steam deck vs nitendo switch

[Rain]

which one is better ?

[Candyy]

Nguyên văn bởi 🌧️ Rain 🌧:

which one is better ?

Switch without a doubt

The deck is just useless if you alredy have a computer and I highly doubt anyone actually plays computer games outside of their room anyways, like why would want you to play the same games you play on the computer but outside?

At least on the switch ,on Pokémon you can bring your switch to your friend house and trade Pokémon with them, which is quite useful actually, and the switch is lighter to carry v:
Online trading exists but sometimes can be messy...

You can also take out the controller which is nice as well

I even noticed that some of the games on computer are not even well designed to be played on controller , cool you can plug the mouse and keyboard but then what is the point of getting a portable console that is more expensive??

And most importantly if you want to play with your friends online that do have a switch ,you cannot do it with a deck , and not playing splatoon, Pokémon and Mario kart without my friends is missing a lot pretty much... Specially when it comes to Mario kart, that game is boring against the bots...

Yeah, obviously if you do not play any Nintendo/Gamefreak game a switch would be pointless, but why would the deck be not pointless considering all the previous stuff? A normal computer seems a better investment in that scenario v:

[Candyy]

Nguyên văn bởi Harusp3x:

Let's say you could only pick one.

Nintendo Switch is a great handheld system. There are plenty of great games for it, many of which you can't get anywhere else.

Steam Deck is a great handheld PC. You probably already have a large library of games for it, and since it's a PC you'll have no shortage of games for years and years to come. Even when modern gaming surpasses what the Steam Deck can handle even on the lowest settings, countless less demanding games and indies will continue to be playable.

So looking at both systems today, both are good. Steam Deck might be the way to go if you already have a library on Steam. Switch might be the way to go if you just really, really want to play Tears of the Kingdom and other Nintendo exclusives. (Unless your morals just a are a bit looser, in which case you'll still probably want to go Steam Deck for obvious reasons.)

Looking toward the future though things start to unravel a bit for the Switch.

The Nintendo Wii eshop was shut down 13 years after the Wii released.

The 3ds eshop was shut down 13 years after the 3ds released.

The Wii U eshop was shut down 11 years after the Wii U released.

The Nintendo Switch eshop will be shut down...?

Switch shop is still running, but it will shut down. Based on the pattern so far it probably has until 2030. Nintendo will release a new system before then, and all your previous purchases will be useless. They'll re-release other games you bought and you'll be expected to buy them again, just as they've required time and time again.

Meanwhile on PC, of which the Steam Deck is one, you buy your game once and that's it. You own it as long as Valve exists as a company and continues to operate Steam. There will be no "Steam 2" that renders your previous Steam purchases useless. I can still play games I bought on Steam nearly 20 years ago just fine. Hell, I can load up some DOS PC games I bought over 30 years ago on my Steam Deck and play them just fine.

An investment in PC gaming is a long-term one. Consoles are temporary. PC is forever.

Is 2023, almost nobody uses their 3Ds anymore , specially if we have to count the 3Ds shop

I have a DSi and 3DS and I barely used their shops ,they kinda feel pointless with physical copies

[Haruspex]

Nguyên văn bởi 🌧️ Rain 🌧:

i already have pc , i bought the switch btw

Valid.
Steam Deck doesn't open up new experiences, just allows you to play existing PC gaming experiences where you wouldn't otherwise be able to.

If you already have the means to play PC games, and you don't really care about where you can enjoy those games, then the Switch represents the ability to play some games you otherwise wouldn't be able to. Nice choice.

Nguyên văn bởi Candyy ♡:

Is 2023, almost nobody uses their 3Ds anymore , specially if we have to count the 3Ds shop

I have a DSi and 3DS and I barely used their shops ,they kinda feel pointless with physical copies

That's understandable, but if you bought digital copies of some 3ds games and you get an itch to play one, you're SOL unless you repurchase that game for Switch, if it's even available.

I agree that physical extends the playable lifespan of these console games. It's on the way out though. Even today Switch games are released that aren't much more than empty shells that point to where the game should be downloaded. You also won't have access to any updates or patches once those shops get shut down, often leaving you with a crippled and incomplete experience.

The last generation of consoles that were viable to keep physical copies include the PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, and Nintendo DS/i. Everything since then is very reliant on the Internet and servers that get canned once the company decides it wants to move on to greener pastures.

[mikel3113]

Nguyên văn bởi Candyy ♡:

Nguyên văn bởi 🌧️ Rain 🌧:

which one is better ?

Switch without a doubt :csd2smile:

The deck is just useless if you alredy have a computer and I highly doubt anyone actually plays computer games outside of their room anyways, like why would want you to play the same games you play on the computer but outside?

At least on the switch ,on Pokémon you can bring your switch to your friend house and trade Pokémon with them, which is quite useful actually, and the switch is lighter to carry v:
Online trading exists but sometimes can be messy...

You can also take out the controller which is nice as well

I even noticed that some of the games on computer are not even well designed to be played on controller , cool you can plug the mouse and keyboard but then what is the point of getting a portable console that is more expensive??

And most importantly if you want to play with your friends online that do have a switch ,you cannot do it with a deck , and not playing splatoon, Pokémon and Mario kart without my friends is missing a lot pretty much... Specially when it comes to Mario kart, that game is boring against the bots...

Yeah, obviously if you do not play any Nintendo/Gamefreak game a switch would be pointless, but why would the deck be not pointless considering all the previous stuff? A normal computer seems a better investment in that scenario v:

I think just the opposite. I have a pretty decent PC and also have a Steam Deck and Nintendo Switch. I play the Steam Deck significantly more than anything else. Most of the games I want plus portability and ability to pick up and game on the fly. I'm still gaming inside for the most part but mornings out on the deck( porch) with the kids, coffee and my Steam Deck is near perfection. I'm mostly in the kitchen playing while supervising kids to not choke while eating or playing on the couch while some horrifically torturous kids show is on. If you have kids and are a PC gamer the Steam Deck is a no-brainer

Having a detachable controller isn't an issue. I just attach a Bluetooth PS4 controller for using with my TV or if I don't want to use the built-in controller of the steam deck itself. Most of the times I'm using the steam deck controller though. You are correct that some PC games that use mouse, keyboards specifically RTSs that I play just don't play well on the deck with gamepad controls. I save those for playing on my PC. Also have a hotas for simulator games and while those games can be played with a gamepad, I would rather play with a hotas

I don't care about multiplayer games so that point of yours in mute with me. I don't have a single multiplayer game installed on my PC either. I will play some local multiplayer on the Switch playing s
Smash Bros or Mario Cart but that's a rare occasion. I'm usually enjoying single player games.

Steam Deck for me all day over a Switch if I had to have one. Thankfully I can indulge in owning both plus a nice PC and PS4 that gives me most anything I want. Couldn't justify getting a PS5 or an Xbox series x

[Dawido]

Nguyên văn bởi 240p enjoyer:

do you want to play splatoon?
yes - switch
no - deck

Do you want to Play games in resolution other than 720p and 30 FPS?

No - Switch
Yes - Deck

[Mr Jt (Gog is king)]

Why would anyone buy a switch if you can own a deck lol

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Nguyên văn bởi Thermal Lance:

Never forget what makes a "console" great is the games. Not the hardware.

BS. That trueism was probably invented by Microsoft after acquiring all of the major brands and financially forcing the hand of other companies in order to invade and dominate the videogame market. Their Cheese-Box is basicly a PC with a better version of the crapware they shove into people's computers.

Wii's playability was amazing! It was heck of fun.
The Switch also brought back a ludic spirit to the living room. Nintendo, although its shortcomings and intellectual property persecutions, is really great at what they do.

[Adversary]

The only thing that the Switch has going for it is that unlike the PS5 it has games. This is also the only thing the Steam Deck has going for it.

Far as I'm concerned, they're both needless things that no one needs. Just more useless luxury goods for the pile.

[Heitor Villa-Lobos]

Nguyên văn bởi Dewido8:

Nguyên văn bởi 240p enjoyer:

do you want to play splatoon?
yes - switch
no - deck

Do you want to Play games in resolution other than 720p and 30 FPS?

No - Switch
Yes - Deck

Yeah, whats the fascination people have with frames per second? We can't possibly see past 24 frames in a second. People use monitoring software to do benchmarks and comment "see? Its droping waaay below 60fps, to like 47. total trash" when their eyes can't pick up a difference.

If the game doesn't studder, freeze, crash and/or burn, its alright.
If the game does studder, it is terrible.

Switch games are stable. They are bug-free. They just work.

PCs, eigther with GNU or Windows, it always has bugs and crashes. People put up a big talk on how they preffer one OS over the other because they don't want to deal with crashes, but every single OS for every single computer spec will eventually fail with some game. Everyone needs to patch or tweak once in a while.

The Deck, although a console, is much closer to a PC at that. It needs tweaking and optimizing.
Sure, once you get the hang of it you can make 16-bit games run at 8k at 1080 FPS. There may even be an acquired geeky pleasure of tinkering...

Still, if you want games that just work: Switch.

[mikel3113]

Nguyên văn bởi Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Nguyên văn bởi Dewido8:

Do you want to Play games in resolution other than 720p and 30 FPS?

No - Switch
Yes - Deck

Yeah, whats the fascination people have with frames per second? We can't possibly see past 24 frames in a second. People use monitoring software to do benchmarks and comment "see? Its droping waaay below 60fps, to like 47. total trash" when their eyes can't pick up a difference.

If the game doesn't studder, freeze, crash and/or burn, its alright.
If the game does studder, it is terrible.

Switch games are stable. They are bug-free. They just work.

PCs, eigther with GNU or Windows, it always has bugs and crashes. People put up a big talk on how they preffer one OS over the other because they don't want to deal with crashes, but every single OS for every single computer spec will eventually fail with some game. Everyone needs to patch or tweak once in a while.

The Deck, although a console, is much closer to a PC at that. It needs tweaking and optimizing.
Sure, once you get the hang of it you can make 16-bit games run at 8k at 1080 FPS. There may even be an acquired geeky pleasure of tinkering...

Still, if you want games that just work: Switch.

You're argument is flawed, so the rest of your comment is null and void as well. Humans can see past 24fps. See any of the links below explaining this or find another source yourself.

https://www.howtogeek.com/888948/how-many-fps-can-the-human-eye-see/

https://vision-boutique.com/how-many-fps-can-the-human-eye-see/

https://www.healthline.com/health/human-eye-fps

Steam Deck is better too and I'm not a Nintendo hater and own a switch myself, but if I had to choose my Steam Deck is an easy choice

[Shodan]

The Steam Deck is an actual PC in a (superior) handheld form while the Nintendo Switch is a cheap plastic toy that can only play a few overrated games and a few good games, except the Steam Deck would play those good games better and you wouldn't have to rebuy them. The (highly accurate) touchpads and nearly endless customization of controls are awesome. I could go on all night, but you get the idea.

Nguyên văn bởi Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Nguyên văn bởi Dewido8:

Do you want to Play games in resolution other than 720p and 30 FPS?

No - Switch
Yes - Deck

Yeah, whats the fascination people have with frames per second? We can't possibly see past 24 frames in a second. People use monitoring software to do benchmarks and comment "see? Its droping waaay below 60fps, to like 47. total trash" when their eyes can't pick up a difference.

If the game doesn't studder, freeze, crash and/or burn, its alright.
If the game does studder, it is terrible.

Switch games are stable. They are bug-free. They just work.

PCs, eigther with GNU or Windows, it always has bugs and crashes. People put up a big talk on how they preffer one OS over the other because they don't want to deal with crashes, but every single OS for every single computer spec will eventually fail with some game. Everyone needs to patch or tweak once in a while.

The Deck, although a console, is much closer to a PC at that. It needs tweaking and optimizing.
Sure, once you get the hang of it you can make 16-bit games run at 8k at 1080 FPS. There may even be an acquired geeky pleasure of tinkering...

Still, if you want games that just work: Switch.

Are you actually serious?

There is a clear difference between a 60 Hz and 75 Hz monitor and I can instantly see when a tiny phone has a 90 Hz display right on the home screen with barely anything going on, let alone in games where responsiveness is a really big deal. In games, I easily feel a drop from 60 FPS to 55 FPS (which is not too bad, but I notice it), let alone 47 FPS from your example.

The difference is especially obvious with lower frame rates and refresh rates, even between 24 FPS and 30 FPS. After going from just 100 FPS back to 60 FPS, 60 FPS suddenly feels like an unbearable slideshow, how 30 FPS has always felt compared to that "smooth" 60 FPS.

I don't mean to sound pretentious, I'm not special because I can see this stuff, in fact almost everyone (who plays games) does (so, when you give a phone with a 90 Hz display to an older person who doesn't know or care about technology, they almost definitely won't notice it and it's just a phone anyway, not the most important or apparent thing on a phone anyway) and it makes perfect sense that they do because, again, responsiveness is a really big deal in games.

Anyway, instead of saying such blatant nonsense, why not just go see it for yourself? It's really not hard. Well, assuming you're actually serious, of course, because I still find it hard to believe that someone can seriously say something like this.

[Hatsune Miku]

Steam deck

[saranacX]

Don't know which is better but I'll go with the Switch. I have no use for a Steam Deck.

[CinnamonApples]

Nguyên văn bởi aka:

Both are pointless after the age of 10.

im sorry but i cant just like a console because of age and i cant like the steam deck because of age meanwhile the deck is more powerful then my laptop and i like nintendo games

[CinnamonApples]

Nguyên văn bởi Shodan 2.0:

The Steam Deck is an actual PC in a (superior) handheld form while the Nintendo Switch is a cheap plastic toy that can only play a few overrated games and a few good games, except the Steam Deck would play those good games better and you wouldn't have to rebuy them. The (highly accurate) touchpads and nearly endless customization of controls are awesome. I could go on all night, but you get the idea.

Nguyên văn bởi Heitor Villa-Lobos:

Yeah, whats the fascination people have with frames per second? We can't possibly see past 24 frames in a second. People use monitoring software to do benchmarks and comment "see? Its droping waaay below 60fps, to like 47. total trash" when their eyes can't pick up a difference.

If the game doesn't studder, freeze, crash and/or burn, its alright.
If the game does studder, it is terrible.

Switch games are stable. They are bug-free. They just work.

PCs, eigther with GNU or Windows, it always has bugs and crashes. People put up a big talk on how they preffer one OS over the other because they don't want to deal with crashes, but every single OS for every single computer spec will eventually fail with some game. Everyone needs to patch or tweak once in a while.

The Deck, although a console, is much closer to a PC at that. It needs tweaking and optimizing.
Sure, once you get the hang of it you can make 16-bit games run at 8k at 1080 FPS. There may even be an acquired geeky pleasure of tinkering...

Still, if you want games that just work: Switch.

Are you actually serious?

There is a clear difference between a 60 Hz and 75 Hz monitor and I can instantly see when a tiny phone has a 90 Hz display right on the home screen with barely anything going on, let alone in games where responsiveness is a really big deal. In games, I easily feel a drop from 60 FPS to 55 FPS (which is not too bad, but I notice it), let alone 47 FPS from your example.

The difference is especially obvious with lower frame rates and refresh rates, even between 24 FPS and 30 FPS. After going from just 100 FPS back to 60 FPS, 60 FPS suddenly feels like an unbearable slideshow, how 30 FPS has always felt compared to that "smooth" 60 FPS.

I don't mean to sound pretentious, I'm not special because I can see this stuff, in fact almost everyone (who plays games) does (so, when you give a phone with a 90 Hz display to an older person who doesn't know or care about technology, they almost definitely won't notice it and it's just a phone anyway, not the most important or apparent thing on a phone anyway) and it makes perfect sense that they do because, again, responsiveness is a really big deal in games.

Anyway, instead of saying such blatant nonsense, why not just go see it for yourself? It's really not hard. Well, assuming you're actually serious, of course, because I still find it hard to believe that someone can seriously say something like this.

tldr: crybaby says 60 and 75 hz is like 1 and 2000hz and calls 60fps bad bc they are spoiled with a supercomputer