Christian then atheist

[Bobbyk]

I was born in Christian family, but growing up I realised how it didn't work and I slowly turned atheist before 12. Then I tried to become Christian again, but failed and I stayed atheist. I saw most Christian people judging others, but they themselves sinned a lot. I grew up in fear thinking that the world is gonna end up soon, but nothing happened. I think respecting others and their beliefs is important as long as they won't do something bad to me.

Ps: Don't tell atheist people they go to hell, they don't believe in hell.

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

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Fertility rate says otherwise.

This isn't a religious judgement, it is an evolutionary judgement.

Uh...non-religious people have children as well. What are you talking about?

Man mocks reddit and then uses reddit logic.

Religious people tend to procreate way more and have stronger family ties, look at Mormons or Roman Catholics.

I think thats what they were getting at.

[Azza ☠]

There are over 50,000 branches of Christianity...

Some are actually pretty good, such as 89% of all the world's charities are run by Christians, also they built our homeless shelters and schools, etc. The best Christians are the ones that actually fly right under the radar, not forcing their religion upon others but rather secretly helping them out anyways. Youth groups, etc. Christians also replaced a ton of negative dates with their own positive holidays, since they didn't have a calendar back then. Christmas is actually the darkness day of the year and originally pagan for example, with the murdering of a virgin.

Religious or not, at least respect part of it. Given that a ton of Christians even go against the teachings of Jesus with their empathy or morals. People are still just human.

It's not really the religion itself, Jesus himself never had a religion, but rather the empathy, ethical and mortal teachings we could all learn from.

Even if you are an atheist, you have faith in something, such as a theory... it's not unless you are an agnostic, which you actually deny and choice to ignore creation all together.

Religious people apply an intelligence to creation, while Athiests assume it's from random chaos. Both still have the same level of faith otherwise.

[Rio]

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There are over 50,000 branches of Christianity...

Some are actually pretty good, such as 89% of all the world's charities are run by Christians, also they built our homeless shelters and schools, etc. The best Christians are the ones that actually fly right under the radar, not forcing their religion upon others but rather secretly helping them out anyways. Youth groups, etc. Christians also replaced a ton of negative dates with their own positive holidays, since they didn't have a calendar back then. Christmas is actually the darkness day of the year and originally pagan for example, with the murdering of a virgin.

Religious or not, at least respect part of it. Given that a ton of Christians even go against the teachings of Jesus with their empathy or morals. People are still just human.

Thats too many, I prefer a tree with no branches. Well sometime it needs a few, but few as possible

[Azza ☠]

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There are over 50,000 branches of Christianity...

Some are actually pretty good, such as 89% of all the world's charities are run by Christians, also they built our homeless shelters and schools, etc. The best Christians are the ones that actually fly right under the radar, not forcing their religion upon others but rather secretly helping them out anyways. Youth groups, etc. Christians also replaced a ton of negative dates with their own positive holidays, since they didn't have a calendar back then. Christmas is actually the darkness day of the year and originally pagan for example, with the murdering of a virgin.

Religious or not, at least respect part of it. Given that a ton of Christians even go against the teachings of Jesus with their empathy or morals. People are still just human.

Thats too many, I prefer a tree with no branches. Well sometime it needs a few, but few as possible

I personally believe with that many... probably none are actually 100% valid. Yet that's not the point.

If you are using religion as a scapegoat excuse to do something, well them forgive me for not being brainwashed by it. If you are however using religion for moral and ethical teachings, well sweet, I see no issues with that. Even if the religion itself is wrong by human error, it's still for the positive good.

Religion can be just as bad as a cult, if you don't question it and just follow it blindsided. Oh we need to donate money to be accept is complete b.s. The Destiny Church of New Zealand does that. Reject the LGBTQ, yet Jesus even hanged out with them, including even hookers. Claiming thou shall not judge, unless thou be judged yourself. You can tell if a religion rejects someone, if they are really following the given morals and ethical values.

[GoreTiger]

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Uh...non-religious people have children as well. What are you talking about?

Man mocks reddit and then uses reddit logic.

Religious people tend to procreate way more and have stronger family ties, look at Mormons or Roman Catholics.

I think thats what they were getting at.

Yeah no, that isn't true at all, especially here in North America.

Plus those "bonds" feel extremely fake.

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

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Religious people tend to procreate way more and have stronger family ties, look at Mormons or Roman Catholics.

I think thats what they were getting at.

Yeah no, that isn't true at all, especially here in North America.

Plus those "bonds" feel extremely fake.

Whatever helps you cope about it, families can have drama between them but a large family overwhelmingly has family ties that keep them united for life

I have 7 siblings and we are all very close and they have budding families themselves.

Maybe you are just upset your family isn't what you think it is but that doesnt make all families like that friend.

Raised Roman Catholic and while not everyone holds the religion the religion helped paved the way for big glorious Italianism.



And dont even get me started on those mormons, some how italians got mob shows and these mormons get tlc we have 19 kids shows.

[GoreTiger]

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Yeah no, that isn't true at all, especially here in North America.

Plus those "bonds" feel extremely fake.

Whatever helps you cope about it, families can have drama between them but a large family overwhelmingly has family ties that keep them united for life

I have 7 siblings and we are all very close and they have budding families themselves.

Maybe you are just upset your family isn't what you think it is but that doesnt make all families like that friend.

Raised Roman Catholic and while not everyone holds the religion the religion helped paved the way for big glorious Italianism.



And dont even get me started on those mormons, some how italians got mob shows and these mormons get tlc we have 19 kids shows.

It's not about "coping". Large families can have close bonds without some excuse like religion to do so.

You could even argue that Big families who don't rely on religion to stay close are more genuine then those that do, Considering one bonds for the sake of the family while the other bonds under the belief that it's what their religion wants them to do.

Religious people have been coping for the past decade that society is finally moving away from letting fairy tales and dogma control it.

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

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Whatever helps you cope about it, families can have drama between them but a large family overwhelmingly has family ties that keep them united for life

I have 7 siblings and we are all very close and they have budding families themselves.

Maybe you are just upset your family isn't what you think it is but that doesnt make all families like that friend.

Raised Roman Catholic and while not everyone holds the religion the religion helped paved the way for big glorious Italianism.



And dont even get me started on those mormons, some how italians got mob shows and these mormons get tlc we have 19 kids shows.

It's not about "coping". Large families can have close bonds without some excuse like religion to do so.

You could even argue that Big families who don't rely on religion to stay close are more genuine then those that do, Considering one bonds for the sake of the family while the other bonds under the belief that it's what their religion wants them to do.

Religious people have been coping for the past decade that society is finally moving away from letting fairy tales and dogma control it.

Thats why birth rates are falling in the modern day right because people aren't moving away from religion and the family unit?

[Not Big Surprise]

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i keep seeing people talking about fertility and offspring all the time, hinging their entire arguments on that

is having kids everything you people have going on in your lives or something?

Kids are everything, We wouldn't exist if we weren't them once. Giving up having kids is the single biggest choice a person can make in life. Because its life itself.

so is having kids at all
difference being that the latter has an incomparable impact in the life of another person— the person whose existence starts as a direct result of your decision

it doesn't matter when the person begins properly existing, the fact remains that you caused it, that you imposed existence upon that child without their consent

you might think "it's impossible to ask someone if they consent to begin existing"
and, yes, you're right
childbearing is a breach of consent


but anyway, back to the point
no, "fertility rates" don't determine whether or not something is good for people

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It's not about "coping". Large families can have close bonds without some excuse like religion to do so.

You could even argue that Big families who don't rely on religion to stay close are more genuine then those that do, Considering one bonds for the sake of the family while the other bonds under the belief that it's what their religion wants them to do.

Religious people have been coping for the past decade that society is finally moving away from letting fairy tales and dogma control it.

Thats why birth rates are falling in the modern day right because people aren't moving away from religion and the family unit?

i'm guessing things such as economic crises, microplastics, and extreme stress, might be bigger factors
none of which actually change in any significant way by people being christian or not

[Faster With Feeling]

Can relate. I became a Christian and was so for something like 10 years but over that time it wore me down. My early enthusiasm just got worn down by what I kept seeing around me at meetings, and at church on Sundays. We used to have a morning service and then an evening service that was there mostly for those that could not attend in the morning.

That was fine but over the years but what got me down was their constant preaching which centered around money and wealth, and self gratification. it just got to me and I left.

I would not say I am an atheist as such, as I do believe in God just I don't see a need to attend a place of worship or do I have the desire to do that. I just can't.

[Candyy]

Believes do not make sense when they cannot be proven

[GoreTiger]

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It's not about "coping". Large families can have close bonds without some excuse like religion to do so.

You could even argue that Big families who don't rely on religion to stay close are more genuine then those that do, Considering one bonds for the sake of the family while the other bonds under the belief that it's what their religion wants them to do.

Religious people have been coping for the past decade that society is finally moving away from letting fairy tales and dogma control it.

Thats why birth rates are falling in the modern day right because people aren't moving away from religion and the family unit?

Birth rates are falling for any number of reasons but the biggest is the fact that not many people feel they can AFFORD to have a family.

You sit here and talk about family bonding and religion being the source for a stable population, Japan has a strict code of honor when it comes to respecting family and tradition yet their birth rate has plummeted.

You're doing exactly what religion was created to do: Using religion to explain something you can't explain yourself.

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

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Thats why birth rates are falling in the modern day right because people aren't moving away from religion and the family unit?

Birth rates are falling for any number of reasons but the biggest is the fact that not many people feel they can AFFORD to have a family.

You sit here and talk about family bonding and religion being the source for a stable population, Japan has a strict code of honor when it comes to respecting family and tradition yet their birth rate has plummeted.

You're doing exactly what religion was created to do: Using religion to explain something you can't explain yourself.

Welp you know what brings me faith and joy? The fact that you wont ever have a large family cause you wont do what needs to be done to do it, nor do you have the faith that your family can thrive. I'm luckily a guy I can procreate til im dead.

I have a firm belief that my faith whatever it may actually be will guide me to a loving family some day, maybe I cant explain why I feel this way but with WW3 looming and people literally being genetic dead ends, I feel I have a good future for myself either now or in 20 years.

Glory to men, glory god, glory to me.

May the Eternal Emperor reign among us.

[Not Big Surprise]

breeding is gigacope for the inevitability of death

[Sarge the Comfy Gaming Doggo]

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breeding is gigacope for the inevitability of death

Then lets all turn our outside inward and pray we will find hope otherwise yes?