Electric cars are a disaster

[apathy]

"Hello. I'm an electric car. :( I can't go very fast or very far and if you drive me, people will think you're gay." ~ The Simpsons.

Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? Please don't let them breed and further their stupidity upon the human race.

There's nowhere to charge these stupid EVs (electric vehicles) and they have limited coverage and range. Especially if your mode of transport is a van, needed for work to carry tools for jobs or call-outs.

Oh yeah, they lie and say you'll save money, or the government will give you subsidies and grant if your employers trade in their diesel cars for them. They are so expensive, not even getting into the problems insurers are causing Tesla drivers.


This is like British Railway's Modernisation Plan (for those living in the America - was a total f**king disaster, they got rid of thousands of reliable steam locomotives to replace them with dozens of non-standard diesel and electric engines, most had unproven untested technologies that often broke down 40-60% of the time when allocated to a train).

[Nülliflower]

b b but the environment think abt. the environment and the children who will have to inhabit it think about all the bad gas your children will have to inhale if you don't start drivin' around in the electronic cars today

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

'Merica is a disaster. EV is fine...

[76561198356019466]

Originally posted by apathy:

There's nowhere to charge these stupid EVs (electric vehicles) and they have limited coverage and range. Especially if your mode of transport is a van, needed for work to carry tools for jobs or call-outs.

I live in the middle of nowhere and there are charging stations all over the place.
And I checked, the average range is 400 to 500 miles, which is way more than you'll get on a full tank of gas.

But what do you have to worry about, you aren't the one inheriting this world, and as long as you aren't inconvenienced, who gives a ♥♥♥♥ about future generations. Let them clean up your mess.

[𝓒𝓪𝓻𝓻𝓸𝓽 🥕]

I got chatting with a specialist mechanic working on an electric car outside my house.

Electric cars are a big mess from what I learned.

For example you can't just do a simple tyre change, you have to call in a specialist to configure some sort of chip in the tyre and the car because all the tyres are weighted specially, so a simple tyre change takes hours.

On top of that I was told the most expensive part of an electric car is its battery and they cost £15,000 to replace for average size cars, and the batteries do deteriorate rapidly over time, so electric cars will never last as long as petrol engine cars, you still find working classic cars from the 50s,60s,70s but with electric cars they will never reach that age unless the owner wants to shell out that price for new batteries constantly, own a £30,000 electric car, half its cost is the battery and when you end up replacing it, you might as well just buy a new car and scrap the one you got.

Then comes the fact you can't drive whichever route you want, you need to use the cars computer to pre arrange your driving route to make use of charging points, and if you run out of battery you don't just get towed or use a can of petrol to fill the tank, you have to call a number and have a service vehicle come to you with a temporary charging machine (think like those portable phone charging blocks you can buy, but bigger) and have to pay a huge fee just for enough juice to drive to the next charging port.

Then you have to sit for hours for it to charge, whilst if its a petrol car, you just find a petrol station, fill it up and pay in 10 minutes and be on your way.

So yeah, electric cars suck.

[RealEgg]

I think that it is just Teslas that are awful, there are good EVs. But they need time before viability. I think less emissions would be a good thing.

[SMIFFY]

Originally posted by tiny E:

And I checked, the average range is 400 to 500 miles, which is way more than you'll get on a full tank of gas.

Where did you get that claim from?

[Vox]

Originally posted by apathy:

"Hello. I'm an electric car. :( I can't go very fast or very far and if you drive me, people will think you're gay." ~ The Simpsons.

Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? Please don't let them breed and further their stupidity upon the human race.

There's nowhere to charge these stupid EVs (electric vehicles) and they have limited coverage and range. Especially if your mode of transport is a van, needed for work to carry tools for jobs or call-outs.

Oh yeah, they lie and say you'll save money, or the government will give you subsidies and grant if your employers trade in their diesel cars for them. They are so expensive, not even getting into the problems insurers are causing Tesla drivers.


This is like British Railway's Modernisation Plan (for those living in the America - was a total f**king disaster, they got rid of thousands of reliable steam locomotives to replace them with dozens of non-standard diesel and electric engines, most had unproven untested technologies that often broke down 40-60% of the time when allocated to a train).

It's a cartoon and untested tech on British Rail? wtf you going on about? Steam engines are junk compared to diesel locos.

[metamec]

My neighbour's Tesla doesn't go much more than 300km (about 180 miles) fully charged. I know because he's always complaining about it.

I'm happy to see the technology evolve though. It will be interesting to see how things stand in another ten years.

[Auckes]

As is all "green" bull, especially the cr ap introduced recently. Even the paper straws can cause cancer and are made from dangerous chemical procession. F_k the idiots with their tiny green brain, instead of saving the planet they will destroy us all! Never trust lunatics and never provide to them an ounce of power, to have a say in our lives!

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by tiny E:

Originally posted by apathy:

There's nowhere to charge these stupid EVs (electric vehicles) and they have limited coverage and range. Especially if your mode of transport is a van, needed for work to carry tools for jobs or call-outs.

I live in the middle of nowhere and there are charging stations all over the place.
And I checked, the average range is 400 to 500 miles, which is way more than you'll get on a full tank of gas.

But what do you have to worry about, you aren't the one inheriting this world, and as long as you aren't inconvenienced, who gives a ♥♥♥♥ about future generations. Let them clean up your mess.

My 2014 Silverado with a 26 gallon gas tank can go up to 508 miles (first tried this about 8 years ago on a trip from VA to GA where I lived at the time) before I need to fill it up if I really need to push it. In August, I drove 504 miles from Delaware to NY back to Delaware on one tank of gas due to not wanting to fuel up in Jersey or NY. I would drive from where I lived to Smyrna GA, to South Hill, VA on just 3/4 of a tank of gas, 456 miles, before I would refuel (it really isn't good to run the gas tank below 1/4 of a tank as you do not want to pick up any sediment in the bottom of the tank to clog the fuel filter or fuel injectors). I often made such trips with the bed and cab of my truck loaded up with several hundred pounds of belongings.

Then there is the man who tried to use an electric F-150 to take a family vacation. Family ditches electric truck on drive from Winnipeg to Chicago after charging troubles[www.cbc.ca] and rented a gasoline powered vehicle to finsh with their plans. The range of said truck, 515 kilometers (320 miles), is less than what my gas powered truck can go. Add weight to that electric F-150 and the mileage goes down.

[Mathius]

It's corporations convincing consumers that they're the ones who need to fix the environment.

Multiple sources have pointed out that the carbon footprint to build an electric car is greater than a gas powered vehicle. It puts out way more pollution to make electricity to power the car, and to manufacture it from what I recall.

Not only that, but we don't have any good methods for dealing with the waste from the batteries.

[Z i o ⚡]

Their added weight is also worse for tire wear. Tire wear is actually really bad for the environment. They have microplastics. The weight thing isn't just for electric cars though. A lot of people buy bigger heavier cars instead of lighter more fun economical cars. Going electric makes it worse though, because the weight of any car type increases.

[Liquid Inc]

yeah, if anyone says "electric cars are green" you know they never looked at how lithium is extracted

They also require constant new batteries, which are difficult to recycle, and use electricity from said battery 24/7 just keeping the battery stable in low or high temperatures...

[Hood Knight Lil Sir]

Electric is a combination of the words elec and tric, which basically means 'Shut up!'' in Latin.

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by Liquid Inc:

yeah, if anyone says "electric cars are green" you know they never looked at how lithium is extracted

They also require constant new batteries, which are difficult to recycle, and use electricity from said battery 24/7 just keeping the battery stable in low or high temperatures...

What people really fail to realize is that all sources of energy or electricity has a dirty little secret. If one really wants to combat climate change, they need to get everyone to go back to living in caves and give up all the niceties that they use daily such as smartphones, computers, motor vehicles, air conditioning, refrigerated foods (imagine everyone having to hunt or fish and grow food by hand again), etc.