Should the fourth amendment be abolished?

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

Think about it.

Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution is this:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

[Rio]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ZZZZZ:

why not abolish all amendments? we (ppl from outside of US) wouldnt have to hear ppl arguing over it anymore, its not like we know what they are anyways

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_the_United_States

There you go

[RRW359]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

I do. Because it's about as likely to actually work as banning bread.

I was mostly saying this because i don't even drink myself at all but alright.

I don't either and I still don't think banning it is a good idea.

[Dracoco OwO]

Oprindeligt skrevet af RRW359:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

I was mostly saying this because i don't even drink myself at all but alright.

I don't either and I still don't think banning it is a good idea.

I didn't really cared to think wheter it was a good idea or not, i just really wouldn't mind it if it actually happenned but i can imagine the chaos that would ensue and Chaos is kinda funny to me i guess.

[Ulfrinn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

I do. Because it's about as likely to actually work as banning bread.

I was mostly saying this because i don't even drink myself at all but alright.

As long as something isn't legitimately dangerous to the public, like fentanyl for example, and doesn't affect anyone else but the user, then I don't care what people do. I don't do a single drug, and only recently started drinking lightly over the past couple months. But, given the choice to do so can either be made by free individuals, or some empty suit in congress, I'm going to side with the former.

[RRW359]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

Oprindeligt skrevet af RRW359:

I don't either and I still don't think banning it is a good idea.

I didn't really cared to think wheter it was a good idea or not, i just really wouldn't mind it if it actually happenned but i can imagine the chaos that would ensue and Chaos is kinda funny to me i guess.

A lot of bars would go out of business and they can also serve food and host meetups non-drinkers can sometimes have interest in. Also why get rid of a perfectly good source of tax revenue that's one of the few nobody seems to oppose?

[Dracoco OwO]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

I was mostly saying this because i don't even drink myself at all but alright.

As long as something isn't legitimately dangerous to the public, like fentanyl for example, and doesn't affect anyone else but the user, then I don't care what people do. I don't do a single drug, and only recently started drinking lightly over the past couple months. But, given the choice to do so can either be made by free individuals, or some empty suit in congress, I'm going to side with the former.

I mean you could argue Alcohol can be pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awfull for your body it's also dangerous to be drunk when you drive but it's just unconscious to do so no matter what peoples that are going to do dangerous things will do it no matter the rules, i still think we should at least still consider alcohol is awfull for health if consumed too often and it can ruin your life like many drugs can still.

[Ulfrinn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dracoco OwO:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

As long as something isn't legitimately dangerous to the public, like fentanyl for example, and doesn't affect anyone else but the user, then I don't care what people do. I don't do a single drug, and only recently started drinking lightly over the past couple months. But, given the choice to do so can either be made by free individuals, or some empty suit in congress, I'm going to side with the former.

I mean you could argue Alcohol can be pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awfull for your body it's also dangerous to be drunk when you drive but it's just unconscious to do so no matter what peoples that are going to do dangerous things will do it no matter the rules, i still think we should at least still consider alcohol is awfull for health if consumed too often and it can ruin your life like many drugs can still.

And where does determining what people are or aren't allowed to do based on someone else's perception of what is dangerous end? It can be awful to your body. But so can countless other things. I don't need some politician telling me which is which. Nobody does.

[AD]

Oprindeligt skrevet af a really cool slug:

the fourth amendment to which nation or state's constitution

The country everyone who doesnt mention a country here means because they forget there are people from other countries exists here: The USA

As a non-American I would be very careful to abolish such an amendment, since at least from my superficial understanding of it, it sounds like abolishing it is just stepping away into more authoritarianism (i.e. be at the mercy of the powerful, most likely the government). But I also dont really know what I am talking about, its just the impression I get.

[Lokaror]

Not a chance. Just because our government skirts (and breaks) its own rules doesnt mean we should get rid of them. If anything we need to hold them accountable and to walk the walk if they are going to talk the talk.

[Devsman]

The whole bill of rights should.

1. What if people say something I don't like? Abolish.
2. What if somebody shoots someone? Abolish.
3. What if the troops are really really tired? Abolish.
4. What if they're hiding something? Abolish.
5. See 4.
6. But they broke the law. Abolish.
7. See 6.
8. See 6.
9. ... Wait, does that say what I think it says? Hold on, hold on, HOOOOOLD ON, the whole last 20 years of politics has been COMPLETELY ILLEGAL, what the hell*
10. But what if states do something I don't like? Abolish.

*For real, I haven't read this stuff since like sixth grade, how the hell has ANYTHING discussed in the last twenty years not ended with "ninth amendment, dumbass"?