Basque is overall a definitely endangered language

[Spiderman]

It is vulnerable in Spain, severely endangered in France, overall, definitely endangered

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

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It´s just natural. Languages developed when people went different ways, and the languages disappear, when people are more connected. I except that one day we will speak one language, as everything else is not necessary, it´s an unneeded and counter-productive barrier. And languages/dialects/accents disappear since the days of colonization. I´m actually unsure how many, but a few thousands.

Yeah, definitely, its all natural. Dictatorships, genocide, its all very natural processes. Humans come and humans disapear from the face of the planet, like all other species we are naturally exterminating in the Holocene. I expect we all speak one language, as we naturally aren't very different people, just natural blobs of consumerism. In fact, its all natural that I'm speaking this language I detest, considering how naturally our continent economies are sabboraged by the natural supremacist down North.

Yeah, *those* days of colonization sure were hell.

[Triple G]

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Yeah, definitely, its all natural. Dictatorships, genocide, its all very natural processes. Humans come and humans disapear from the face of the planet, like all other species we are naturally exterminating in the Holocene. I expect we all speak one language, as we naturally aren't very different people, just natural blobs of consumerism. In fact, its all natural that I'm speaking this language I detest, considering how naturally our continent economies are sabboraged by the natural supremacist down North.

Yeah, *those* days of colonization sure were hell.

How much sense does it make to You, when You have a dialect in Your village, then a national language, which You need to go to school in the next town, at which You learn 1-3 more foreign languages, because international relationships? What´s that dialect those 3k people speak worth, when there´s no job to get with Your education - while the other languages are spoken by half of the world´s population? And there it doesn´t matter if it´s called dialect, or accent, or language, as it´s all about a different way to speak, or to name things. Nothing more - nothing less. And i don´t see the loss if there would be only one language as it simplifies things, while it has zero downsides.

That´s besides genocide, or dictatorship, or consumerism, because most people are about convenience, and can make decisions out of more or less objective reasons if there are any.

[Varsik]

They mostly speak spanish anyways right?
I think we can all agree there isnt any point learning it, thus useless language

Its kinda like icelandic, but at least people on iceland speak it...

[Gtkp_]

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dunno why they dont try to go for independance again

The vast majority of Basques don't support it.

[Gtkp_]

Escrito originalmente por Varsik:

They mostly speak spanish anyways right?
I think we can all agree there isnt any point learning it, thus useless language

Its kinda like icelandic, but at least people on iceland speak it...

Usually when a language dies, the national identity does too. It's pretty important to keep those things alive.

[Triple G]

Escrito originalmente por Gtkp_:

Usually when a language dies, the national identity does too. It's pretty important to keep those things alive.

What´s the benefit of it? Or the benefits - because "pretty important". What would be different without a national identification, but instead having a human identification as individual, or part of humanity?

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

Almost 2.9 million people live in the Basque Country, yet the Basque language is spoken by 537,860 people, with 464,000 of those living in Spain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4RMhrlk60E

he sounds to me like maybe assyrian or sumerian or something

[Gtkp_]

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Escrito originalmente por Gtkp_:

Usually when a language dies, the national identity does too. It's pretty important to keep those things alive.

What´s the benefit of it? Or the benefits - because "pretty important". What would be different without a national identification, but instead having a human identification as individual, or part of humanity?

The benefit for the Basques is that they're not assimilated into the general Spanish culture. Spain right now is a pretty diverse country but ever since Franco there's been an effort by some groups to undermine local identities like those of the Catalans, Basques, Galicians and Andalusians.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FoLq20B8VM

oh does that mean vasco de gama might have been basque origin?
vasco -basque?

[trousers]

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Unique language. Check out the relationship between Basque and the Ainu. The Basque speakers once spread all the way to Japan. Now only spoken in north central Spain.

is this post bait for linguists because boy do i want to bite

[Gtkp_]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FoLq20B8VM

oh does that mean vasco de gama might have been basque origin?
vasco -basque?

The Basques had a substantial impact on the development of the Spanish empire in the new world. Surnames like Mendoza and Jimenez (Basque in origin) can be found in many places in Latin America. It was also the Basque trading companies that later heavily engaged in the economic activity in Spanish America. For better or worse though because it contributed to Latin America being quite poor today.

[kbiz]

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It's like one of those languages that predates European languages isn't it? The real OGs of Europe. Okay fellas, pack your things, we moving out!

Guess who else has a unique language? You, Cutie Pie. Finnish is unique. So is Hungarian.

[Apollo702]

Historic preservation is a real issue.

[Gtkp_]

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It's like one of those languages that predates European languages isn't it? The real OGs of Europe. Okay fellas, pack your things, we moving out!

Guess who else has a unique language? You, Cutie Pie. Finnish is unique. So is Hungarian.

Albanian is also quite interesting because it is an isolated Indo European language that predates most other Indo European tongues. The genetics of Albanian people are in large part if not mostly Paleo European which makes many Albanians the descendants of the first Europeans.

[kbiz]

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Escrito originalmente por kbiz:

Unique language. Check out the relationship between Basque and the Ainu. The Basque speakers once spread all the way to Japan. Now only spoken in north central Spain.

is this post bait for linguists because boy do i want to bite

Uh oh. Did I say something wrong? Lots of very similar words in the Basque and Ainu languages.