steam deck vs nitendo switch

[Rain]

which one is better ?

[Devsman]

Messaggio originale di Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Messaggio originale di Thermal Lance:

Never forget what makes a "console" great is the games. Not the hardware.

BS. That trueism was probably invented by Microsoft after acquiring all of the major brands and financially forcing the hand of other companies in order to invade and dominate the videogame market. Their Cheese-Box is basicly a PC with a better version of the crapware they shove into people's computers.

Wii's playability was amazing! It was heck of fun.
The Switch also brought back a ludic spirit to the living room. Nintendo, although its shortcomings and intellectual property persecutions, is really great at what they do.

This has been true AT LEAST since the SNES defeated the Genesis.

[Electric Cupcake]

Messaggio originale di Plaid:

Messaggio originale di Sir Dookface McFerretballs:

Depends...

Do I have to buy a whole new Steam Deck if the joystick starts drifting?

If that is the case then the SWITCH is better because I only have to buy a new controller and those only cost about $30.

No, you can buy every part for the system. https://www.ifixit.com/Parts/Steam_Deck

er, just about every.

I love that Valve released the 3d printer files for the shell, so you can get it in Atomic Purple like the N64 and GBC.

Transparent colored plastic will never go out of style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojV88oc0Nmg

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Messaggio originale di mikel3113:

You're argument is flawed, so the rest of your comment is null and void as well. Humans can see past 24fps. See any of the links below explaining this or find another source yourself.

https://www.howtogeek.com/888948/how-many-fps-can-the-human-eye-see/

https://vision-boutique.com/how-many-fps-can-the-human-eye-see/

https://www.healthline.com/health/human-eye-fps

Oh, wow, live and learn. Who would of thought little school teachers would teach us false facts. Whats is next, Math is wrong and you *can* take the square root of negative numbers??

Still, most people don't see that much of a difference.

[Valerie]

Steam deck by far

System	Pros	Cons
Steam Deck	• WAY more options for games. • Highly customizable due it using Linux. • Can even run non-steam games like Diablo 4. • Benefits from the COUNTLESS Steam sale deals. • Don't have to pay to use online like you do Switch monthly. • Has a working desk top mode that basically acts like a mini pc/laptop that you can use to browse the web too! • Want to play Switch games/old games? Emulators! New Zelda works on Steam deck!	• Bulkier • Batterly Life • Screen brightness in sunlight • Price • Dock station sold separate • Prone to overheat problems
Switch	• Exclusive Nintendo games • Better screen brightness and colors • Dock Included • Smaller so it's more portable than the Deck. • Better battery life	• ONLY play nintendo games so limited in that regard • Unquestionably weaker than the Steam deck. • Pay for online services • ONLY for games. No web browser option. • Not as durable as Deck

The ONLY downside in my honest opinion is the awful battery life (but when aren't you around a charger though) and the screen in sunlight its pretty hard to see the screen. Maybe if they give us a Steam Deck enhance version it'll fix these issues. The other cons aren't really that big of a deal to me.

Other than those downsides, Deck is just superior by a landslide unless you REALLY want to just play Nintendo games on their intended hardware... Which I really don't care about any Nintendo game that warrants a full blown system aside from Pokemon. Which again, not worth the full cost of the system to me.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Messaggio originale di Shodan 2.0:

Are you actually serious?

There is a clear difference between a 60 Hz and 75 Hz monitor and I can instantly see when a tiny phone has a 90 Hz display right on the home screen with barely anything going on, let alone in games where responsiveness is a really big deal. In games, I easily feel a drop from 60 FPS to 55 FPS (which is not too bad, but I notice it), let alone 47 FPS from your example.

The difference is especially obvious with lower frame rates and refresh rates, even between 24 FPS and 30 FPS. After going from just 100 FPS back to 60 FPS, 60 FPS suddenly feels like an unbearable slideshow, how 30 FPS has always felt compared to that "smooth" 60 FPS.

I don't mean to sound pretentious, I'm not special because I can see this stuff, in fact almost everyone (who plays games) does (so, when you give a phone with a 90 Hz display to an older person who doesn't know or care about technology, they almost definitely won't notice it and it's just a phone anyway, not the most important or apparent thing on a phone anyway) and it makes perfect sense that they do because, again, responsiveness is a really big deal in games.

Anyway, instead of saying such blatant nonsense, why not just go see it for yourself? It's really not hard. Well, assuming you're actually serious, of course, because I still find it hard to believe that someone can seriously say something like this.

lawl, are you??

Were you not accepted into the super league because you brag about your powers any chance you get?
Anyways, I'm sure most artificial lights are strobe lights to you. Reality itself is not much more than one unbearable slide show...

go.
odnight...

[WhineDeer(PartZombie)]

i haven't played on my switch for a long time but i would go for switfch

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Messaggio originale di 🌧️ Rain 🌧:

which one is better ?

I prefer the Steam Deck and I own both. Steam Deck can emulate most Switch games and consoles. Plus, it has a desktop mode so you can use it to watch Netflix, Disney +, and your own media.

[Tonepoet]

The Deck is better specced but the the Nintendo switch has a greater variety of games sold in a physical format, subjecting the games to first sale doctrine, and most of its games should continue to be playable in perpetuity long after the system is discontinued, unlike with Steam, where they force you to update your system to keep up with the client, potentially breaking game compatibility sometime down the line, so it's not really a contest in those regards.

Though I do like claiming free games on promotional discount on P.C., alongside all of the freeware titles that would never see the light of day on the Switch.

[Valerie]

Messaggio originale di Tonepoet:

The Deck is better specced but the the Nintendo switch has a greater variety of games sold in a physical format, subjecting the games to first sale doctrine, and most of its games should continue to be playable in perpetuity long after the system is discontinued, unlike with Steam, where they force you to update your system to keep up with the client, potentially breaking game compatibility down the line, so it's not really a contest in that regard.

So far I've not had any problems with updates breaking game performances in any way yet for my Steam deck.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Messaggio originale di Valerie:

Messaggio originale di Tonepoet:

The Deck is better specced but the the Nintendo switch has a greater variety of games sold in a physical format, subjecting the games to first sale doctrine, and most of its games should continue to be playable in perpetuity long after the system is discontinued, unlike with Steam, where they force you to update your system to keep up with the client, potentially breaking game compatibility down the line, so it's not really a contest in that regard.

So far I've not had any problems with updates breaking game performances in any way yet for my Steam deck.

Yeah, it runs Linux so it different than a Windows device. I could see it being an issue if it was running Windows 8 and Steam stopped supporting that OS.

[Valerie]

Messaggio originale di BlackDragon875:

Messaggio originale di Valerie:

So far I've not had any problems with updates breaking game performances in any way yet for my Steam deck.

Yeah, it runs Linux so it different than a Windows device. I could see it being an issue if it was running Windows 8 and Steam stopped supporting that OS.

Also you can apparently install windows on your deck as well. Not sure how well it works, but it is a thing.

https://reviewed.usatoday.com/laptops/features/how-install-windows-steam-deck

Seems like a chore though

[Tonepoet]

It might not be a problem yet folks but that does not mean it will not be later down the line. The earliest WIndows compatible Touhou games (6-8) have been reportedly been having problems running on modern versions of Windows. I believe they were delisted from Steam in part because of that, and in part because Zun lost the Source code, preventing him from rebuilding them.

Yeah, that's a windows problem and I'm pretty sure the games would work fine through Proton still, but Linux isn't immune from similar issues. Just a few years some of the major Linux distributions, such as Ubuntu, were going to drop support for 32 bit libraries until Valve said they needed those and threatened to cut support. Eventually a compromise was reached to temporarily retain partial 32 bit support for the libraries Valve wanted to keep to give Valve the time it needs to transition. Sure, the Deck didn't exist yet, but the existence of Steam Machines didn't stop Valve from threatening to drop the Linux platform like a hot potato.

Also, once upon a time I remember developers often refused to make 64bit compilations because the 64 bit architecture was backward compatible with 32 bit executables and their game didn't make use of all that much memory.

I'm quite confident my whole back catalogue of switch cartridges will continue to run on a Nintendo Switch 50 or so years down the road. I can't say with the same degree of confidence that my existing backlog of Steam games will continue to run on a Deck for even half that amount of time. Now the future is not written in stone. Maybe it'll never be a problem if we are lucky. Unfortunately, we have to make our purchasing decisions in the here and now, and for now I am more confident in the software compatibility retention of the Nintendo hardware, until Valve offers some way for legacy O.S. users to retain permanent access to their backlog of older games.

[Mega Ultra Chicken]

Messaggio originale di Tonepoet:

It might not be a problem yet folks but that does not mean it will not be later down the line. The earliest WIndows compatible Touhou games (6-8) have been reportedly been having problems running on modern versions of Windows. I believe they were delisted from Steam in part because of that, and in part because Zun lost the Source code, preventing him from rebuilding them.

Yeah, that's a windows problem and I'm pretty sure the games would work fine through Proton still, but Linux isn't immune from similar issues. Just a few years some of the major Linux distributions, such as Ubuntu, were going to drop support for 32 bit libraries until Valve said they needed those and threatened to cut support. Eventually a compromise was reached to temporarily retain partial 32 bit support for the libraries Valve wanted to keep to give Valve the time it needs to transition. Sure, the Deck didn't exist yet, but the existence of Steam Machines didn't stop Valve from threatening to drop the Linux platform like a hot potato.

Also, once upon a time I remember developers often refused to make 64bit compilations because the 64 bit architecture was backward compatible with 32 bit executables and their game didn't make use of all that much memory.

I'm quite confident my whole back catalogue of switch cartridges will continue to run on a Nintendo Switch 50 or so years down the road. I can't say with the same degree of confidence that my existing backlog of Steam games will continue to run on a Deck for even half that amount of time. Now the future is not written in stone. Maybe it'll never be a problem if we are lucky. Unfortunately, we have to make our purchasing decisions in the here and now, and for now I am more confident in the software compatibility retention of the Nintendo hardware, until Valve offers some way for legacy O.S. users to retain permanent access to their backlog of older games.

You could argue that planned obsolescence applies to any handheld device including the Switch. The Switch can still die someday to old age/overuse the same way an OS becomes outdated. I'm sure the OG Steam Deck might stop being able to play games someday, but there will be some workaround. Unlike the ROG Ally, I would say there's a more active community fixing problems on the Deck.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

steam deck is a literal portable handheld laptop

switch sucks overall b/c it's nintendo and have been on a downwards spiral in terms of innovation recently

[Valerie]

Messaggio originale di Introverted Gamer:

Has to be a tie for Asus Rog All, GPD WIN 4, and Aya Neo 2. All these Windows 11 devices, are better than an Steam Deck SteamOS and Nintendo OS.

That thing is like what... 700? Lol