DARK AND DARKER REMOVED FROM STEAM FOLLOWING DMCA CLAIM

[Dary]

The thread title is quoted from
https://insider-gaming.com/dark-and-darker-removed-steam/
and I am refering what's writen there.

I am a great fun of Steam and Dark and Darker.
I have spent over 2k USD on steam and spent 100 hours on Dark and Darker OBTs.

I have been paying attentions to official announces from Ironmace the developer of Dark and Darker, and I am pretty much convinced that Ironmace has a good will.

So whether the store rejection was reasonable or not, I also need to witness a good will from Valve in order to make myself calm enough to spend more money on Steam.

This decision of Valve really meant a lot for me and makes me sad.
I do not want to see blames on Valve. I just need an official explanation.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Dary님이 먼저 게시:

DARK AND DARKER REMOVED FROM STEAM FOLLOWING DMCA CLAIM

The thread title is quoted from
https://insider-gaming.com/dark-and-darker-removed-steam/
and I am refering what's writen there.

I am a great fun of Steam and Dark and Darker.
I have spent over 2k USD on steam and spent 100 hours on Dark and Darker OBTs.

I have been paying attentions to official announces from Ironmace the developer of Dark and Darker, and I am pretty much convinced that Ironmace has a good will.

So whether the store rejection was reasonable or not, I also need to witness a good will from Valve in order to make myself calm enough to spend more money on Steam.

This decision of Valve really meant a lot for me and makes me sad.
I do not want to see blames on Valve. I just need an official explanation.

A DMCA claim takes the whole thing out of Valve's hands.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Dary님이 먼저 게시:

The thread title is quoted from
https://insider-gaming.com/dark-and-darker-removed-steam/
and I am refering what's writen there.

I am a great fun of Steam and Dark and Darker.
I have spent over 2k USD on steam and spent 100 hours on Dark and Darker OBTs.

I have been paying attentions to official announces from Ironmace the developer of Dark and Darker, and I am pretty much convinced that Ironmace has a good will.

So whether the store rejection was reasonable or not, I also need to witness a good will from Valve in order to make myself calm enough to spend more money on Steam.

This decision of Valve really meant a lot for me and makes me sad.
I do not want to see blames on Valve. I just need an official explanation.

There's nothing "good will" to be done. Valve is required to do so due to Nexon's DMCA.

[fluxtorrent]

Why would anyone blame Valve for following the law?

[Gwarsbane]

Dary님이 먼저 게시:

The thread title is quoted from
https://insider-gaming.com/dark-and-darker-removed-steam/
and I am refering what's writen there.

I am a great fun of Steam and Dark and Darker.
I have spent over 2k USD on steam and spent 100 hours on Dark and Darker OBTs.

I have been paying attentions to official announces from Ironmace the developer of Dark and Darker, and I am pretty much convinced that Ironmace has a good will.

So whether the store rejection was reasonable or not, I also need to witness a good will from Valve in order to make myself calm enough to spend more money on Steam.

This decision of Valve really meant a lot for me and makes me sad.
I do not want to see blames on Valve. I just need an official explanation.

You already have the official explanation, it was removed because of a DMCA claim. Thats as official as you are going to get. They are not going to say anything here, they are not going to message you and tell you anything more.

Legally Valve HAS to remove them when they get a DMCA claim because that is the law. If the claim ends up falling through, the game will be back, but if its legit the game is gone for good. Its up to the lawyers of who ever filed the DMCA to battle it out with the lawyers of the developers/publishers/who ever put it up on Steam.

Valve can't and won't get into the fight.

[Tolkien Book Fan]

fluxtorrent님이 먼저 게시:

Why would anyone blame Valve for following the law?

When have they NOT? Whenever people object to a 'suggestion' by pointing out various illegalities, the reply is always basically "so what?". People who believe 'the customer is always right' propaganda seem to honestly think that customer demands are above the law. Heck, 'stories about bad customers' sites have many stories about customers demanding stores break the laws of physics!

[WhiteKnight]

They could offer game by themself like Myth of Empires did and before that Devotion. They don't have to be on Steam.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

WhiteKnight님이 먼저 게시:

They could offer game by themself like Myth of Empires did and before that Devotion. They don't have to be on Steam.

No. They cannot make sales of the designated content until the DMCA is resolved. It's literally illegal. Hence Ironface's legal team currently working on countering the claim.

[Mad Scientist]

So, what's the Suggestion to Valve?

DMCAs are something they have to deal within a reasonable amount of time, and something that appears to have merit is usually acted upon fairly quickly.

[𝕾𝖜𝖆𝖌]

cSg|mc-Hotsauce님이 먼저 게시:

Dary님이 먼저 게시:

DARK AND DARKER REMOVED FROM STEAM FOLLOWING DMCA CLAIM

The thread title is quoted from
https://insider-gaming.com/dark-and-darker-removed-steam/
and I am refering what's writen there.

I am a great fun of Steam and Dark and Darker.
I have spent over 2k USD on steam and spent 100 hours on Dark and Darker OBTs.

I have been paying attentions to official announces from Ironmace the developer of Dark and Darker, and I am pretty much convinced that Ironmace has a good will.

So whether the store rejection was reasonable or not, I also need to witness a good will from Valve in order to make myself calm enough to spend more money on Steam.

This decision of Valve really meant a lot for me and makes me sad.
I do not want to see blames on Valve. I just need an official explanation.

A DMCA claim takes the whole thing out of Valve's hands.

:qr:

[Sazzouu]

1) It was a free to play game. So what exactly is the pain here?

2) It does not matter a single dime how much you've spent on Steam. If publishers / developers go rogue and Valve has to take action because of the law there is not much money can do.

3) What exactly is your suggestion here? Because this is a suggestion forum which should be used for Steam related suggestions.

[Gwarsbane]

WhiteKnight님이 먼저 게시:

They could offer game by themself like Myth of Empires did and before that Devotion. They don't have to be on Steam.

You don't understand how DMCAs work. You also don't seem to understand EVERY site that they would sell anything connected to this would get a DMCA, even if they were selling it on their own site and they would have to stop selling it or get in even more legal trouble.

While this is going on its illegal for them to sell anything connected to the DMCA.

[Vaulty]

It was DMCA, they couldn't really do anything, lol

[Satoru]

Gwarsbane님이 먼저 게시:

WhiteKnight님이 먼저 게시:

They could offer game by themself like Myth of Empires did and before that Devotion. They don't have to be on Steam.

You don't understand how DMCAs work. You also don't seem to understand EVERY site that they would sell anything connected to this would get a DMCA, even if they were selling it on their own site and they would have to stop selling it or get in even more legal trouble.

While this is going on its illegal for them to sell anything connected to the DMCA.

Note the DMCA only applies per site or store so you could theoretically sell on your own or different store. The issue is more that legally you might end up in a bad situation even if you’re in the right making it harder to win. You can also start triggering treble damages if you lose

[Coke]

I was looking forward to playing that game over break. The studio that made it should have moved to a western country if they knew this was gonna happen. ♥♥♥♥ all of this.

[Cathulhu]

Wouldn't have made a difference.