No Game is worth 70 Bucks

[Lemale]

Which is a fact no matter how much you coping.Mostly games aren’t even finished as well these days. Same for Deluxe Editions which are around 120 bucks which is ridiculous. Let me know in the Comments below what you think

[kilésengati]

Obviously, this is not financial advice!

Video game development follows the general investment practices of the rest of the entertainment industry: "Get rich quick or die trying."
They want their investment to amortise as soon as possible to get out of hot waters and then bring in enough to finance the next two releases or more within the initial release period. What makes this even worse: The more expensive a title becomes, the higher the expectations and smaller the profit margins become. And with financing of >$100M and development teams of hundreds or even thousands of people, suddenly, macro-economic factors like inflation and workforce availability come into play. This is an oversimplification, but with a monthly inflation of 10% and a budget of $100M, you are effectively burning $10M every month by not capitalising your investment for re-investment. And this isn't even taking the volatility of hype-cycles in the entertainment industry into account.

Even though most of the distribution cycle is/could be removed due to today's direct-to-consumer marketing possibilities and this one is about indie films (which video games, even when they are not produced by an indie studio, are often produced like), it is an interesting read:

https://web-docs.stern.nyu.edu/glucksman/docs/Lucini2010.pdf

[Apollyon]

No game? That's debatable. Most games aren't, but I can't agree that no game is worth 70 bucks.

[Lemale]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:

Huh. What a shocker. Someone telling me how to spend my money. That I work for. On a hobby that brings me great joy.

It's not like I spent 300 bucks on tickets to a sports game, or $80 on a crappy Jersey. Or 40 bucks a pop for posters of famous sports people, considerably more if a rich person happened to sign them.

Value is only in what you feel something is worth. It doesn't matter what other people think it shouldn't affect your decision. Stop talking to people like they're stupid.

And yeah I spend a lot of money on games. How about $150 game with a fancy controller back when money was real money. And I love steel battalion.

When money was real money huh. This wasn’t well thought

[kbiz]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Here is my card:

And for example, if you would be asking me, would I be prepared to pay 70 bucks for the experience and entertainment for what I got from Mass Effect (original trilogy) I would say, I'm prepared to pay 500 bucks for that.

I've never got as big as story experience (from a game) as I got from that one. Okay, I was horrendously disappointed, when I experienced the original ending (of the saga) and got 😡 angry as hell, but when the devs heard our :emptyfist: rage-yell and , I honestly cried for almost an hour after they made the "true" and finessed ending. The experience still brings the tears to my eyes.

I was on those forums being very vocal about the original sh!tty ending. But I haven't played the new ending. I gotta go back and replay it. Thanks for reminder.

Yes, the price of AAA titles are $70 now. But they're actually down in real-terms when accounting for inflation over the last 20 years. Besides, gaming is a cheap hobby in general - especially when factoring in how fun it can be.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Donut:

Developing games have become much more costly and this reflects in the game prices. Imho it's childish to believe that everything needs to stick to one price ceiling forever just because it has always been like that in the past. Licenses, asset packs, arts, etc. these all need to be purchased by companies in order to make games. And these cost a lot nowadays compared to back in time.

If you don't have the money to afford to buy a higher amount of games, it's on you to step down on your purchases or save up your money for the games you're really looking forward to. Set your priorities. I'd rather have few more costly games which I value more than endless amount of indie crap.

There are other ways to recoup costs from development than to increase the price of each unit. Inflation also effects the audience that buys said games too.

We are not responsible for mismanagement of a product when the costs inflate because of poor decision making either, which seems to be a major problem also.

We've had so many awful buggy games that were being sold for 60+ dollars. So it's clear that the price increase in no way is because of an increase in quality either. Digital market places have increased, cutting out retail or the costs of distribution.

Companies can sell their products at whatever price they wish 70, 90, 120, 3000. But it is just not reasonable to sell something past a certain price.

I expect many of these 70 dollar games to continue to plunge in price after release like 60 dollar games already have in the past. But also probably much steeper discounts much more quickly.

[tmwfte]

Thankfully, it's free.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1241700/There_Is_No_Game_Jam_Edition_2015/

Unless you want to pay for the Wrong Dimension.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1240210/There_Is_No_Game_Wrong_Dimension/

But, yeah, totally worth $70.

[Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lemale:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Ⓥenom Ⓢnake 🐍:

Huh. What a shocker. Someone telling me how to spend my money. That I work for. On a hobby that brings me great joy.

It's not like I spent 300 bucks on tickets to a sports game, or $80 on a crappy Jersey. Or 40 bucks a pop for posters of famous sports people, considerably more if a rich person happened to sign them.

Value is only in what you feel something is worth. It doesn't matter what other people think it shouldn't affect your decision. Stop talking to people like they're stupid.

And yeah I spend a lot of money on games. How about $150 game with a fancy controller back when money was real money. And I love steel battalion.

When money was real money huh. This wasn’t well thought

Sure it was. A value today is worth significantly less than a value when I was younger. It's called inflation. Technically if I were to spend $70 now... Let me see...

That would be $34 and some change.

So it's actually not nearly as bad as you seem to want everyone to think but it still kind of sucks. Unless you're really into the thing you want to buy.

[Moogal™]

I agree with OP, fully.

[TWPanda77]

I will be the judge of that OP.

[GlaceonChireiden]

Correction:

No game is worth $70 in the state it releases in

Now later down the line after a few years OF DLC, and story additions? THAT would probably be worth $70 if it was included day 1.
A game is never worth $70 at launch, but usually gets enough content to be worth it.

[Haruspex]

Was the price of $49.99 better about 20 years ago?

If you take that price and adjust for inflation, it would be equivalent to $89.84 today. This means games are cheaper today than they were back then.

[Irene ❤]

Strongly agree, especially if the game is developed for console first.

Consoles are having high end graphics at more affordable price because developers profit through games. If they port it to PC and charge even higher, what's the point to spend few thousands on hardware and even more on the same game.

[Siluva]

Yes, but somehow people will be people and enjoy getting screwed, go figures.
I'll just do what I always do, wait a year or two and get the GOTY for 5 bucks during sales.

gg me ez win

[Phirestar]

I remember when people were trying to defend the introduction of microtransactions as an alternative to raising the base price of the game. Instead of paying $70 for a game, developers can make up the loss from games not rising in price with inflation by having optional microtransactions instead.

And now here we are with $70 games that also have microtransactions.

[Xero_Daxter]

Wasn't there a game that costed like..... over 1000 dollars?