Females and males in university (bad experience).

[Tiberius]

Is this what universities are like nowadays ?

I am a 30 yrs old man, father, dude with a solid career and quite some life experience by now.

4 yrs ago I decided to do a distance BSc in Psychology in a UK university.

Now something I noticed was that a large portion of the females I studied alongside (we had WhatsApp groups, forums, video group calls and so on and on) were extremely arrogant, ultra-feminist (so very anti men and anti family) and many also very self-entitled. Females who acted like this literally reached from the age of 18 to 40.

The few males that studied there as well, usually acted like complete " simps " and " white knights ".

Now my question is, is this normal on modern universities ? Is this a thing you encounter in psychology degrees more than in others ? Am I just an idiot ?

Maybe some of the younger folks who are studying or did recently study can clear things up for me.

I am asking because I lost my believe in the academic part of society a little and it scares me even more that these people will actually be practicing psychologists at some point.

PS: I am not pursuing psychology, I just did it out of interest but was quite disappointed to some extend... All this taught me was that I am very happy where I am right now, in a well paying IT job.

No hate please. I am genuinely asking. I know that not all males and females studying are like this, it just felt like a large portion.

PS: I also want to mention that the toxicity, fights and hate that was spread there amongst students was on a level I have never experienced like this in my life, not back in school, not at work, nowhere. It felt like I was surrounded by mad activists who want to throw me in a dungeon and remove my manhood and soul from me.


People should look up the comment section and how beta male,soy boys, white knigths and feminists have ganged up against me. Proving I must have hit a wound spot.

[Tiberius]

Shiro♌ a écrit :

Altai a écrit :

Not my mentality so I had to really control myself. There were several occassions where I could NOT stand still, when other students got bullied and they tried to report them for nothing get them out of uni and such, I had to step in. Obviously I immediately was the target of them.

But I stood my grounds and often tutors were on my side as well.

Its just shocking how I assume in the U.S made twisted ideologies have infected people in the Uk as well.

I would've called that a bad luck, but perhaps that's just the way things are nowadays..
What I have meant to say is that it's not worth the risk, at least not nowadays. Back then, perhaps, but nowadays it's simply a pure chaos.

Yeah I agree on that one.

Although you have to admit, if NO ONE ever stands up against these people with this toxic mentality, then the world isn't particularly changing for the better.

Good things almost always only happened due to people standing up and not just sitting back and watching. I am the father of a son, I certainly have a responsibility in forming the world to a better place for him and the current development is going very much against men and also against women.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Altai a écrit :

videomike_Ultimate_Plushie a écrit :

Ugh, to even get into this conversation is complicated.

a very large part of the group even going to university instead of focusing on just getting into a trade through direct apprenticships nowadays are usually people who are already politically one-sided in the first place. There's a bias in the customer base which effects the results. And then you get into the docterine the teachers outright -force- on the students while demanding anyone speaking against it is evil

I remember once I pointed out that a man trying to sleep with a woman who walked before him in the social equivalent of an easy to remove bathrobe and saying "please, let me serve you my lord."(medieval noble) is not rape. I got told I had to stop speaking because it was rape apologia to even suggest there is an issue with mixed signals....and the teacher ignored when that same supposed victim later in the story walked into the room of the man she liked, in the middle of night, pushed him to the bed, and shoved her tongue down his throat. Because sexual liberation of woman.

I am so lucky I got a fantastic teacher for the oen sociology course I had tyo take

Dude, I even had some understanding for the young girls in my uni who acted like this, they are young, inexperienced and so on.. I get it.

But the amount of adult mature women who studied there, 30+ and who acted like this, most of them being mothers and in a full time job where they often had quite some responsibility over the mental health of patients, was shocking and scary to me.

Indeed. The fact most of the room was on her side is the worst part. But yes this was the professor pulling this not just some young student, along with the older woman in the room. I admit I was oblivious to her political leanings up until she literally quoted gamergate to insult an entire set of awards as "an award only made by white males angry that non-white males were winning their awards." which becomes hilarious when said award was given to the very book we were reading....written by a black woman.

But yeah. I didn't pick up on it. she wasn't a good teacher either. not the worst(Oh that story is "fun,") but pretty aweful. She also made us read Warm Bodies, the single worst book I think has been written, and a wearwolf rape novel(yes, seriously), Meanwhile, me discussing the symbolic use of "father earth" over "mother earth" and the missed story potential of not addressing actual gender(ignoring that someone called a "woman" the whole story has a penis, which was described in detail halfway though,) was just "not really discussing the concepts of sex and gender."

I had some wild teachers.....I also had one which had us read the original Centeburry tales in full middle english, which I can still do to this day(and yes, I have done so recently)

[steven1mac]

Education, particularly higher education has always been prone to certain political leanings, and the recent culture has only amplified it. Professors have to embrace the "Newspeak", and teach it's ideology, or risk their jobs. From one prospective, you can't really blame the colleges, certain funds are given more freely to the college, and scholarships are offered particularly in the humanities, almost require this culture on campus.

[Shiro♌]

Altai a écrit :

Shiro♌ a écrit :

I would've called that a bad luck, but perhaps that's just the way things are nowadays..
What I have meant to say is that it's not worth the risk, at least not nowadays. Back then, perhaps, but nowadays it's simply a pure chaos.

Yeah I agree on that one.

Although you have to admit, if NO ONE ever stands up against these people with this toxic mentality, then the world isn't particularly changing for the better.

Good things almost always only happened due to people standing up and not just sitting back and watching. I am the father of a son, I certainly have a responsibility in forming the world to a better place for him and the current development is going very much against men and also against women.

Yes, that's a fair point, but is that really worth the risk?
Unless you can ensure that you will be backed up by a few hundreds of the students to make it a fair case, you're not getting away without the negative consequences, and so the better option becomes to mind your own business exactly because of that.
It's not fair, but they've done something to start such a reaction, unfortunately ending up in the negative way for them.

The world is never gonna get better.. Not until some animals develop and take over the entire planet.
The fact that you're outnumbered only confirms that you should be more careful.

[kilésengati]

You've studied a social science. On top of that at a British/anglosphere university. What did you expect? Should've studied at an Eastern German university. (Berlin isn't Eastern Germany, btw.)

When I started studying, girls and boys, men and women, straight and queer, left and right were all pretty based - particularly the Easterners and those that have lived here long enough. The students were absolutely normal human beings wanting to learn stuff and meet other people. The odd social justice types kept themselves busy with the AstA and StuRa, where they have the illusion of power, but do ♥♥♥♥ all for the students they were supposed to represent. Besides stupid uni politics, no weird dynamics.
The university I studied at at the time was crap though, which isn't representative of Eastern German unis at all. But this uni in particular has become infamous for its poor administration. Maybe misusing the the uni's democratic institutions as SJW kindergarten, so they are too busy to interfere with day-to-day life, backfired eventually.

[Tiberius]

Shiro♌ a écrit :

Altai a écrit :

Yeah I agree on that one.

Although you have to admit, if NO ONE ever stands up against these people with this toxic mentality, then the world isn't particularly changing for the better.

Good things almost always only happened due to people standing up and not just sitting back and watching. I am the father of a son, I certainly have a responsibility in forming the world to a better place for him and the current development is going very much against men and also against women.

Yes, that's a fair point, but is that really worth the risk?
Unless you can ensure that you will be backed up by a few hundreds of the students to make it a fair case, you're not getting away without the negative consequences, and so the better option becomes to mind your own business exactly because of that.
It's not fair, but they've done something to start such a reaction, unfortunately ending up in the negative way for them.

The world is never gonna get better.. Not until some animals develop and take over the entire planet.
The fact that you're outnumbered only confirms that you should be more careful.

In University its probably not worth the risk, but in life generally it is.

A University is a place you only spend some time in, thats it. But if you make a career or have some hobby you love or whatever permanent, you are eventually forced to take action OR give up what you do. Now if you always give up everything you do because of such disease spreading into it, you will eventually stand there without anything plus the humiliation and regret.

[barbie]

everyone in my college is nice so far

[Tiberius]

kilésengati a écrit :

You've studied a social science. On top of that at a British/anglosphere university. What did you expect? Should've studied at an Eastern German university. (Berlin isn't Eastern Germany, btw.)

When I started studying, girls and boys, men and women, straight and queer, left and right were all pretty based - particularly the Easterners and those that have lived here long enough. The students were absolutely normal human beings wanting to learn stuff and meet other people. The odd social justice types kept themselves busy with the AstA and StuRa, where they have the illusion of power, but do ♥♥♥♥ all for the students they were supposed to represent. Besides stupid uni politics, no weird dynamics.
The university I studied at at the time was crap though, which isn't representative of Eastern German unis at all. But this uni in particular has become infamous for its poor administration. Maybe misusing the the uni's democratic institutions as SJW kindergarten, so they are too busy to interfere with day-to-day life, backfired eventually.

I did not have this option since I never finished my Abitur plus Psychology is known to be generally more advanced in UK universities regarding the variety of topics.

I still don't regret studying there, I am just disappointed and lost a bit of respect for the field.

I have friends who studied in Germany and have many other problems they talk about.

[GunsForBucks]

Well the field is full of psychos and always has been.

Most of the ones I met were control freak types. Very high opinions of themselves etc.
Opinionated and critical... seemed the opposite of what they should be but maybe they fell most people just need to be told what to do since they can't think for themselves? That seemed the vibe they gave off.

Using dark rooms to create a depressing environment to try and convince you that you need their therapy etc... really shady stuff, triggered me a bit honestly.

Only psych I could trust was an old guy who told me he a survivors guilt over being forced to watch as his parents were put in the ovens in Germany.

I knew this person had a reason to help others and wouldn't try manipulate or lie to me, he was driven to help others from his own issues.

But seriously, most of them are in there since they are broken as well. Well, who is truly normal?

[Shiro♌]

Altai a écrit :

Shiro♌ a écrit :

Yes, that's a fair point, but is that really worth the risk?
Unless you can ensure that you will be backed up by a few hundreds of the students to make it a fair case, you're not getting away without the negative consequences, and so the better option becomes to mind your own business exactly because of that.
It's not fair, but they've done something to start such a reaction, unfortunately ending up in the negative way for them.

The world is never gonna get better.. Not until some animals develop and take over the entire planet.
The fact that you're outnumbered only confirms that you should be more careful.

In University its probably not worth the risk, but in life generally it is.

A University is a place you only spend some time in, thats it. But if you make a career or have some hobby you love or whatever permanent, you are eventually forced to take action OR give up what you do. Now if you always give up everything you do because of such disease spreading into it, you will eventually stand there without anything plus the humiliation and regret.

Absolutely, that's a fair point and I completely agree with that.
You're right.

[Tiberius]

GunsForBucks a écrit :

Well the field is full of psychos and always has been.

Most of the ones I met were control freak types. Very high opinions of themselves etc.
Opinionated and critical... seemed the opposite of what they should be but maybe they fell most people just need to be told what to do since they can't think for themselves? That seemed the vibe they gave off.

Using dark rooms to create a depressing environment to try and convince you that you need their therapy etc... really shady stuff, triggered me a bit honestly.

Only psych I could trust was an old guy who told me he a survivors guilt over being forced to watch as his parents were put in the ovens in Germany.

I knew this person had a reason to help others and wouldn't try manipulate or lie to me, he was driven to help others from his own issues.

But seriously, most of them are in there since they are broken as well. Well, who is truly normal?

There is only a tiny amount of truly good psychologists in the field. Too many girls who think they are good psychologists because they are overly emotional, while being emotional is exactly what a psychologist should NOT be. Empathic yes, but not emotional.

[Tiberius]

Shiro♌ a écrit :

Altai a écrit :

In University its probably not worth the risk, but in life generally it is.

A University is a place you only spend some time in, thats it. But if you make a career or have some hobby you love or whatever permanent, you are eventually forced to take action OR give up what you do. Now if you always give up everything you do because of such disease spreading into it, you will eventually stand there without anything plus the humiliation and regret.

Absolutely, that's a fair point and I completely agree with that.
You're right.

Yes and I want to expand this. I met many young guys 16-19 who are super depressed, lack confidence and self-respect because they encounter women online, in real life and wherever who tell them they are worthless men and need to have this, do this, be this, have done that and so on in order to ever get laid.

I can only tell people like this, dont become a simp or a white knight. BE YOURSELF, DO YOUR THING. Women who are like this aren't worth it in the first place and a strong steady man who respects himself and knows what he wants, will also find a woman who is on the same level and have a happy life one day.

I know that young guys lack the experience to know this or feel this, but any good psychologist would share this advise with modern young insecure lads.

[kilésengati]

Altai a écrit :

kilésengati a écrit :

You've studied a social science. On top of that at a British/anglosphere university. What did you expect? Should've studied at an Eastern German university. (Berlin isn't Eastern Germany, btw.)

When I started studying, girls and boys, men and women, straight and queer, left and right were all pretty based - particularly the Easterners and those that have lived here long enough. The students were absolutely normal human beings wanting to learn stuff and meet other people. The odd social justice types kept themselves busy with the AstA and StuRa, where they have the illusion of power, but do ♥♥♥♥ all for the students they were supposed to represent. Besides stupid uni politics, no weird dynamics.
The university I studied at at the time was crap though, which isn't representative of Eastern German unis at all. But this uni in particular has become infamous for its poor administration. Maybe misusing the the uni's democratic institutions as SJW kindergarten, so they are too busy to interfere with day-to-day life, backfired eventually.

I did not have this option since I never finished my Abitur plus Psychology is known to be generally more advanced in UK universities regarding the variety of topics.

I still don't regret studying there, I am just disappointed and lost a bit of respect for the field.

I have friends who studied in Germany and have many other problems they talk about.

So that's why Baerbock went to study in Britain!? ;P

I'm pretty sure all the wokeism is a result of how "advanced" their social sciences are.

Well, the grass is always greener on the other side.

By the way, did you know, here in Germany, if you have a vocational degree, after a certain time working, without an Abitur, you can also take up studying in the field of your profession at a university of applied sciences.

[Tiberius]

kilésengati a écrit :

Altai a écrit :

I did not have this option since I never finished my Abitur plus Psychology is known to be generally more advanced in UK universities regarding the variety of topics.

I still don't regret studying there, I am just disappointed and lost a bit of respect for the field.

I have friends who studied in Germany and have many other problems they talk about.

So that's why Baerbock went to study in Britain!? ;P

I'm pretty sure all the wokeism is a result of how "advanced" their social sciences are.

Well, the grass is always greener on the other side.

By the way, did you know, here in Germany, if you have a vocational degree, after a certain time working, without an Abitur, you can also take up studying in the field of your profession at a university of applied sciences.

Tbh, I dont know how she even managed to get a UK degree with her horrible horrible english skills. Its beyond me.

Yeah I am aware of the vocational degree thing, but I only have a HS (qualified) since I skipped " realschule " and immediately went into evening gymnasium but never finished.

Sucks I guess ?

I never felt the need to go through this over here so I went to a private uni abroad. No regrets.

Next year I do my MBA in Switzerland amongst my full time job.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Shiro♌ a écrit :

Altai a écrit :

Yeah I agree on that one.

Although you have to admit, if NO ONE ever stands up against these people with this toxic mentality, then the world isn't particularly changing for the better.

Good things almost always only happened due to people standing up and not just sitting back and watching. I am the father of a son, I certainly have a responsibility in forming the world to a better place for him and the current development is going very much against men and also against women.

Yes, that's a fair point, but is that really worth the risk?
Unless you can ensure that you will be backed up by a few hundreds of the students to make it a fair case, you're not getting away without the negative consequences, and so the better option becomes to mind your own business exactly because of that.
It's not fair, but they've done something to start such a reaction, unfortunately ending up in the negative way for them.

The world is never gonna get better.. Not until some animals develop and take over the entire planet.
The fact that you're outnumbered only confirms that you should be more careful.

And if you dont stand up to defend yourself and others then no one will EVER have a fair case, it just be tyranny of the people willing to violently attack, be it by administration or physical violence, anyone said mob targets. You can't just ignore bad actors in the world. Sure, let someone else fight if you know they can, but ignoring an injustice in front of you creates the very situation you're calling unfair in the first place. If it's unfair, have the courage to stand up and change the situation rather than leaving the whole world thinking they're all alone and scared.