Do you like games with endless updates?

[Tazor]

Live service games like League of Legends, Counter Strike Global Offensive (now CS 2), World of Warcraft.

I personally don't. They have changed so much I stopped playing them. I don't like them anymore. The graphics, gameplay, systems. They are completely different from what they were when they came out. And there is no way to play those versions again.

I was thinking about this while playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein for probably over the 100th time. The enemies will always be in the same places, the bugged door sound on village 1 will never be fixed, the FG 42 will never be nerfed.

For me it's nice to know I'm playing a game that is finished.

[GunsForBucks]

Not really.

I don't mind updates but what you see a lot of is endless paid power-creep. Meaning if you don't pay you can't even compete even if they make new areas public. Or they will put out powerful new stuff you pay for then have a "rebalance" and nerf it after.

It's mostly a scam. I honestly could care less about micros for cosmetics, I would rather see that if they need ongoing income sources.

[Dracoco OwO]

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Not me. It ruined EverQuest and it's currently ruining Terraria.

Don't Starve x Terraria update caught me off guard. Was that even real?

It's real in both sides in Terraria there is a Don't Starve Map generation with a new Deerclops boss and in Don't Starve there is the Twins and eye cthulhu bosses.

[HALO_run]

csgo isn't a game it's a joke told badly

[Crazy Tiger]

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Most games that are like that are MP games, so not stuff I care about. The 3 titles listed in the OP also don't interest me.

Warcraft 3, Cyberpunk, No Man's Sky. It's not just MP games that receive endless updates.

I know. Which is why I said "most games that are like that are MP games" and not "it's only MP games that are like that".

Stellaris and such also have "endless" updates and such. But ultimately it's mostly GaaS that have it and those are mostly MP oriented.

[skOsH♥]

Some games I play for comfort, other games I play merely to keep my brain sharp, even if I don't enjoy the game all the time.

I don't want to just remember the same thing over and over, unless it's good memories, but I still don't want to throw away my hand-eye motor skills

[Phirestar]

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I don’t think the act of perpetually updating a game is the issue, but rather how the developers handle the changes they make to it over time.

The thing about updates “ruining a game” is that it ends up being only one or a small handful of patches which affect a game in this way. It’s when a developer changes the core mechanics and systems that usually sparks this sort of reaction from the community.

Games being constantly updated isn’t the problem. Games being reworked and having their foundational identities changed after launch is the issue.

I think "Troubleshooter - Abandoned children" proves that you're both right and wrong at the same time. The core of the gameplay remained unchanged, but the game added so many gimmicks that it broke the balance.

The argument can be made that expand upon the core features, by introducing more and more new layers to it, is a form of changing the game’s core / foundation.

My point was to say that new content additions aren’t the thing that turns people away from a game. Updates that add more levels, more areas, more story chunks, and so on - those kinds of updates don’t really lead to a game’s decline in popularity.

It’s when changes are made to the methods that players interact with that content, that causes an uproar. How the game plays is what matters to people, and that’s where you can lose fans if you modify things too much.

[MinionJoe]

Every update inevitably breaks most of the mods for the game. And while a developer may crank out patch after patch for years to keep drawing in new sales, modders eventually wander off to greener pastures. So you end up with a game with a lot of broken mods, like Space Engineers.

But if all you play is vanilla, then sure, it's fine for developers to update a game a decade after release just to get it back on the market's radar.

[Devsman]

I don't really play those kinds of games. Multiplayer is a disease. Social elements are a disease. I usually just get bugfix patches. And actually, those are kind of uncommon too since I'm usually on a several-year lag. Currently playing a 2016 game. :)

If I were good with people, I wouldn't be in my basement...

[Uncle Sam]

It depends in what kind of game is and how the devs or AAA corporation handle it's updates.
I don't mind it much as long it doesn't go full corpo, aka NFT's shenaningans, Season Passes, Gamble Boxes (loot boxes / "surprise mechanics"), Battle Passes, MTX's, a lot of DLC's, power creep, p2w, suscription model, online-only shenaningans, pre-order stuff etc.

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

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Don't Starve x Terraria update caught me off guard. Was that even real?

It's real in both sides in Terraria there is a Don't Starve Map generation with a new Deerclops boss and in Don't Starve there is the Twins and eye cthulhu bosses.

So I wasn't remembering wrong. That's cool.

[L1qu1dator]

Hell no, they piss me off!

[Xero_Daxter]

Reason why League of Legends has so many updates because of broken champions. Imagine playing Tank and no one can kill you because you have Thornmail which if an enemy attacks you they damage themselves, Sunfire Aegis where applies at burn effect on enemies, and Jak’Sho where you gain armor and magic resist each 2 seconds in combat.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

dota 2's updates made me uninstall

2 gb every few days or something is messed up, it was always a bunch of gbs very often

[Abaddon the Despoiler]

I spent 12 years playing wow for a LOT of hours each week. I ended up hating that you can never complete it, when you get close they just add more achievements.

[Rio]

Eventually with endless updates. They start taking out good mechanics, to add in new ones that are worse/different/nothing there. So that they can re-add the old one back later for a "new" update.

Like pokemon with follower pokemon

7 days to die with limited or unlimited water jars; Water jar destruction