show has grown old and the clowns need to be shown the door.

zelensky is us' equivalent of the people, and oligarchs are us' equivalent of the federal government.

you are welcome.

i 100% agree with you about the clowns.

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Moogal™ の投稿を引用：

3Kast3ly3 の投稿を引用：

India is unironically destroying the planet.

How?

It's one of the most polluted and polluting nations in the world and is severely overpopulated. Their air pollution is so bad that around 1 million people there die every year just from breathing where they live. Their overpopulation ensures a massive cycle of poverty, consumption and emigration, not only affecting them, but exporting their problems to other countries and worsening overpopulation everywhere else they go. They're killing the environment and destructively flooding the planet with excessive amounts of human beings.