Nintendo sends Valve Dmca notice

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

To block the steam release of dolphin and claims it’s ^^unlawful^^ 😂
Lets see how valve will react to that

[Tiberius]

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Escrito originalmente por Tiberius:

This year, nintendo won a court battle against a rom sharing site and took it down. Nothing abt piracy is legal. Its only a question of morality.

This isn't about a rom sharing website, though, it's about an emulator. Emulators can be used legally.

It's like saying torrents are bad because they can be used for illegal stuff, when they can also be used legally (have seen Linux distros offer torrents as download option, for example).

the discussion abt game preservation thing has nothing to do with dolphin either

and regarding dolphin, they intergrate wii common keys in their app. that sht will get them troubles

[Lambros]

I dont even understand why steam would want emulator on here, as they not gonna sell those games either.

But from a preservation standpoint 100 years from now the copyright will be gone, and video game historians will be playing and recommending, some of the best games of all time, maybe.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

copyright law has to change for software
software is pretty much obsolete after 15 years or are you still using quicken and netscape

[Goose]

i don't know what happened or who's at fault, but i want valve to win, i hate nintendo.

[skOsH♥]

Nintendo dmca'ing Valve over something I just found out about

[Q-T_3.14.exe]

It is what it is.

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

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Escrito originalmente por Raelic:

Second hand or when it's being sold by the people who own the product.

You know that Nintendo gets nothing from the second hand market, so what's the point?

Don’t feed him

[skOsH♥]

I thought Dolphin was the code word for the GameCube as they developed it

So it's an emulator? I mean, someone can just make one with a raspberry pi if they want to, what's stopping Nintendo from stopping people making pcb's

[Tonepoet]

Escrito originalmente por Lemonfed:

The only other legal case we had before is bleem and the only way Sony been able to attack the emulator is by proving it contained codes from the console bios which is under a copyright.

Sony didn't even win the lawsuit from what I been reading from multiple sources including wikipedia's , they just kept it going for long enough until the bleem itself went bankrupt.

We had two cases from Sony. The Bleem case was the second one, and it was over patents and screenshots, not the B.I.O.S. Bleem won, but it was a Pyrrhic victory since the time and money spent fighting the case sunk 'em. They helped established precedent that would render future cases easier, but that wasn't of much direct use to them.

The first case was Sony vs. Connectix[www.gamespot.com], and that was over the B.I.O.S., among other things such as trademark infringement. The decision in Sony v. Connectix was basically that since Connectix reverse engineered the functionality of the B.I.O.S. that no infringement occurred. I think there might've been some commentary on how they might've even been able to use the real B.I.O.S. in the opinion of the court but since that fact was not relevant to the case, it constitutes dictum that does not set binding precedent.

These are both ninth circuit court of appeals cases, so they are not nation-wide binding, but most copyright cases are jurisdiction shopped to the ninth circuit because they are biased towards interpertingt the laws more strictly than other jurisdictions. This is mostly because the ninth circuit covers the entire west coast, most especially including California with Silicon Valley and Hollywood, but also Redmond Washington where Microsoft, Nintendo of America and Valve are based. Plenty of of the tax dollars which help fund the courts are at stake are in the 9th circuit. The fact that the little guy won in both cases is actually somewhat surprising to me.

It is worth noting that Connectix doesn't exist anymore either though. Sony bought 'em out after losing to suppress the Virtual Gamestation emulator they made.

[Under there]

i play mario sunshine on cellphone install in 5 minutes

[Dracoco OwO]

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Yet they didn't block retroarch.

Yeah Nintendo isn't really bright, i guess the range of non-nintendo games you can emulate with it kept them from figuring it was indeed used to emulate nintendo games.

[Dracoco OwO]

Escrito originalmente por d¢:

I thought Dolphin was the code word for the GameCube as they developed it

So it's an emulator? I mean, someone can just make one with a raspberry pi if they want to, what's stopping Nintendo from stopping people making pcb's

It's based on that and Emulate Wii games too.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

The amount of people who don't care for Nintendo's DMCA's Minigun are the funniest people to exist, I for one love people like Failboat on Youtube who uses Emulators to play Kirby and he's done so for years, Nintendo tried to DMCA him and he literally responded with "Can't DMCA me for using an emulator that has none of your code and a legal came I own."

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

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Escrito originalmente por d¢:

I thought Dolphin was the code word for the GameCube as they developed it

So it's an emulator? I mean, someone can just make one with a raspberry pi if they want to, what's stopping Nintendo from stopping people making pcb's

It's based on that and Emulate Wii games too.

Raspberry pi still exists on all PC's (at least windows 10) and is how Window's 10 uses Dial up :P AKA its the Raspberry Dial Up Emulator

[Nightlight]

Apparently, the reason Nintendo can attack the Dolphin emulator is because Dolphin had a hard-coded encryption key which counts as using "copyrighted coded". Apparently, this is an illegal way of developing an emulator. Now, I know nothing about this type of stuff, this is just what I've heard is going on.
Here's a video that mentions it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj9CDNaMTQU&t=50s

He starts talking about it at around 3:00.