If Dolphins and Porpoises have human level sapient intelligence......

[Valse Griffyre]

...would they hate and despise each other?

[Tonepoet]

They might have human level intelligence and just not have the means to express it through environmental manipulation and invention. Also, dolphins already seem to hate porpoises, since they kill them on rare occasion.

[GlaceonChireiden]

Because they have intelligence, so yes

Originalmente postado por Tonepoet:

They might have human level intelligence and just not have the means to express it through environmental manipulation and invention. Also, dolphins already seem to hate porpoises, since they kill them on rare occasion.

if they had human intelligence they would be able to just walk out of the pool and use their legs

[kilésengati]

Originalmente postado por Tonepoet:

They might have human level intelligence and just not have the means to express it through environmental manipulation and invention. Also, dolphins already seem to hate porpoises, since they kill them on rare occasion.

How about we add telekinesis to that gedankenspiel?

[kbiz]

They need to be able to manipulate the environment - with hands or something - to achieve human intelligence. But yeah, let's hope they get along.

[Mauserich]

I would not judge the animals according to human categories but I know too little about dolphins and porpoises when they meet. I could imagine that they are food competitors and that dolphins drive away porpoises.

[Valse Griffyre]

Originalmente postado por Mauserich:

I would not judge the animals according to human categories but I know too little about dolphins and porpoises when they meet. I could imagine that they are food competitors and that dolphins drive away porpoises.

I mean, they are different species but they look similar. I imagine there would be a conflict similar to what different ancient human species would have with each other.

[76561198356019466]

Dolphins will attack pretty much anything, including each other.

[Hammer Of Evil]

i was about to say, bull dolphins in the rut will fight and kill eachother.

Originalmente postado por tiny E:

Dolphins attack each other all the time and are notorious for killing their young.

yeah, i dont think i saw it on attenborough but some independent marine biology film, they were trying to film sharks but saw a dolphin battle to the death for some reason. territory? pack supremacy? i cannot remember.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

They already do hate each other. I would read up on some of the screwed up things dolphin due to porpoises.

[Mauserich]

Originalmente postado por Lord Gryph:

Originalmente postado por Mauserich:

I would not judge the animals according to human categories but I know too little about dolphins and porpoises when they meet. I could imagine that they are food competitors and that dolphins drive away porpoises.

I mean, they are different species but they look similar. I imagine there would be a conflict similar to what different ancient human species would have with each other.

As far as I know the dolphin is bigger and heavier and also more temperamental. Could be that they occupy different sea zones.

[kbiz]

Originalmente postado por Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:

They already do hate each other. I would read up on some of the screwed up things dolphin due to porpoises.

Oh?

But they now have human intelligence and will work with each other to upset the hierarchy of the sea. Common interest.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

Originalmente postado por kbiz:

Originalmente postado por Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:

They already do hate each other. I would read up on some of the screwed up things dolphin due to porpoises.

Oh?

But they now have human intelligence and will work with each other to upset the hierarchy of the sea. Common interest.

They don't really have human level intelligence. They're vast intelligence is more like the equivalent of a five or six year old.

And yeah. Dolphins are huge douchebags. Unless you don't count playing water polo with porpoise babies being a douchebag.

[kbiz]

Originalmente postado por Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:

They don't really have human level intelligence. They're vast intelligence is more like the equivalent of a five or six year old.

Yeah, that's true. I was just playing along with the hypothetical.

I think OP was talking about savant intelligence. Like, SUPER SMART! Being five or six ain't gonna get you very far in this world - except for in a Lord of the Flies kinda way. Alas, no underwater cities.

I love dolphins though. Gotta cut them a break. If they're douchebags, that's just animal behavior.

In my world, the dolphins and porpoises would get along.

[Adversary]

Originalmente postado por Lord Gryph:

...would they hate and despise each other?

No, and you don't need to take LSD and live in a half-submerged house with them to find out.