would you rather only watch old cartoons or modern?

[Kyle Nuva]

im still looking for a cartoon two and its very hard, almost as its lost to time
one had a small dude, small as mario and he could transform into any animal
another was some space show, i only seen it once on vacation, weird how that happens, think it had a number in it, it had well pretty generic military suited guys and well they would go on missions. so far no luck

i looked and looked and watch some videos and wow, just wow, cartoons were awesome some good

would you rather super old cartoons knowing it had cheesy music, bad picture, audio, poor and cringe animation, dry plot, terrible logic and writing. some were decent but alot were bad

or watch modern garbage like ttg, fosters, uncle grandpa, spongebob, regular show, loud house, steven universe and more?

[St✩rlight]

Modern ones are better

[talemore]

None

[Sixtyfivekills]

Only modern cartoon I watched that I genuinely enjoyed was Kaeloo, because its sense of humour and voice acting was just too mental and I loved every second of it. Shame Serbians only dubbed one season.


But yeah, I'd stick with the classics like Tom and Jerry.

[Marcy]

Because I dislike you, I'm counting old cartoons from 1930s to 1980 as old and anything newer as new

So new

Simpsons, Futurama, Ren and Stimpy, Jimmy Neutron, The Owl House, Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Amphibia, Teen Titans (original), Batman The Animated Series, Justice League

[Piston Smashed™]

I prefer old cartoons what i grew up with, although some newer ones like Simpsons, Futurama and South Park are good as well.

Some of my favourites
Hong Kong Phooey
Top Cat
Dungeons & Dragons
Ulysses 31
Hair Bear Bunch
Inch High Private Eye
Wacky Races
Tom & Jerry
Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels
Spider-Man (1967)
Scooby Doo, Where Are You!
Flintstones
Atom Ant
Yogi Bear
Dastardly and Muttley in Their Flying Machines
The Road Runner Show
Woody Woodpecker
Bugs Bunny
Thundercats
Secret Squirrel
Josie and the ♥♥♥♥♥ Cats
Sport Billy
Fang Face
The Perils of Penelope Pitstop

[Mathius]

引用自 Sir Seanicus, Esq.：

Old. Modern CalArts killed cartoons.

Actually, it started way before that with the Batman animated series era of cartoons. In the 80's it was normal to try and make human characters look anatomically correct for the most part.

Batman animated had a hard and fast rule for animation. By eliminating the need for "realistic" actors, they could use less lines, and the images were easier to draw, which made them more efficient money-wise.

That's what started it.

Of course this is a major factor, but not the only one. In the 80's they started outsourcing, which caused a ton of issues.

Transformers was notorious for outsourcing their work and getting subpar animation, where characters were drawn more than once in a scene, color schemes were wrong, etc.

They actually made so many errors that some of these "error" characters were adopted later as new characters.

It always makes me somewhat mad when people call 80's cartoons "20 minute commercials aimed at children."

This might have been the corporate thought at the time, but the people that worked on these shows really cared. Most of the current Transformers characters were based on show bios written in the 80's.

Having 130 He-Man episodes, 98 Transformers episodes, and 95 GI Joe episodes allowed them to really play around with characters, in a lot of cases giving whole episodes developed to one character, which made for better writing.

In fact, studios learned this lesson in the 80's with the death of Optimus Prime.

They thought they could put out the 1987 Transformers animated movie and literally kill off all the characters to make room for their new line of characters.

Children literally cried when they saw their hero, Optimus Prime, "die" in theatres. Parents complained. They wrote the company. People were invested in these characters. That's good writing.

The backlash was so severe, that Hasbro had the GI Joe movie coming out and they were going to kill of Duke for the same reasons. They had to go back and edit the film before they could release it to simply put Duke in a coma and announce he was ok at the end of the movie.

Cartoons were absolutely better in the early 80's, despite some of the complaints.

And every one of those franchises I mentioned: GI Joe, He-Man, Transformers, even Thundercats have been recycling those original characters over and over again and trying reboots over and over again because people loved those characters and stories and every single attempt to reboot them either failed, or ended up using the same character/design elements from the 80's.

[BlackBloodGhost]

Neither, I'm too old for cartoons :-P

[kilésengati]

Old Simpsons has good political humour, but you have to know a thing or two about history to understand it.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

引用自 kilésengati：

Old Simpsons has good political humour, but you have to know a thing or two about history to understand it.

This remind me that the first episode I ever seen of the Simpson's is when homer become a baseball mascot ... that feel like an eternity ago.

It's in the very early seasons of the show.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

I watch both old and modern.

[Mathius]

引用自 Q-T_3.14.exe：

I watch both old and modern.

I mean, to be fair, good writing is good writing.

I took OP to be meaning cartoons aimed at children, so I believe the older cartoons in that context are superior, but I enjoyed Gravity Falls, and there are quite a few movies that have been ok.

If I believed he was talking about more mature level of cartoons, i.e. those aimed at an adult audience, it would give me pause. I think early Family Guy, early Simpsons was superior, but there are some modern shows like Rick and Morty, or Solar Opposites that were enjoyable.

But R&M has been mediocre, if not terrible, since like season 3 ended or something.

Archer just rehashes the same jokes over and over again.

It seems like when it comes to adult cartoons, the longer they run, the less good they are.

[Bad Aim]

I don't really watch cartoons... You know, being an adult and all.

[Mathius]

引用自 Cernunnos：

I don't really watch cartoons... You know, being an adult and all.

Yes, because being an adult means you're constantly concerned about whether or not things are mature enough for you to enjoy.

[McFlurry Butts]

There are a lot of good shows today. When I was growing up early 2000s, I got to watch good cartoons from the last 50 to 60 years. It's a bit biased to say that they were better since they had a considerable span of time being created and clearly the best of the best was being played by then. I think the problem people have now is simply finding time to do anything, especially if you factor in the mass depression.

[Psycho]

Old ones definitely. I was born in late 90s (so was pretty much a 2000s kid), so I grew up with some fantastic cartoons