can homelessness be solved?

[Rhila]

there is 2 parts to fix this problem,

the first part is to prevent the future homeless people to become homeless in first place.
how?
end drugs completely, be ruthless against gangs and drugs traffickers and dealers.
and make alcohol the most expensive thing ever, no one can buy them.

the second part is what to do with the current homeless people?
build one city for them, and offer them work in factories.
the ones who do good will get more money than the rest, and with the money they have they can leave this city if they want.

if there are any better solutions please post them here, thanks.

[Azza ☠]

Elon Musk instead of buying Twitter or trying to destroy Earth by shooting rockets at the ozone layer regularly... spent that money on saving the homeless? They could all sleep in the company buildings from which he refuses to pay rent for. Problem solved.

[Rhila]

引用自 Azza ☠：

Elon Musk instead of buying Twitter or trying to destroy Earth by shooting rockets at the ozone layer regularly... spent that money on saving the homeless? They could all sleep in the company buildings from which he refuses to pay rent for. Problem solved.

money will not solve it, homeless people will buy drugs and alcohol with all the money they get.

[Azza ☠]

引用自 Rhila：

引用自 Azza ☠：

Elon Musk instead of buying Twitter or trying to destroy Earth by shooting rockets at the ozone layer regularly... spent that money on saving the homeless? They could all sleep in the company buildings from which he refuses to pay rent for. Problem solved.

money will not solve it, homeless people will buy drugs and alcohol with all the money they get.

Rather than giving homeless people money, you would give them boxes of alcohol to ensure they don't waste it on food or clothing, etc.

ps: Elon Musk actually claimed he wanted to turn the Twitter's San Francisco HQ into a homeless shelter and that he himself sleeps on a seventh floor couch. I just thought that was amusing. He clearly knows how to live like the homeless or at least a 17 year old teenager barely surviving on the street but able to sleep at random friend's places around the town. Elon Musk doesn't own a home and even has been sleeping on friends' spare beds.

[kilésengati]

Huh, interesting. Was listening to this banger and thinking about how sad it really is.

https://youtu.be/tN6FIac7Wwc

I don't think "singing" for money is the solution to homelessness though.

[ุ]

引用自 Rhila：

引用自 Azza ☠：

Elon Musk instead of buying Twitter or trying to destroy Earth by shooting rockets at the ozone layer regularly... spent that money on saving the homeless? They could all sleep in the company buildings from which he refuses to pay rent for. Problem solved.

money will not solve it, homeless people will buy drugs and alcohol with all the money they get.

A huge portion of homeless are addicts due to self medicating for mental illness, depression, etc. If we invest resources in programs to combat pay inequality, mental illness, and addiction, you'd see a decline in homelessness.

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引用自 Rhila：

end drugs completely, be ruthless against gangs and drugs traffickers and dealers.
and make alcohol the most expensive thing ever, no one can buy them.

In theory no drugs or alcohol would go a long way in solving the problem. In reality it has been proven again and again that prohibition doesn't work. All it does is move production of the banned substance underground and the profits into the hands of criminal gangs which leads to more serious problems.

引用自 Rhila：

the second part is what to do with the current homeless people?
build one city for them, and offer them work in factories.
the ones who do good will get more money than the rest, and with the money they have they can leave this city if they want.

This would most likely be impractical and moving all homeless people (many of whom suffer from mental health issues, substance abuse, etc.) would be a recipe for disaster.


It is unlikely that it could ever be solved completely, but increasing shelter space and reducing the bureaucratic barriers in the way of building more housing would go a long way in helping the situation.

[Rhila]

引用自 Azza ☠：

引用自 Rhila：

money will not solve it, homeless people will buy drugs and alcohol with all the money they get.

Rather than giving homeless people money, you would give them boxes of alcohol to ensure they don't waste it on food or clothing, etc.

ps: Elon Musk actually claimed he wanted to turn the Twitter's San Francisco HQ into a homeless shelter and that he himself sleeps on a seventh floor couch. I just thought that was amusing. He clearly knows how to live like the homeless or at least a 17 year old teenager barely surviving on the street but able to sleep at random friend's places around the town.

are you telling us Musk is the savior of the universe but forget to do his plan?

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Homeless? If there were a single homeless person here I would personally build them their very own shack. What do you mean living a shack is like being homeless? Nonsense! Shacks are tomorrow's mansions, as long as we faithfully follow El Presidente. Viva El Presidente! Viva Tropico!

[Xero_Daxter]

Some people don't want to be helped. I said some.... not all. We should give them a test or something to see if they really wanna seek help. Like... as long they have a job they can stay in a shelter and sleep there.

Edit: And they have to take a random drug test. You know... to see if they don't do drugs and whatnot.

[Azza ☠]

引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：

引用自 Rhila：

money will not solve it, homeless people will buy drugs and alcohol with all the money they get.

A huge portion of homeless are addicts due to self medicating for mental illness, depression, etc. If we invest resources in programs to combat pay inequality, mental illness, and addiction, you'd see a decline in homelessness.

Couldn't you just setup a 'work' for 'shelter', 'clothing' or 'food' system?

Hey, homeless person do X job for me and you can get a room rent for the night.

All you really need to do is remove the concept of money in between the process. If they enjoy living it rough, freezing and almost staving, so be it. Yet you will find some will be really keep for a job to work. I bet you they would be a better worker too.

Now what they need is work experience to climb up and progress over time into more skilled jobs, if they desire that too.

[Sidakte]

well, jobs would be the first thing required tbh imho.
other than that, some shelter so they could perhaps accumulate some money then move on to their own house? i dunno i just get some ideas and sharing them.

a sense of community would be required i think. but work would be #1 if you ask me.

[ZZZZZ]

arrest them all.. thats the only solution that would actually work, everything else is a "I give u" which doesnt work on people who refuse to recieve.. doesnt mean I think my solution is a good one, its just one that would work better than any other

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引用自 Sidakte：

well, jobs would be the first thing required tbh imho.
other than that, some shelter so they could perhaps accumulate some money then move on to their own house? i dunno i just get some ideas and sharing them.

a sense of community would be required i think. but work would be #1 if you ask me.

There is certainly no shortage of jobs at the moment at least where I live. It's decent jobs that are in short supply. If most jobs don't pay enough to afford a place to live that's a problem.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

you have to fix the drug, mental problems of the guessing here 80%
the other 20% just had bad luck and would work if given chance i bet

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引用自 Azza ☠：

引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：

A huge portion of homeless are addicts due to self medicating for mental illness, depression, etc. If we invest resources in programs to combat pay inequality, mental illness, and addiction, you'd see a decline in homelessness.

Couldn't you just setup a 'work' for 'shelter', 'clothing' or 'food' system?

Hey, homeless person do X job for me and you can get a room rent for the night.

All you really need to do is remove the concept of money in between the process. If they enjoy living it rough, freezing and almost staving, so be it. Yet you will find some will be really keep for a job to work. I bet you they would be a better worker too.

Now what they need is work experience to climb up and progress over time into more skilled jobs, if they desire that too.

Problem is, at least here in the US, jobs aren't paying living wages. However, adding necessities, food, and shelter to pay could be beneficial. After all that's what apprenticeship used to be.

But there's people working 60-80 hours a week, and unable to afford rent. Now, a lot of people will be like "well yeah, those are entry level jobs" entry level nothing, people should be paid their worth.

A huge part of the pay inequality in the US is that, well, higher education is gated behind a lifetime of debt too. So how are these people, who can't make rent, working 80 hours a week, supposed to also afford higher education?

The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality has been a detriment leftover from the children of the Silent Generation, the Boomers, if you will.

We had such large economic booms post-war due to, well, basically selling our country off like mercenaries, that an entire generation or two moved on from living with their parents well into their 20's until marriage. To buying a house, a car, and affording college with a part-time job.

However instead of keeping those options available to future generations, it basically all got gated behind the paywall of higher education and "connections".