Electric cars are a disaster

[apathy]

"Hello. I'm an electric car. :( I can't go very fast or very far and if you drive me, people will think you're gay." ~ The Simpsons.

Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? Please don't let them breed and further their stupidity upon the human race.

There's nowhere to charge these stupid EVs (electric vehicles) and they have limited coverage and range. Especially if your mode of transport is a van, needed for work to carry tools for jobs or call-outs.

Oh yeah, they lie and say you'll save money, or the government will give you subsidies and grant if your employers trade in their diesel cars for them. They are so expensive, not even getting into the problems insurers are causing Tesla drivers.


This is like British Railway's Modernisation Plan (for those living in the America - was a total f**king disaster, they got rid of thousands of reliable steam locomotives to replace them with dozens of non-standard diesel and electric engines, most had unproven untested technologies that often broke down 40-60% of the time when allocated to a train).

[Liquid Inc]

Цитата допису Labyrinth:

It's a cartoon and untested tech on British Rail? wtf you going on about? Steam engines are junk compared to diesel locos.

what OP said isn't completely wrong, but your not right on that either. Many Steam loco's could push the 3k hp mark towards the end of their lives in the 60's, even with almost non-existent maintenance. The diesels brought in to replace them struggled to push 2k, and were often unreliable. Many of the pilot scheme Diesels were scrapped before the end of Steam in '68, just to show how unreliable they were. (Claytons, Baby Deltics etc.. etc..) Some were decent but in too smaller number, and were still scrapped, like the Class 52's.
Many had to be double headed, to shift the load that their steam engine brethren could do single handedly.
The downfall of the steam engine is the excessive track wear and piston thrust, along with the maintenance and operational requirements, not the power outputs, reliability or traction.

You can also see that in preservation, many steam engines surpassed their design capabilities and "in-service" abilities, showing that had further development taken place steam engines, they could have been used for much longer than they were.

Ofcourse, the dirty smelly diesel road vehicles were favoured by the infamous report, and much of the railway was removed; Sad, that many of those rail lines would be useful today in reducing our carbon footprints and removing all the dirty road vehicles...

[Gym Leader Rory wants to battle!]

So is the climate you can choose between emerging tech or using your lamborfeeti. Ill take the EV.

[MistuhG]

New $4B Panasonic electric vehicle (EV) battery factory in Kansas requires so much power that the facility will need its own COAL plant to run

https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-09-26-panasonic-ev-factory-kansas-power-coal-plant.html

Oops!
I guess EV supporters just thought electricity comes from the wall

[apathy]

Not even sure how to respond to Labyrinth's offensively ignorant post without getting into trouble with the moderators.

[Liquid Inc]

Цитата допису WhiteKnight77:

What people really fail to realize is that all sources of energy or electricity has a dirty little secret. If one really wants to combat climate change, they need to get everyone to go back to living in caves and give up all the niceties that they use daily such as smartphones, computers, motor vehicles, air conditioning, refrigerated foods (imagine everyone having to hunt or fish and grow food by hand again), etc.

I agree. Many of the so called "environmentalists" don't seem to realise that buying food in waitrose, driving an electric SUV and walking around in primark clothes is just making them a Hypocrite. Ofcourse, if you so much as point such things out to them, your a right wing nazi and deserve to be shot

Wasn't some of them campaigning for more oil guzzling windfarms a little while ago? ....

[Fren256]

It's almost like public transportation is absolutely superior to whatever the hell car (gridlock) culture is.

[Dracoco OwO]

Electric cars are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gadgets man everything is electrical in it not just the motors, ♥♥♥♥ can't function at all without electricity and it consume it too fast.

And in my country they plan to replace all cars by electric cars at some point...

[Gym Leader Rory wants to battle!]

Цитата допису Liquid Inc:

Цитата допису WhiteKnight77:

What people really fail to realize is that all sources of energy or electricity has a dirty little secret. If one really wants to combat climate change, they need to get everyone to go back to living in caves and give up all the niceties that they use daily such as smartphones, computers, motor vehicles, air conditioning, refrigerated foods (imagine everyone having to hunt or fish and grow food by hand again), etc.

I agree. Many of the so called "environmentalists" don't seem to realise that buying food in waitrose, driving an electric SUV and walking around in primark clothes is just making them a Hypocrite. Ofcourse, if you so much as point such things out to them, your a right wing nazi and deserve to be shot

Wasn't some of them campaigning for more oil guzzling windfarms a little while ago? ....

Your referring to the myth of individual responsibility. Which is just that a myth. We cant help we were born into a capitalist system that puts profit over the planet or the workers. We can only take small steps to change it. Which would be alot easier if a bunch of brainwashed temporarily embarrassed millionaires werent defending corporate interests.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

its just too early to be converting everyone to ev, the tech needs time to learn and find better battery source
and modernise the electric power lines and stuff too, merica isnt set up for mass ev

hydrogen makes more sense if they can figure that out

[apathy]

Цитата допису Megami Blanc:

its just too early to be converting everyone to ev, the tech needs time to learn and find better battery source
and modernise the electric power lines and stuff too, merica isnt set up for mass ev

hydrogen makes more sense if they can figure that out

96% of the world's hydrogen is actually produced directly from so-called "fossil" fuels.

Not exactly "green", but then, nothing really is.

You need to know Hydrogen may have the greatest energy potential of all known materials, but it is extremely dangerous because its unstable. Diesel being less volatile, is one of the most safest fuels to transport and is difficult to ignite. Storing or transporting Hydrogen, scares the cr@p out of me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density

[Xero_Daxter]

Just put solar panels on top of your car then you can drive forever.... well... at least during the day.... and if it's not raining.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

everyone must ride a bike except delivery vehicles and crippled can use their electric gogo cart thingies

obesity- solved
pollution - solved
roads - one lane now down need big roads
healthiness - solved

[Liquid Inc]

Цитата допису Troublesome Pixie:

Your referring to the myth of individual responsibility. Which is just that a myth. We cant help we were born into a capitalist system that puts profit over the planet or the workers. We can only take small steps to change it. Which would be alot easier if a bunch of brainwashed temporarily embarrassed millionaires werent defending corporate interests.

Doing everything we personally can is an excellent way forwards, but what you can't do is tell others they're not doing enough, when your clearly not doing enough yourself..
If your still reliant on Oil in your life, what right do you have to throw things at people's windows because they're still using Oil in theirs?

You have, by your very words here, no reason to judge anyone else for what they do.

Companies are going to find their way around things and ofcourse people should be telling them to do more, but on a personal level, shouting at your neighbour for having a petrol car is downright pathetic, especially so when your driving one yourself, buying food at a local supermarket, or goods from abroad.

[Mathius]

Цитата допису Megami Blanc:

everyone must ride a bike except delivery vehicles and crippled can use their electric gogo cart thingies

obesity- solved
pollution - solved
roads - one lane now down need big roads
healthiness - solved

Why are obesity and healthiness issues? Let people do what they want and stop acting like they're victims.

Do you really think at this point that someone thinks cigarettes, or oreos are healthy for them? Do you think we don't know sitting on the couch is less healthy than taking a walk?

[Xero_Daxter]

Here's an idea. Let's bring back horses. Horses can go at a comfortable speed of 17 mph or 27 kmp if you're from Your Rope. The only fuel that require is oats and water.