Linux vs Windows

[Lemale]

What is the True Gamer Os?
If you would use a Steam Deck would you still install Midsofts Os?
Let me know in the Comments below

[Ulfrinn]

Originalmente postado por kilésengati:

Originalmente postado por Ulfrinn:

The reason is, Manjaro tries hard to market itself as being easier, when the truth is it's actually not. But in that effort to market itself as easier, they do a different package repository which may use different packages and versions, which breaks compatibility with a lot of Arch based software and binaries. Then when that stuff breaks, users look for solutions online, and will almost always find solutions for Arch, but those solutions won't work.

The best part about Arch is it has one of the, if not now the largest user community putting up fixes and tweaks online for people in need of help to look up, find, and be able to fix things themselves.

Most the "ease of use" stuff people associate with "easy" distros as well are actually part of the desktop environments, not the distro. So if someone installs Archlinux, using the archinstall script (which is a guided install process like any other distro uses), and in that process they select an easy desktop from the list of choices, such as KDE, then they'll be better equipped than with Manjaro.

Endeavor is also fully compatible with Archlinux, but comes with a graphical installer. There's no difference between that graphical installer, or the one you'd use on Manjaro, Opensuse, etc. And the only difference between an Arch install using the archinstall script, and those other installers is archinstall will run you through a list of the same options, but using text prompts.

Used the Arch wiki many times to fix issues with Debian/Ubuntu-based systems. Once you understand the differences, it translates surprisingly well. It's Linux after all.
And once you acknowledge that Manjaro does things differently from vanilla Arch, like being heavily authored by the devs, it's actually not that big of a deal.
There's nothing wrong with vanilla Arch and nothing wrong with Manjaro. They do things differently. Simple as.

Maybe it's best to view Manjaro decoupled from Arch. Like some already do view Ubuntu decoupled from Debian, despite being a downstream project, but because it does some things radically different.

Once you understand the differences, then there's no need to hamstring yourself with Manjaro anyway.

[Ulfrinn]

Originalmente postado por Plaid:

Originalmente postado por ♄:

I have to admit I have have never had an issue with Windows since 7, Win 7 had 1 update that broke stuff.

Oh, that DirectX update that was required for IE11, but broke a ton of games?
Thank goodness we could roll that back!

Windows is not focused on gaming. It would be a vastly different OS if it were.

That's a big part of how Windows keeps people upgrading and buying new software. Want to play the latest Windows games? You need the latest DirectX. But then they tie that to OS releases, like forcing people to get 10 for DX12. As well as ending support for them to force people to go to newer ones which may not be better.

At least with Linux, I don't have to deal with any of that crap.

[sleeps]

looks like you guys have fun chatting when i was sleeping.

last time i use linux (i use a laptop with windows. it's for school project. can't go back to my main pc because this laptop rocks hard while can't install linux because my brother won't let me to), it's so great. my personal linux of choice is eos (endeavouros). because it's so damn good. the update is easier, everything is snappy. it's good

as of gaming, it's good by far. although my hardware is not strong which i can't blame linux itself. however, i try to play csgo and i just can't for some reason.

what about the bad? some of a very good/essential software like office 365 either don't work or need a lot of tinkering. sure, it may be microsoft but it's that good

[I^IUHhHHhhHhHhHH² ^B]

For a steam deck? I think windows would be too heavy

For a normal desktop/laptop

Idk I’m waiting to see how windows 12 turns out

[Barney, from Black Mesa.]

Linux; this isn't early 2010 anymore, and much has evolved. Windows is full of bloatware services and programs that's nonoptimal for a superior gaming experience.

[Pom Pom]

true gamer os is windows
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3040336094

[BlackBloodGhost]

Originalmente postado por Ulfrinn:

Originalmente postado por kilésengati:

Used the Arch wiki many times to fix issues with Debian/Ubuntu-based systems. Once you understand the differences, it translates surprisingly well. It's Linux after all.
And once you acknowledge that Manjaro does things differently from vanilla Arch, like being heavily authored by the devs, it's actually not that big of a deal.
There's nothing wrong with vanilla Arch and nothing wrong with Manjaro. They do things differently. Simple as.

Maybe it's best to view Manjaro decoupled from Arch. Like some already do view Ubuntu decoupled from Debian, despite being a downstream project, but because it does some things radically different.

Once you understand the differences, then there's no need to hamstring yourself with Manjaro anyway.

Once you understand the core principle of FOSS, there's no need to judge others for which distribution they chose to use.

Every distribution has their advantages and their disadvantages. People should use whichever one is most suitable for them or for the task at hand.

TL;DR: If someone is happy using Manjaro, leave them be. That is their choice.

[Masque]

I'll probably end up switching to Linux eventually.

I just hope I don't have to learn to type commands again. I haven't had to do that since the days of DOS 6.2 and Commodore 64, as a casual, non-programming end-user.

And Linux, from what little I've seen, is full of commands that make no damn sense in English.

Like "PRINT" means, in a sane, normal operating system or language, you know, "print".

Does what it says on the tin.

I saw the Linux version of that command once, and I turned around and shut the door, broke the key off in the lock, and walked away.

[Masque]

To print "Hello, World!" in a file in Linux, you can follow these steps

1 Create a new file called hello.sh using a text editor such as nano or vi/vim.
2 Add the following code to the file: #!/bin/bash echo "Hello, World!"
3 Set the script executable permission by running chmod command: $ chmod -v +x hello.sh
4 Run or execute the script using any one of the following syntax: $ ./hello.sh OR $ sh hello.sh OR $ bash hello.sh

Alternatively, you can use the echo command to write the string to a file: sudo echo -e 'Hello, World! nThis is PNAP!' >> test.txt

This is why people won't switch. This right here.

Not:

10 Print "Hello World!"
RUN

I think the userbase likes it that way, because they don't *want* everyone to switch. If everyone switched to Linux, then Linux is what most of the malware would me made for. So lets keep it arcane, obscure, and nigh unusable to anyone without a four-shelf stack of books.

That's my theory. And it makes sense, in a way. Who wants malware, right?

[sleeps]

Originalmente postado por Masque:

To print "Hello, World!" in a file in Linux, you can follow these steps

1 Create a new file called hello.sh using a text editor such as nano or vi/vim.
2 Add the following code to the file: #!/bin/bash echo "Hello, World!"
3 Set the script executable permission by running chmod command: $ chmod -v +x hello.sh
4 Run or execute the script using any one of the following syntax: $ ./hello.sh OR $ sh hello.sh OR $ bash hello.sh

Alternatively, you can use the echo command to write the string to a file: sudo echo -e 'Hello, World! nThis is PNAP!' >> test.txt

This is why people won't switch. This right here.

Not:

10 Print "Hello World!"
RUN

I think the userbase likes it that way, because they don't *want* everyone to switch. If everyone switched to Linux, then Linux is what most of the malware would me made for. So lets keep it arcane, obscure, and nigh unusable to anyone without a four-shelf stack of books.

That's my theory. And it makes sense, in a way. Who wants malware, right?

people won't switch because people don't want to manually download it themselves. which could be the reason why android is more popular than linux despite being technically linux itself. i don't think people are coders tho.

[BlackBloodGhost]

Originalmente postado por Masque:

To print "Hello, World!" in a file in Linux, you can follow these steps

1 Create a new file called hello.sh using a text editor such as nano or vi/vim.
2 Add the following code to the file: #!/bin/bash echo "Hello, World!"
3 Set the script executable permission by running chmod command: $ chmod -v +x hello.sh
4 Run or execute the script using any one of the following syntax: $ ./hello.sh OR $ sh hello.sh OR $ bash hello.sh

Alternatively, you can use the echo command to write the string to a file: sudo echo -e 'Hello, World! nThis is PNAP!' >> test.txt

This is why people won't switch. This right here.

Not:

10 Print "Hello World!"
RUN

I think the userbase likes it that way, because they don't *want* everyone to switch. If everyone switched to Linux, then Linux is what most of the malware would me made for. So lets keep it arcane, obscure, and nigh unusable to anyone without a four-shelf stack of books.

That's my theory. And it makes sense, in a way. Who wants malware, right?

Uhuh. And how many regular users are doing that on Windows?

You are taking a bit of a stretch though and trying to over complicate things. If you really want a shell file with one line you can do so as follows:

File contents (named anything, no file extension necessary):

echo "Hello World"

To run said file:

sh file

This way you don't need to set execution permissions nor include the shebang. You only need those when you wish to have the program directly launchable.

Although, you don't need sudo at all in any case for your example.

[Lune]

Linux might sound great but i don't have the time to open a command prompt and type a gazillion of lines just to install a browser

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Originalmente postado por 8bitter:

Linux might sound great but i don't have the time to open a command prompt and type a gazillion of lines just to install a browser

don't worry. you can just install it from app store if terminals are not your thing. or don't because certain distro already have browsers preinstalled