Why can't we follow Asian culture of shaming fat people?

[Hanzo The Rain]

So, that way everyone is pressured to stay fit and we wouldn't have any epidemic of health issues?

[Jefft]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Soniaa ♡:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Fake:

If someone has a slow metabolism, maybe they should eat less? I know, it's a crazy concept.

As for stress, working out is a stress reliever.

Not simple ,eating less also has its consequences, being tired being one of them, again, depends on the person...

And working out is not even a solution to stress, like is not guaranteed that it will fix it even if you do it consistently, it does not work with everybody and everybody has a different way (more effective for them I mean) to release stress

Going to gym is not a magical solution to everything...

100% ^

[The Presence]

To add my opinion on the whole gym thing and this might be an unpopular opinion:

It's a temporary fix or band-aid in a lot of cases. If the person is overweight or (morbidly) obese because they simply eat too much, sure, working out and/or eating less will work for them.

But once you're dealing with it as a symptom of underlying issues then working out is a temporary fix and they'll bounce back and relapse the moment they stop. Like I used as an example earlier, if it's mental health, you'd have to help them with their stress or depression, etc. before they can be healthy on the long term and reliably maintain a healthy weight. Same goes for causes that are unrelated to mental health.

And I still maintain that shaming them is not the right way to go about it. Ever.

[Birds]

Studies have shown that shame actually acts to encourage the shamed behavior in a small majority of the population.

The idea behind fat shaming is to create a negative relationship with food overall, for economic reasons.

[TwisterCat]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Jamie Skateboard:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Fake:

Fat comes from calories that aren't being used.

Again, stop making excuses. Get to the gym.

'Get to the gym' - do I look fat to you? Lmfao.

No... *gulp*

[Ganger]

In the western world we have surely lost our way and other cultures simply laugh at us. Not only that you get immigrants who come to you country with little to no money and speaking hardly any english and end up doing really well and become better citizens who love their adopted country. While people who are born and bred do nothing but complain, moan, b**** and blame other people for their failures in life.

Plus when our society says an 30 stone obese person is healthy, a man who exercises every day is toxic and that men can bread feed babies, you know we have deep sited issues and problems within western society.

[fawkee]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sleepy:

So, that way everyone is pressured to stay fit and we wouldn't have any epidemic of health issues?

Why can't we follow the (North) Korean culture and just let people who ask stupid questions disappear into the prison camp? .... Simple answer, as to the question of the creator: Because we value freedom and not the coercion of public opinion

[Zeno]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Birds:

Oprindeligt skrevet af TillEulenspiegel:

Its not only Asians who do it. Lets say it like this, its most western cultures who do NOT do it.

I am not a big fan of shaming people for something, but I think it should certainly be battled because obesity is extremely dangerous and unhealthy, its nothing people should ever tolerate or accept.

Okay but obesity is made up. You're creating an idealized 'thin version' of someone whose bone structure may not even support that, and creating 'acceptable sizes' for peoples fat stores to be placed in and shaped around.

It's simple genetic discrimination at its core, all other factors aside.

Obesity is not made up. Obesity is the excessive amount of body fat including visceral fat (fat on your organs) due to over-eating and bad lifestyle choices.
Obesity massively increases the risks of getting deadly diseases and damaging your joints as well as reduces your capabilities as a human when it comes to movement.

Did you live in a cave for the last hundreds of years or why are you dismissing repetitively proven scientific answers regarding obesity as well as obvious life experience and statistics showing how these people ALWAYS get sick earlier or later dying earlier.

Either you are baiting here or you are severely delusional.

Its scary what some YouTubers can do to people's minds nowadays.

[ambi]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Acetyl:

The dominant power wants everyone poisoned, dependent, and weak. Your body puts on weight when toxic load increases or hormones are disrupted, thus increasing estrogen to protect the brain and put on more fat, where it can store these toxins that it can't turn into water soluble compounds fast enough to remove through the kidneys. To make being obese unacceptable would eventually have people asking question, and the people who rule this place would have to scale back their mass poisoning schemes or risk being discovered.

The UK banned fitness ads.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/apr/29/beach-body-ready-ad-faces-formal-inquiry-as-campaign-sparks-outrage

The controversial ad campaign featuring a model in a bikini that asks “Are you beach body ready?” has been banned by the advertising watchdog because of “concerns” over its weight loss claims.

After receiving about 360 complaints about the campaign, mostly that it objectified women, the Advertising Standards Authority has also launched an inquiry into whether the ad is offensive.

[Zeno]

Oprindeligt skrevet af miss shapiro:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Acetyl:

The dominant power wants everyone poisoned, dependent, and weak. Your body puts on weight when toxic load increases or hormones are disrupted, thus increasing estrogen to protect the brain and put on more fat, where it can store these toxins that it can't turn into water soluble compounds fast enough to remove through the kidneys. To make being obese unacceptable would eventually have people asking question, and the people who rule this place would have to scale back their mass poisoning schemes or risk being discovered.

The UK banned fitness ads.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/apr/29/beach-body-ready-ad-faces-formal-inquiry-as-campaign-sparks-outrage

The controversial ad campaign featuring a model in a bikini that asks “Are you beach body ready?” has been banned by the advertising watchdog because of “concerns” over its weight loss claims.

After receiving about 360 complaints about the campaign, mostly that it objectified women, the Advertising Standards Authority has also launched an inquiry into whether the ad is offensive.

Well they should do whatever they want, eventually they have to deal with the consequences.
The UK already has a too high amount of obesity and heart deaths in their population, if they know go against fitness ads and fitness lifestyle because some insecure activists want it like this, then the country will eventually end up in a very bad place.

I guess all of this will have consequences, listening to small minorities who push illogical and often harmful agendas. What has this world become, where every madman can have a say in politics and how we live our life, looks like there is no common sense anymore.

[⚜Z3⚜ eris in cybersamsara]

We should ban Hamburgers and Corn Syrup.

[Not Big Surprise]

shame isn't a healthy way to solve the issue

[Xero_Daxter]

Oprindeligt skrevet af mercy_maya:

We should ban Hamburgers and Corn Syrup.

Rip 90 percent of American Foods.

[nullpo]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

I thought Obesity in China was currently in an all time worst among teenagers?

Well for older people obese people are seen as prosperous for chineese, at least in the area where I grew up anyways. It gets to the point where some older people in my village where I lived occasionally give me money for their good luck just because I have fat body and big ears, so they often draw comparison to me with the smiling buddha or liu bei.

[ZZZZZ]

how would u shame to begin with if majority of ppl are overweight

[talemore]

Forth now we will promote fat obese children with astma and call them little emperor and little fat princess